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The choices that people make are the cause of these mass shootings. Not the guns.
There are millions of people with guns, who have never harmed or want to harm someone because they have a weapon. Either way if they ban guns, thief’s and criminals won’t stop using them. The United States has banned so many things for example some drugs. Even though they’re banned it doesn’t stop people from buying them illegally. While the use of it may go down it will still be used. Same thing with a weapon, you’re just taking away the use of a gun to protect yourself from burglars or people trying to harm you.
If someone can’t defend themselves then they can lose their sense of safety. No one wants to be indefensible.
It’s people not the guns
i'll say it again it's people not the guns that kill people
@chrissykerdock correct ✅
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You could ask it reverse to, if soo many millions of people own guns, how come they aren't going out and doing mass shootings?
Something in society is broken, I see it as two fold at last (probably more.)
When someone is going to end their life and they see a cause or problem, mass shootings are often suicide by cop, but taking out their anger and frustration on what they perceive as the source.
It isn't always that way though, it could be they simply want to hurt others as much as they've been hurt, so others will feel their pain. They do this by attacking the most vulnerable and do the most damage.
This is why mass shooters don't go into nursing homes and shoot everyone... while that would be bad and painful, they get maximum pain from hurting the young.
Which means we need to find out why people have so much pain and help them to not be hurt, better yet... not hurt them in the first place for them to feel the pain.
It is never one simple thing though, no one wakes up one day and decides to go kill a bunch of people. It is a long process, a long trip you could say.
The cancel culture likely has a big part on it.
Someone who has nothing left to lose is the most dangerous, by takings someone's job away for something they said or did. It could potentially be creating a mass shooter a few years or decades down the road.
Imagine someone doing pretty well, losing their job but no one else will hire them or they can only get cruddy jobs and after trying for years they lose everything they have. Their house, their spouse, their kids and others turn against them.
The others don't want to be part of the down fall even if they agreed with whatever it was and will abandon them.
Now they have nothing to lose and combined with no morals and thinking god doesn't exist, they plan, plot and execute a way to get back at society.
It isn't instant though, it takes a very long time.
Society needs to stop cancelling people, stop hurting people and star loving and believing in each other.
Good comments. You are da bomb!
We're sick in the soul from the moment of conception. If the treatment that is the Holy Spirit is absent, we'll at best have to keep putting a Band Aid on a cancer.
Once that fails, a purging becomes necessary for society to survive. The gangreneoof degeneracy must be burned down or cut off.
If not, the pain will fester, and some will grow to believe violence is all that is left.
Excessive mercy to the guilty and vile is cruelty to the innocent. The man who unleashes killer bees on a playground full of preschoolers is more to be reviled than the bees. The man who lets the wolf into the sheep pen, declaring the shepherd a bigot to keep the wolf out, is more to be punished than the wolf.
The night club that facilitates knowingly an exhibitionist chomo near children as a function, while trying to forbid entry to known dissident journalists, is more to face severe charges than the sicko that flashed his dick! And yes, that really happened!
Until we start caring to fight evil, it will grow. Guns are merely tools. And government intervention in healthcare has only made it worse.
Claiming that the ready availability of guns will cause people to kill each other is like claiming the full legality of marijuana in Mexico will cause people to become irredeemable pot-heads.
Now, it will enable those who already have an intention to kill someone the ability to do so more easily, no rational person is going to deny that, and on that basis, the argument that banning would save lives would seem to have some merit- until you remember what happened in 2020 to people who didn't have guns. Missed cancer and heart disease screenings alone over the last three years are going to cause more unnecessary deaths than firearms have in the entire history of the US.
That so many of the people who claim that banning guns will make gun crime decrease are the same people who claim that banning abortion won't decrease the number of abortions should also not be overlooked- this is about politics, not logic.
What's the solution? Logic and compassion. Stop ignoring mental health, put checks in place to prevent guns falling into the hands of lunatics, and SOLVE the damn problems that rampages are caused by, and the problems will stop.
People mistakenly put too much focus on the motive of evil villains.
Evil people do not necessarily need any motive other than evil itself.
Like the Joker in Batman, they simply enjoy being evil and enjoy inflicting harm on others. James Holmes was one of them, and they put him in a padded cell instead of executing him. He premeditated the bombing and distraction of the police and premeditated the mass shooting of the movie theatre, and yet the judge ruled he was "not competent to stand trial".
IF James Holmes was not competent to stand trial, then nobody is i guess, because he was not "lunatic" per se, he wsas deliberately evil and calculating nad even premeditated for months and did 'dry runs' of the mass shooting.
