Do Republicans really want to ban all books?

[BarryLiverstone]

Was watching MSNBC tonight and several people said the Biden will run on a strategy of freedom. And that the right wants to ban books and push religion onto the country. Are these facts?

[NamerOfStars]

Um, the only people who want to ban all books are the... okay, I can't remember the sect, but there WAS a group of Christians who thought that it was morally wrong to learn to read.

I have heard tell of Republican groups trying to get certain books (mostly related to sexuality) removed from classrooms or school libraries, but iffy as it is, that's hardly the same thing as banning it outright (which wouldn't stand up under first Amendment pressure anyway; the days of Tropic of Cancer-style bullshit are long over).

The real action in this area is coming from the left these days; the pressure to censor, if not ban outright, the works of Dr. Seuss, Roald Dahl, and even the Harry Potter books (in order of increasing stupidity), seems to be rising; I can only assume somebody thought there was a lack of idiocy in modern politics and decided to ramp up production to compensate.

More specifically about Biden, the man only wants "freedom" in the sense of "being protected from Constitutional checks on governmental authority". The man's war on due process alone should've landed him on trial for treason a decade ago.

[HippieVeganJewslim]

There was a time, when (a group of) Catholics wanted to burn most books, as they held the notion that ye olde Bible is/was the only true book. We have the human right to enjoy arts and sciences, and books (almost) always are both.

[NamerOfStars]

@HippieVeganJewslim You mean the prohibited books index? That was just what THEY weren't allowed to read.

[HippieVeganJewslim]

My mum told me. They weren’t the only ones who wanted to destroy knowledge. This is the first time I’m hearing about the prohibited books index.

[NamerOfStars]

@HippieVeganJewslim Well, it's certainly possible that there's some splinter group I'm unaware of, but that one your mother mentioned was probably as legitimate as the claims that the Caliph Omar burned the library of Alexandria.

[HippieVeganJewslim]

Not sure about Xalif Umar and burning of the library, but there was more than one occurrence, I daresay, not necessarily Catholics, but definitely some religious fanatics played some parts.

[NamerOfStars]

@HippieVeganJewslim The whole library thing was just an attempt to make Muslims look bad; the primary burning had taken place centuries earlier (and was caused by Julius Caesar, of all people).

[monorprise]

Not wanting to spend tax payer dollars and abuse public authority to force kids to read certain books is a far cry from banning a book.

Personalty I am in favor of abolishing public schools all together and leaving the people to choose what form of education they deem best to spend their hard earned money on for their children.

[HippieVeganJewslim]

That’s mad. Gaivs Ivlivs lived before Christianity, and definitely Islam, was a thing, so some other people are to blame destroying knowledge. Could tell he was a bastard, but really burn books?

[Avicenna]

Someone would have to be pretty dumb or deliberately obtuse to want to believe that.

Biden running on "freedom"? Now that's more propaganda coming from a government and its state-controlled media which are heavily invested in illegal censorship, Orwellian "mis/disinformation" boards and illegal vaccine mandates.

The kinds of books that generally get removed from public school libraries are ones that are not age appropriate. They have sexual or violent content. One book recently removed in my local school district was a woman's account of being raped while she was in college. Not exactly something you want eight-year-olds to read.

[BarryLiverstone]

Yes I’m listening to what our president is running on in 2024 and one of the things is he wants to defend freedoms (no book banning and reproductive rights) in the USA. Seems so far the slogan is to “finish the job”. So both Biden and Trump ( religious freedom and freedom of speech) are running on freedoms and rights so far as part of their agenda.

Do you believe when they use the word freedom they mean the same thing?

[Avicenna]

Well, obviously it means different things to different people. But I haven't seen any Democrats condemn calls for rewriting classic books that used language we wouldn't use today (like some of Mark Twain's books). How do you expect to understand context, especially historical context, if you rewrite a book?

It's interesting that Biden is talking about those issues rather than economic ones.

[BarryLiverstone]

She is condemning rewrites:

twitter.com/.../1627066110209298432

[Avicenna]

That's great, but who is she? Clearly she isn't a Democratic member of the Congress or an administration official.

[Avicenna]

So she's head of a non-profit focused on free speech

[BarryLiverstone]

Yes she’s a democrat

[Avicenna]

Wow, you found ONE honest one, who isn't in government. Unsurprisingly, she's descended from Jews who fled Nazi Germany.

