What do you think of progressive states allowing gender surgery on minor children without parents permission?

[Pterodon]

[Anonymous]

Sickening. How you stop it is that in a few years when these kids grow up and realise they are not the gender they thought they'd be, they can't have kids, the surgery is irreversible, the hormones have messed them up and they've massive clinical depression that all those involved in green lighting this from the doctors to the psychologists to the hospital, the city, the state and anyone else gets sued for millions of dollars for ruining these children's lives.

[Pterodon]

I agree

[Opinion Owner]

All that women stuff is fine until they come for your paycheck

[Sixgunsound]

Let them cut the bits off of and sterilize their future generations. Less leftards sticking their hands out for welfare. They won't be smiling so widely when even 20% of their tax base is sterile for life before reproducing.

[Sixgunsound]

Thanks for MHO

[Cubus]

Even left wing Western Europe is outlawing it. So imagine how extreme this is.

[Cubus]

Thank you for Most Helpful

[NaultD]

Being a parent dosen't magically make you a better person. A lot of states even conservative states historically recognize that and give attorney to children. Kids do get streptococcus or strep throat that they will die of but parents don't believe in shots. The state won't let you die if you can get to a doctor.

Happens more with anti vaccine teenagers that want the vaccine. If we are consistent with this logic why not gender medical care?

[Pterodon]

You trust Biden’s government? You need to be institutionalized for your own safety if you agree with biden

[NaultD]

It's YOUR doctor inside the private healthcare sector. Where does Biden even matter on this question?

Anyone having concerns on a medical care issue go to a doctor and get the guidance on the matter, thats it.

[Pterodon]

It’s up to parents period

[NaultD]

Your parents are flat earthers and don't believe in medicine of any kind. This is why the law exists.

[Pterodon]

Remember that idiot Virginia governor that said he didn’t think parents should have any say over their child’s education? He’s gone. Parents are going to get a Republican in the White House. These minors can’t vote, serve in the military, own guns, vote, buy alcohol, drive but you think they’re mature enough to make permanent alterations to their bodies without their parents say? You’re insane if you think that

[Pterodon]

Nope that’s a very minor few not the majority. Look what your government did to my kid’s education during Covid and it’s your party that claims to follow science. Well you didn’t on that one. The science was it was safe for kids to be in school

[NaultD]

It's a question of child medical emancipation and states have individual rights on the matter most states have 15 of age on medical matters.

[Pterodon]

Again if you you think a child is mature enough to make permanent body altering surgery without their parents permission you’re insane and need to be institutionalized and heavily medicated. That age can’t drive, vote, own weapons, buy alcohol or tobacco, work, join the military, or have sex with an adult

[NaultD]

It's not me It's the entire united states of America government by the people for the people that created laws in every state for the last 100 years giving 15 year olds agency on medical care.

It's only now with trans rights issues in the air do we compromise our rights. For a political genocide of Americans no less.

[Pterodon]

Not in my state

[NaultD]

Google your state with "child medical emancipation" and hit back with me.

[Pterodon]

18 in my state told ya

[Pterodon]

You’re the one that votes in the lawmakers so shame on you for voting in the ones with insane beliefs

[Pterodon]

That makes you insane

[Pterodon]

You are what you vote

[NaultD]

Stop being petty and be an adult. We created those laws for a reason and a genocide on trans is not good enough reason to take away those laws.

[Pterodon]

Accept responsibility and stop trying to pass the buck like biden. You voted the insane in. That makes you as insane if you agree with it. The majority in my state doesn’t agree with you. It’s not 15 in my state. It’s 18

[NaultD]

What state are you from?

[Pterodon]

Oklahoma

[Pterodon]

www.findlaw.com/.../oklahoma-legal-ages-laws.html

[Pterodon]

Told ya

[NaultD]

Okl. Stat. §63-2602

Any minor who is separated from his parents or legal guardian for whatever reason and is not supported by his parents or guardian may consent to have services provided by health professionals.

"My parents wants me to die being trans can you help me out doc?"

That's more liberal then most states.

[Pterodon]

Yeah? You think a judge is going to see things a liberal way in my state? Guess again.

[Pterodon]

Never happen. Remember that poor bodega owner in NYC? Never happen here. He would’ve had a parade hailing him as a hero here. Understand?

[NaultD]

Why need a judges or a parade?

Its just a normal person going to a doctor. It's happening every working day of the week Monday to Friday like any other day. It has been for decades without you noticing a thing. Why care know?

[Pterodon]

In my state if you’re under 18 you must go in front of a judge and prove you deserve emancipation. Have fun with that

[Pterodon]

If you think a 15 year old deserves emancipation just to go under the knife for permanent body changing surgery then you are insane and need to be institutionalized and heavily medicated and undergo routine shock therapy treatments

[NaultD]

Medical emancipation is different. It's more in line with Confidentiality Of Medical Information Act (CMIA).

[Pterodon]

Again try and get a judge to agree with a 15 year old in my state

[Pterodon]

I dare you. I welcome the challenge

[Pterodon]

A 15 year old wanting their dick cut off or sewn on isn’t medical stupid.

[NaultD]

It has nothing to do with judges. A 15 year old can go to a doctor in Oklahoma say their parents are retarded and get healthcare for any reason including hormone blockers and 18 get surgerys. That is how that process works out.

[Pterodon]

Guess again. You have to go in front of a judge

[Pterodon]

Not only that but Drs have the right to refuse treatment. Their fist oath is “first do no harm”

[Jaximus-Lion]

My opinion will be super brutal mean about this, sooooo! PASS 🖐️

[Andres77]

Sickening, maddening, depressing, child abuse. Shameful

[Anonymous]

I think that's crazy af

[Pterodon]

Washington, Oregon and Montana allow it

[Opinion Owner]

Smh again crazy af

[Anonymous]

Disgusting progressive bullshit.

[gorydetails]

It is fascism.