That is not incompetence to stand trial. that is cold blooded premediated mass murder, and the judge let him get away with it without even putting him on Trial. now he gets free medicine free food and free entertainment and free counseling every day on tax payer's dollar...
I wish arresting officers would do the world a favor in the case of mass shooters:
Put a bullet in the heart and another bullet in the brain and call it a day. skip the damn sham trials and pussified judges.
Mass shootings are a complex and multifaceted problem that involves many factors, including mental health, access to guns, violence in the media and culture, school safety, economic and social inequality, among others.
It is difficult to identify a single cause or solution for this problem.
Some argue that one solution to prevent mass shootings could be increased gun control and restrictions on the sale and possession of firearms, especially those weapons that are particularly dangerous or high-calibre.
Others argue that the solution involves preventing violence in culture and society, increasing attention to mental health, and implementing school safety measures.
In addition, it is also important to take into account the need to address the root of the underlying problems that contribute to mass shootings, including economic and social inequality, social exclusion, discrimination, and lack of opportunities for young people and groups.
marginalized.
Ultimately, the prevention of mass shootings is a complex problem that requires a multifaceted response and a commitment to address both the immediate factors and the underlying causes.
Actually neither of these will solve anything. There is a plot by our govt to take our guns. Does anyone know 5g's full capabilities or ever heard of voice to skull technology? It's where they can Target anyone in the world with 5g and through use of computer software speak into your skull, telling you to do whatever they want you to do. This voice isn't the same as someone talking to you, no, this voice is perceived to be your own thoughts, This is so debilitating that many will kill themselves or do exactly as told in order to make it stop. They used it in the guy who invented it and he killed himself because ît was more than he could handle and he was aware they were doing it. What is the one common theme amongst all of these shooters in schools and other places? They all began hearing voices. How can you prove someone is doing this if you were even aware of what was happening. It's pretty much a perfect crime to advance their agenda by getting inside of the public's hearts and minds by attacking the most precious thing on this planet, our children. But don't take my word for it, look it up. It was patented in 1996 and their are many other things they can do with 5g. Oh, and just do happens they installed 5g on to of nearly every school in America during the lockdowns.
Other countries have guns readily available to their citizens too but you hardly if ever hear about mass shootings. So it's not about guns.
America's problem is it has no real good solid identity as a country which not being homogeneous greatly contributes to the mass shootings besides the fact they have confusing vaules as a nation where men can now pretend to be women and women men such fantasy delusional BS and everyone who disagrees is attacked and labeled as a hater.
Lastly, Americans tend to live their lives as isolated individuals, you can live directly by your neighbors for 20 years and not know absolutely nothing about them including their names, not to mention family which often live far away from each other.
Living in a culture where individualism and greed and lack of trust in government is promoted you end up with a society that eventually breaks apart becomes frustrated, angry and lonely individuals began to irrationally begin to collect real or imagined grievances and make society pay for their misery.
The media spreads lies, frequently blocks stories that show reality, tries to encourage racial division (always mentioning race when it is White on Black crime, but avoiding mentioning race when it is Black against White crime which is MUCH more common and statistics prove it), and Democrats, FBI, and the justice department proven to purposely censor conservative ideas and censor truth while they frequently promote lies as true. Also, schools spread lies and encourage racism against Whites and Asians, and they encourage sexism against men. I've seen it myself multiple times IRL.
The basic problem is that far too many idiots have easy access to guns. Now before anyone hits back with the tired and quite frankly asinine point that, "Guns don't kill people, people do", let me just add that a nutcase with a gun can cause far more serious damage in a shorter period of time, and do so more efficiently, than someone with just their bare hands, or even a knife, machete or baseball bat.
Guns were designed for one specific reason alone - to kill people. Sure, a lunatic can use his car to cause death and destruction, but again, someone with a gun is the deadliest creature on this planet by far. If you're "pro-life" then you should be anti-gun.
The truth is one of the following options:
* we need to train and condition people better... and it may be too late for a whole generation, but can start.
* We need to kill off more people, the criminals, so they stop doing crimes
Banning guns when you let criminals go free with guns and knives and machetes, that's not going to work. Forget about jail for many, maybe it helps some. If they don't care, they should just be eliminated and start fresh. It's very hard to train people when they are set in their corrupt ways.
The reason why the problem is framed as "mass shootings" is because then it makes it easy to point the finger at guns. Ideally, though, I think we can all agree that reducing not just mass shootings but all violent crime is the goal, right?