[BarryLiverstone]

What does her being Jewish matter?

[Avicenna]

Her parents escaped Nazi Germany. Nazi Germany was notorious for its "book burning" censorship and its suppression of what it termed "Jewish physics" (today's analog would be hardcore leftists railing about "whiteness" or being "white adjacent").

[monorprise]

If Joe Biden believed in freedom he:
A) Wouldn't be spying on and persecuting his political enemies.
B) Nor would he have doubled the size of the IRS with highly intrusive rules tracking everyone's bank activities.
C) Nor would he declare his political enemies as enemies of the state Remember this speech?:Include a caption for your image…

D) Actively worked with and encourage tech companies to censor any idea or person they don't like.

I'm not sure we have had very many presidents in American history who have been less in-favor of freedom.
As for his claims of state level laws against abortion (ending anther person's life), and banning books from being bought by and taught in State Schools. Both are examples of our freedom to live, vote how our money is spent with our ballots and our feet.

[Anonymous]

MSNBC is left leaning, meaning they will say anything to their audience to make them think the right is bad. The left is the ones basically taking jobs away from coal miners as they think power plants are hurting the environment, which is false as the clean air act. Don’t test me on this subject because I will tell you this now you will lose. But the same goes for the right side. Fox would do the same thing to the left side. I’ve never heard that republicans want to ban books. That is a bunch of shit so that basically tells you that you can’t trust anything on the internet, which you shouldn’t anyways.

[Anonymous]

There is a two part plan to ban books from public libraries with LGBTQ content and to regulate speech in the classroom, namely discussions on race and sexuality. It’s a way to use force of government to control thought. Of course all of this is rightfully being challenged on first amendment grounds. If they get away with this garbage, you can bet more draconian restrictions will follow. You have to question the motives of anyone who makes information the enemy.

[BarryLiverstone]

Hopefully we as citizens can vote for freedoms that are written in our constitution and be active to defend our democracy against those who want to change and defeat the ideals we were founded on.

[Lliam]

But schools aren't controlling thought?

[Grond21]

It's so weird how they want to force their sexual deviancy on children. It's almost like they're pedophiles or something.

[Opinion Owner]

@Lliam Sure they do. They shape thought through the curriculums they teach. However, government is prohibited from regulating speech by the constitution….. and for good reason. If you disagree with what is taught in school, you work through your local school board. You don’t use force of government to ban speech or books. That’s about as un-American as it gets.

[Count_de_Monte_Volo]

Right now it’s the lgbtq that are controlling thought and “making information the enemy.” Both sides are manipulating the public.

[Lliam]

School boards are paid big money to teach certain curricula. The government absolutely influences what is taught in schools. Money is withheld if the schools don't comply. Right now, the government is pushing LGBT and "critical race theory".

Think about it. It's not coincidental that so many schools are suddenly now "woke". It's not because parents are demanding it.

Government has always had influence over what is taught in schools.

[OlderAndWiser]

MSNBC is scarcely known as an arbiter of unbiased facts.

[Summeroflove]

No LMAO it’s not

[Cathy7734]

I don't believe anything that MSNBC says.

[Lliam]

I don't think so at all. From what I've heard, they only want to ban classroom books for children that push LGBTQ sexuality.

On the other hand, I've heard that Democrats want to ban, abridge or rewrite classic books like Huckleberry Finn and Gone With the Wind that don't conform with current ideas on race.

Biden (or more like his publicity people) is a lying, manipulating sack of shit. And mainstream media is complicit in giving credibility to his nonsense by not questioning it at all. Journalism isn't allowed in msm.

[BarryLiverstone]

To be fair all politicians lie. Unfortunately seems like the right are accusing the left of taking away freedoms and the left is accusing the right.

[Lliam]

@BarryLiverstone. That's true.

[monorprise]

No republican in office wants to ban any book. They simply dont want to uses public tax dollars and legal authority to buy and teach select books rather than others.

Its a shame democrats don't feel as strongly about free speech or the would be spending less time trying to get their tech tyrants to censor, de-platform, and silence any book, or idea they dont agree with. Their inclination to project upon their political enemies is soo consistent as to be a reasonably reliable indicator of what they themselfs have been doing.

Not that we didn't long know they were very pro-censorship for years given how open they have been about it.

