
Doesn’t anti-Antifa mean you’re pro fascist?


Possibly anti-fascist, no? It is a huge mistake to conflate fascism vs. communism on a simple spectrum in my opinion. At the same time it is definitely wrong for right-wingers to say fascism is a left-wing ideology, but I don't think they're any more wrong than left-wingers who think it's right-wing.
I see it as centrist ideology, criticizing both capitalism and communism and trying to find something in between. So fascism has traits of both capitalism and communism and people want to just see it as a horrible thing to accuse the other side of being. But it's really a centrist ideology, born from a critique of both capitalism and Marxism.
But if we're really accurate, you can't really evaluate these things on one dimension. That's maybe where all the confusion lies. We need at least 2 or possibly 3 dimensions to figure out a person's political views in a semi-accurate way, and I think there is so much needless strife with people evaluating this on a one-dimensional spectrum.
As for me, I'm just anti-radicals. That makes me mostly anti-radfem, anti-fascist, anti-religious fundamentalist, anti-incel, anti-crazy trans activists, anti-MGTOW, anti-MRA, anti-BLM, anti-communist, anti-ancap, etc. Mostly I'm anti-fucked up people who think the world should work the way they want.
That's true if you're a bigot and a retard.
People who see things in such a simplified dichotomy usually miss a lot, like incels who think women either date assholes or "nice guys" like them. They are completely blind to the idea that life is more complicated than that.
You don't have to be a fascist to hate ANTIFA and you don't have to hate black people to hate BLM and you don't have to be misogynist to hate radfem or misandrist to hate MGTOW. This is a very simple concept I find upsetting to explain that we have to be in a world so divided that I have to explain it. Even lots of black people are against BLM.
God or not God is binary, yes, but political ideologies are more comparable to which God is true? So you have more dimensions involved than a binary. A true capitalist isn't at all fascism, since fascism rejects capitalism as much as it rejects communism. There isn't such a clear binary stratification.
* at all fascist, sorry!
If I try to explain in a simple way in my nerdy field, suppose someone says you're either a Mac Lover or Windows Lover. Where are Linux lovers supposed to be in this binary dichotomy?
Cheers! Well, I just don't like ANTIFA types of people. I don't think we have a big fascism problem unless they're ANTIFA people in a very different country. It's a matter of priorities as I see it.
Also apologies for impatient insult earlier. I find nothing little general topics more upsetting than political climate these days. I'm the opposite of an activist type. I just want us to get along, maybe have some beers, and chill out!
Not necessarily. Antifa got its start in the Weimar republic they were known as the red shirts (the socialist being the brown shirt the ones we think were fascist there was only one fascist state, and I was Italy). The anti-fascist, a. k. a. antifa. Where the communist the right did not exist in Weimar republic it was only the left, or at least as far as American standards go. So being an anti-fascist. Antifa Means you’re a communist from the original meaning. I’m against Marxism Socialism, communism, critical race theory, transgenderism, feminism, all drive from marxist ideology. I’m pro republic if you can keep it.
It started in Germany in the 1920s the Spanish civil war wasn’t until the 1930s. Unfortunately the meaning of fascism has been lost where there was an ideology and a fascist manifesto (which I wish I could read) I can find a communist manifesto, but not the fascist one. (Historian political science philosophy and religion are my favorite subjects because I feel like they’re all connected so I think it’s important to you know even dictatorial ideology and maybe I am too quick to jump to this is a Authoritarian myself).
But to quote George Orwell. “The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies "something not desirable"... In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one meaning.”
Have the "liberals" become the modern day fascists? https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism
@lightbulb27 kinda but there more communist.
Nah. I want them both crushed and minced to a red pulp
Nope. I'm not for antifa nor am I for fascism.
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Antifa are essentially useful idiots. Used by the National Lawyers Guild to push their corrupt ideals.
The National Lawyers Guild hates America, they’re Communist and their goal is the suppression of conservatives or anyone who doesn’t agree with them.
In 2020 they declared;
”The United States government is based on and dedicated to preserving white supremacy, hetero-patriarchy and imperialism… US uses its various government agencies to implement its policies and crush political resistance.”
They have over 100 chapters at law schools in the USA and faculty members indoctrinating young adults into Marxism.
Thats you, the useful idiots. Congrats 👍
In the long game however you can only poke the eagle so many times before you get the claws. In time these aforementioned parties will absolutely be crushed.
No because Antifa act like fascists.
They literally are copying Hitler’s Brown Shirts from the 1920s.
Any normal person should see them for terrorist organization they they are.. fortunately they are just a bunch of soy filled children having a huge temper tantrum larping as freedom fighters otherwise they would be a bigger threat..
That’s the dumbest statement I’ve heard. But nice try. Most productive are the highest educated, which usually means Libs.
Meanwhile your side can’t get over this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOkD0vTwcJM
Lol your going to talk about education but don't know the Nazi party was the National socialist German workers party? But I'm sure you know all 368 genders right?
Everything that the Nazi stood for antifa and extreme lefties follow to a T. Just replace Jews for "cis white male" and you have a perfect fit..
Nobody protested drag shows until you wanted to sexually dance in front of small children
(Slaps face) Go back to third grade history and ask teacher about right wing socialism.
en.wikipedia.org/.../Bourgeois_socialism
socialism is been adopted by the left, right now.. Antifa is a Marxist organization the hammer and sickle is a socialist/communist symbol.
Nazi was a socialist organization Antifa does everything the Nazi where doing look up the nazi brown shirts thats exactly Antifa
The left embraces socialistic and Marxism (Nazi) ideology
The Right does not, the right believes in capitalisms and the free market.
You can not deny this. in today right now the left are the Nazis
the argument was about the far left Antifa, did you already forget that this was your question about Antifa? lol my god man get it together
here this video sums up punching Nazi pretty well..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He8xMFgeCC0
Typical reply when you can't debate. I point out facts and this is the best you can resort to? not surprising. I destroyed your entire question in the first post and you have been floundering ever sense.. So yeah its probably best that "your done" we both know you can't debate when someone puts fact in front of you.. by by
I have interpreted AntiFA, as meaning "anti First Amendment". They act a lot like the Sturm Abteilung, (German SA). For AR15 owners, they are a Target-Rich Environment. Since everybody uses acronyms nowadays, they are a Tarichen.
no, means ya don't like what you see in antifa. people showing up in masks, bullying people they don't agree with and causing destruction, doesn't agree with a lot of people.
There actually is (or was) a group called like that in Germany. And yes, they were Neo-Nazi activists.
Antifa is a fascist organization. Instead of brown shirts they wear black ones. .
Not sure what’s Antifa, but I’m positive there are people who are against both Fascism and Antifa, comrade!
Being against a terrorist organization is natural.
Yeah because the media defends antifa (saying that they are peaceful or "just an idea") despite not even trying to hide the terrorism they do to random people and the police themselves. These cops are already on thin ice with the media because of BLM so they would rather arrest the people the mob targets than deal with the mob themselves.
Aren't you an educated man? You should know better.
Keep calling everyone a fascist and eventually people will stop giving a fuck. Yeah im a fascist what are you going to do about it
Possibly, although I know people who are anti-both
everyone is a fascist you goddamn feminazi!
It means that if you’ve got a brain defect.
From the moron who claims if you’re against antifa you’re a fascist. Lol.
Yes, it does to you because you are an idiot.
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