Black people commit the majority of violent crime, especially black people who are involved in gangs. Look at the demographics of the most violent cities in America. Places like Detroit, Baltimore, St. Louis, Gary, etc. They all have one thing in common. (And before you say it's because they're poor, then explain why the violent crime rates among poor whites and Asians are still much lower than those among poor blacks) What must be addressed is black criminality.
Not a US citizen. It is clearly nutters that do mass shootings. It is hard to hate the number of people some mass shooters have killed. I would guess a mass shooter really wants to die in a blaze of infamy. I am trying hard not to offend American sensibilities but there is some logic to a solution. Identify nutters and give them electro-shock therapy to address their issues and lock em up as well or things along that line (maybe not so interventive).
Or make it harder for nutters to get guns.
There doesn't seem that many working solutions other than everybody else wearing body armor.
It's a mental health crisis, plain and simple. We need to bring back mental institutions. Instead of reforming them, we closed them. Now the mentally unhinged are free to integrate into the general population. We also need background checks that include mental illness run-ins with the law. Many mentally unhinged people are able to get away with purchasing "legal" firearms, because many of them don't have criminal records that would come up in background checks, despite having a history of "mental" red flags, which almost never come up in background checks. That needs to change.
Good comments! You are right more than wrong. :)
About 10 to 30 times as many people are saved by guns in self defense than killed in the US, and that includes suicide. Democrats are ridiculous enough to blame Republicans in Congress for mass shootings, but defund police and let violent criminals go on bail and light sentencing. The problem is criminals know the corrupt judicial system will let them go because the corrupt judges feel bad for them. Notice you don’t hear about stabbings or, especially drug deaths that are over double gun deaths. Dems use mass shootings as a political weapon to take away our freedom.
IT ISN’T WORKING.
Gun ownership rates are the highest in decades.
Problem:
Lately I'm starting to side with the conspiracy theorists that many of the nuts doing the mass shootings are getting paid off by the extreme liberals in some way to commit this nonsense. Too many too soon together to be a common occurrence.
Solution:
If you want effective, common sense "gun control" in the United States, then form a commission consisting of the National Rifle Association, The Second Amendment Foundation, Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, Gun Owners of America, National Association for Gun Rights, & the Constitutional Rights PAC, along with one member from each political party (Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Tea Party, etc.) to draft the legislation needed to curtail gun violence and Congress to pass it without changes or amendments.
I don't know, what's the best way to deal with a bully?
Tie everyone's hands behind their back? (Gun laws/ bans) Put the him in counseling that he'll refuse? (Mental health treatment)
No, it's to get him to know that of he hits someone, he's gonna get his ass beat (pull a gun on people, you're gonna get shot)
It's not that hard. Society is just full of pussies that don't understand the concept of fighting back.
Mommy and daddy government can't save you
If society cared for and treated white males the way they do women. Then there would be less mass shootings.
but society doesn’t give a single fuck about male mental health, or well being at all. We have zero parental rights, a family court system bias against us, a media system that blames us for everything, no shelters, clubs, groups, housing, funding, health programs, etc for men only the way they do for women. No protection from female abuse and rape…etc
so white males get tired of being blamed for everything, not having a voice, not having support, being attacked constantly, being treated as disposable, and they snap.
There is no solution. People have been killing other people for ages. Improving the health care system to help detect... and treat... people with mental illnesses might reduce the numbers, but there will still be mass shootings, just hopefully fewer of them.
Having said that, putting some reasonable restrictions on guns (not banning them) and who can own what kinds might also help.
I picked B but it is more complicsted than that. We have a problem with disenfranchised kids. They are raised in single parent households, were stuck in day care since they were 2 weeks old, thay have no religion, they are taught to hste everything and everybody, Social media is also to blame.
You mentioned religion. They don't fear God or what they will face when they die. They don't actually face anything, including law or prison because they are entitled and think they can get away with anything. The sad part is, many of them do, unless charged as adults.
It's a mental health issue and its a crime issue.
Mass murder existed long before guns were ever invented.
Find out what is causing all this mental anguish and work on it.
Find out why people are turning to crime and work on it.
There is no simple, easy, or fast solution. Fixing this crisis is gonna take a long time and a lot of effort.
Well, I don't think it's going to work to ban guns but it seems there must be a way to keep the legal sale of guns away from people who are dangerous. Though no one has figured out a way to keep illegal guns away from dangerous people, (not completely though background checks are helpful), nor have we figured out a way to keep people from becoming dangerous.
You need to put the mafia who control the US government and by extension the world into either a prison or preferably a hole in the ground.
That and stop dosing people up with prozac as a bandaid for a fundamentally defective social structure.
But this is just symptomatic of the first cause.
The only thing you are truly 'free' to be in the US is broke or dead.