[Lliam]

@monorprise. With Biden's commercial accusing Republicans of banning books, the Democrat's are following a classic strategy. "Accuse the other side of that which you are guilty." is famous quote attributed to Joseph Goebbels

[monorprise]

@BarryLiverstone @Lliam
Joe Biden is well beyond lying when it comes to his attitude towards 'freedom', this is the same guy who spent much of the last several years encouraging the censoring and suppressing of what he claims was "disinformation" on everything from what his political enemies said to COVID.

Then he want to claim he did a 180 over what? What a few State & local goverment did to protect what they saw as life and control what their own schools do on their behalf?

[strateguy632]

hahaha sorry for laughing but both my parents are r. n. c. and encouraging library. not ban books even evolution. even pope said evolution is not conflict. ancient Christians did burn books and catholic inquisition but ever since 1700s less harmful.

also texas wants new textbooks that are "censored if scientists updated outdated stuff." that is probly what msnbc exagerated for sensation due to low ratings.

also biden dnc seems more "brave" if he has an enemy even fake to battle.

[Leapfrog00]

They overturned the Roe Vs Wade bill, so after that, anything is possible! These Republicans are crashing the economy, always wanting to cut taxes. Without books, there would be no education, and education is key to a good future for our children. We can't afford any more republicans in presidential office right now. Don't believe me? If another Republican gets elected next, remember me saying this when your whole paycheck is putting gas in your car, lol.

Has anyone seen this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn5wHOlVxJo

This is who we have running our country. Drug addicts, thieves, wife beaters, and alcoholics. Sometimes I think kindergarteners could be better politicians than what we have now.

[monorprise]

@Leapfrog00
There was never any such thing as a "Roe Vs Wade bill" and that in fact was the point. No-one ever voted on it!

"Roe Vs. Wade" was a lawless Federal court edict in 1973 issued by 7 un-elected and unaccountable Federal politicians in black robes. The edict presupposed there existed a very complex unwritten systems of legal requirements in the Federal Constitution heretofore never before known or enforced in the prior 186 years.

An unwritten requirement soo complex and unknown as to put most state laws enforced in that 186 years at odds with the 'law' they supposedly ratified and empowered.

Roe v. Wade just like every similar judicial edict is the act of an arbitrary dictator issuing degrees on a case by case basis.

Republicans like Democrats had no say in the matter of Roe vs. Wade, nobody did ever.

[Leapfrog00]

@monorprise I thought it was part of the "Woman's Health Protection Act". Hmm, who knew, lol.

[monorprise]

@Leapfrog00 Who knew? They don't typically name put v. s. in a act of congress.

As for the act Proposed by the house "Woman's Health Protection Act" This is no more constitutional than the federal edict given the compete absence of power in the Federal goverment on almost any domestic issue including but not limited to abortion.

Abortion just like every other kind of murder in our federal constitutional republic is a State issue, As it has been for 200+ years, unless it happens in a Federal district or territory. The only place where the Federal goverment enjoys state like powers.

[MysticDevice]

Biden campaigning for freedom? How funny considering he dedicated his term to violating 3 Constitutional Amendments. All while shoveling billions of dollars in taxpayer money and equipment into the hands of the taliban.

And no, republicans are not trying to ban all books nor is the party pushing for forced religion. Yes, few rightwingers are like that but not the part as a whole.

Just like a few leftwingers are actually communist but not the party as a whole.

But seriously, think about that for a second. Ban all books? There is no logistically feasable way to pull that off even if they wanted to. Considering how many physical books there actually are. Besides, banning books is in violation of the 1st Amendment. Of the same constitution that republicans hold so dearly.

[ImalwaysrightOK]

Your first mistake was watching MSNBC propaganda and thinking you'd find anything except leftist conspiracy theories on that channel. Secondly, no, it's completely untrue. What republicans are doing is keeping pornographic material out of classrooms and school libraries.

[BarryLiverstone]

What should I watch to find unbiased news?

[ImalwaysrightOK]

I don't think that exists, but definitely not any mainstream cable. Try international outlets.

[BarryLiverstone]

So the BBC

[ImalwaysrightOK]

Definitely more credible than American media.

[Ptrmbrs88]

The BBC? No, not that either. Skip the mainstream news outlets altogether.

[Cathy7734]

Conservatives want to keep pornography out of school. They don't want to ban books. MSNBC is a far-left propaganda tool.

[exitseven]

Biden repeats the lie that Republicans are banning books. They have not banned one single book, unlike the left who has banned a couple of Dr Seuss books. Republicans are against using public funds to buy books of a sexual nature for school libraries. There is a big difference. Biden needs to start telling the truth or his nose will grow.

[BarryLiverstone]

This wasn’t coming from the president. This was from employees on MSNBC.

[exitseven]

Biden just announced his run for the White House. He mentions that Republicans are banning books.

[BarryLiverstone]

Here in Florida I know that some books are being banned. So at least that is a fact. However I hope not all books are banned

[Cathy7734]

Name some of the books that are being banned in FL?

[BarryLiverstone]

A Court of Frost and Starlight by Sarah J. Maas
A Court of Mist and Fury by Sarah J. Maas
A Court of Wings and Ruin by Sarah J. Maas
Ace of Spades by Faridah Àbíké-Íyímídé
All Boys Aren't Blue by George M. Johnson
All the Things We Do in the Dark by Saundra Mitchell
Allegedly by Tiffany D. Jackson
Almost Perfect by Brian Katcher
And Tango Makes Three by Justin Richardson
Angus, Thongs, and Full-Frontal Snogging by Louise Rennison
Autoboyography by Christina Lauren
Beartown by Fredrik Backman
Beautiful by Amy Reed
Being Jazz: My Life as a (Transgender) Teen by Jazz Jennings
Beloved by Toni Morrison
Better Nate Than Ever by Tim Federle
Beyond Magenta: Transgender Teens Speak Out by Susan Kuklin
Black Brother, Black Brother Parker by Jewell Rhodes
Black Girl Unlimited: the Remarkable Story of a Teenage Wizard by Echo Brown
Born Ready: the True Story of a Boy Named Penelope by Jodie Patterson
Boy Girl Boy by Ron Koertge
Boy Toy by Barry Lyga
Boy2Girl by Terence Blacker
Breathless by Jennifer Niven
Bumped by Megan McCafferty
Burned (EH) by Ellen Hopkins

[BarryLiverstone]

Melissa (George) by Alex Gino
Morris Micklewhite and the Tangerine Dress by Christine Baldacchino
My Princess Boy by Cheryl Kilodavis
My Rainbow by DeShanna Neal
Pride: the Story of Harvey Milk and the Rainbow Flag by Rob Sanders
Rick by Alex Gino
Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry by Mildred D. Taylor
The 1619 Project: Born on the Water by Nikole Hannah-Jones

[exitseven]

@barryliverstonee So if I went to Florida I would not be able to go in a bookstore and buy one of these books?

[BarryLiverstone]

You can buy them, but they are banned in their schools based on the counties

[BarryLiverstone]

www.miaminewtimes.com/.../more-than-350-books-banned-in-florida-schools-since-last-july-16817328

[exitseven]

Not spending tax money to buy certain books for school libraries is a lot different than banning books. I bet you can find books that have not been bought for the school libraries in every town in the country.

[BarryLiverstone]

You originally said that biden is lying about banning books. So you gotta define the word “banning”. If indeed banning means no books can exist in the county that’s one definition. If banning means no books are purchased for the counties with taxes that’s another definition. Clearly the political strategy is to say banning that implies one definition to scare the left base (and independents).

It’s like CRT when conservatives warn about that in schools. It’s a political strategy to scare and divide.

[exitseven]

In Nazi Germany if a book was banned you could literally be arrested if you were found with a copy. Since we are heading back into those days I stick with that definition.

[BarryLiverstone]

No, we are not heading towards Nazi Germany. If we got close there would be a mass exodus of citizens to other countries.

[exitseven]

@BarryLiverstone I just had this conversation with my daughter today. My family is finding life in a liberal state intractable. I want o move to Florida and my daughter wonders if we should leave the country all together. I cannot believe it has come to this.

[BarryLiverstone]

Lots of people are coming here to Florida. If you want to do it, go for it. But in my opinion stay in the USA

[exitseven]

I would like to see if things will get better but I am afraid it has gone too far. I volunteered for a candidate in the last governor's race. He ran on a anti tax platform/. when he was a state rep he was responsible for a couple for big tax breaks for people. Also was against CRT i the schools and his stance on abortion was to enforce state law. He lost but really did not get much support from the RNC. His opponent was a lesbian who outspent him 10-1. Still it was demoralizing. to make things worse the crazy people in this state voted to give illegal aliens drivers licenses. I don;t think there is any way to fix this.