Healthcare was ok before Barack screwed it up , so allowing insurance companies to compete against each other in all states and cutting out fraud by hospitals would be the change needed.
We already have gun control out the ass now. The constitution is being violated.
Imma just say the obvious. 1) In America at least there are restrictions to who can legally buy guns 2) black market 3) you can 3d print guns 4) American veterans legally own over 50% of gun worldwide and also most Americans who have guns hope to never have to use them for harm even in self defense. If you want less gun violence stop being mean and start valuing people
If people are the problem then stop giving them guns. It's not rocket science.
Retard
You know there's 100 ways to acquire a gun right? And only two of them are the legal way
Then reduce the ways to one.
Yeah people kill people, a gun by itself doesn't kill people. But a maniac with a gun can cause a lot of damage easily.
I support society having guns because it keeps the government in check. And I think everyone should be allowed to have a gun in their own home for self defense. But guns should have a sort of tracking mechanism where if the gun is out of bounds from a person's home it alerts the authorities and the person is charged, or has his gun's confiscated.
Ban people, because people kill people. Maybe cars because they kill much more people than gun and ladders they are silent killers according to statistics.
Neither of the options from above. We need guns!! The majority of people who shooting up places are trans. I believe, that being trans might be one of the problems. I also believe that the real solution is that mental health checks need to be better. Anyone who believes that they are the opposite gender are bipolar or schizophrenic.
Long term we need to socialize our mental health and fund it out the wazoo. But short term background checks would cut down mass shootings substantially.
People with guns kill people... that's actually what you're forgetting to add.. part of the problem is the people and the other part is the ease in getting assault weapons without ensuring a check is in place that they are not insane.
You're poll is ridiculous. If there was an option for we need to preserve the second amendment but add in some common sense and adequate checks in place to ensure people purchasing an assault rifle aren't crazy.
Your*
Society. is in the midst of a collapse. 60 years ago there were gun clubs in schools. No school shootings. Of course back then criminals were imprisoned, no coddled and let loose back on the streets.
Healthcare with greater focus on mental health might be productive. Mostly I think the parent lies in teachers and parents though.
Mostly I think the [/blame] lies in teachers and parents though.
Guns don't randomly start killing and guns can't make someone want to kill. It's a problem with the mind of the killer, guns have been part of the US since 1776.. now all of a sudden there is crazy people killing? Find out why they are crazy
Obviously you need to do both. "Guns don't kill people; people kill people." That argument is beginning to look fucking tired, especially if you compare shootings in America to shootings in countries that have gun control.
The ''actual'' problem is a deteriorating culture.
The solution: wait for the collapse, and try again?
if they don't get rid of guns then they need to restrict them or have better vetting processes, make sure people with guns have licenses, don't let anyone under 21 have open access to them
Ban democrats from owning guns, then mass shootings would go down 80%
I know right, totally.
I feel if more people had guns they could just kill the mass shooters and call it a day and the places tht are being targeted by the mass shooters need more armed security
Guns are the problem, as there will always be someone crazy out there. So the only way to prevent that is to prevent those people from having easy access to weaponry.
Nuclear weapons' don't kill people, people kill people. Don't you dare tell me it's not my god given right to have a thermonuclear weapon in my garden.
Deal with hazing, ostracism, bullying, abuse. Have enough compassion to understand what drives a person to view the world in such a way they not only want to die but bring others with them when they go out.
Arrest the cabal (communists) and they will stop.
Actually, it's ammo and magazine availability that is the problem. Not guns or people.
healthcare all the way.. But the shit stain leftists only care about stripping us of our rights.
The actual problem is not having enough Jesus in our abortions and we need more mental healthcare for our pastors.
Neither one,
The problem is government is too big and powerful.
Obviously people are the issue here. If humans just simply treated each other better, this type of stuff would happen a lot less. No one is born with the desire to shoot up a school, they have to be pushed to that point.
“Shoot first and ask questions later,” only works in movies.
neither, we need more 2 parent households with stay at home moms and we need to end multiculturalism
Certainly not anything extreme. Just less easy access to guns. More regs on ammo and magazines. And free healthcare, including mental health.
Trigger happy people who are possessed more so nowadays. Evil lurks.
What are these poll options 😂 I’m gonna put ban guns even though that’s not what I believe.
I don’t think ban guns I just think better regulation in place?
It is a culture that excepts violence as a problem solving tool
Yes without the person the gun is not dangerous, but without the gun the person is a lot less dangerous, so we can either ban people, or…..
Mental illnesses and demon inspired violence
We need more lasting two-parent families.
Americans are the problem*
Arrest all the guns
Both sounds good.
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