[lightbulb27]

That's a good strategy and they will believe it. msnbc is one of the mind control outlets of the left. Fox being their parellel on the right.

I don't think you can get the truth on media, what you can get is what they are feeding the public to control their thinking.

nobody is banning books in the libraries, it's at certain grade levels. if parents want their 6yr old reading lgbtq books, they can order them online or write them themselves.

push religion, probably yes.

[BCA6010]

The only books the right has made any significant effort to ban are pornographic crap in schools, specifically. Most (but not all) examples have made it there under the guise of being protected as LGBT+ activism.

The left broadly, but Biden especially pretending to be an advocate for personal freedom is laughable. The classical liberal who could more accurately make this claim is a dying breed, many of which are switching parties at the city and state level of government.

[Anonymous]

No, republicans don't want to ban or censor ANY books.

If Joe Biden believed in freedom he:
A) Wouldn't be spying on and persecuting his political enemies.
B) Nor would he have doubled the size of the IRS with highly intrusive rules tracking everyone's bank activities.

C) Nor would he declare his political enemies as enemies of the state Remember this speech?:

[BarryLiverstone]

I thought the right wants to take some books out of schools; like others have answered on this question. Don’t they?

[Opinion Owner]

@barryliverstone
Both republicans and democrats would prefer schools spend the tax payers money and authority teach different things.

Republicans tend to want schools to focus on history of the country, while democrats tend to want to push things like sexuality.

In both cases the Goverment schools are trying to squeeze into their schedule soo many things and doing each of them soo poorly that they tend to do a very poor job in all of them.

If your expecting to learn any subject in school you are probably barking up the wrong tree.

[Fireguy17]

No, neither party is that stupid.
There are enough splinter groups out there that have that type of agenda.
That said when you look at the dems/biden's policies now and what he what to do in the future, there are freedoms that they/he wants to take away.
So in reality both parties talk a good game, but reality shows things are always a bit different.
Politics as usual, they come first, we are dead last.

[Anonymous]

LOL no. Why would they. They want to ban children from having access to books like gender queer, and this book is gay, because they both depict graphic pornographic scenes.. So they aren't really banning those books, just wanting to keep them out of hands of children. Perhaps you should stop listening to leftist propaganda, man up, and listen to the truth.

[BarryLiverstone]

Please let me know where to listen to the truth

[Opinion Owner]

Unfortunately neither side reports it very well. Left or right. MSNBC though is the absolute worst source.

[HippieVeganJewslim]

Was Beaty, the fire chief of Fahrenheit 451, a Republikkkan? No idea, but that rubbish is just breaking the human right to enjoy the arts and sciences. Many educated pious/religious people read books. I was a bibliophile as an atheist and still am a bibliophile as a pious theist. Many fellow bibliophiles are Republicans, I daresay.

[LiamJHayden]

Nope. And Biden's "Freedom Strategy?" Freedom to what? Rob stores? Have gangs cross the border unchallenged? Work till you die because his idiotic policies eat away your retirement savings? Be at the mercy of criminals because he wants to take your guns?

[AviatorTom]

MSNBC is the voice of the liberal left. It's their job to say bad things about Republicans and conservatives.

A wise man once gave me some sage advice.

The truth is almost always in the middle, between two diverging opinions.

[BarryLiverstone]

How do you consume the news, and from multiple sources?

[Summeroflove]

No. The left wants Dr Suess and Harry Potter taken of the shelves. Republicans want porn books gone…. Go figure

[BarryLiverstone]

So everyone wants to ban books?

[Summeroflove]

Well kids shouldn’t be exposed to porn

[BarryLiverstone]

Maybe the point is who makes that decision. The government banning books certainly seems more dangerous than local school boards and schools making decisions for their community. What’s confusing is Republicans state they want limited and local government but are ok with book banning at the state level

[Summeroflove]

Okay. So you like kiddos being exposed to that 👍

[BarryLiverstone]

That’s disgusting to thumbs up kids being exposed to smut. Ideally would like parents making decisions for their kids.

[Summeroflove]

You’re the one defending it and I wasn’t thumbs upping that. I was saying yup you’re into it

[Summeroflove]

But okay Barry who sends his nasty penis to girls on here. Multiple sources who shall remain nameless

[FunkyMonkee]

So? Just keep it away from them, like my parents did and theirs did with them and theirs with them, ad infinitum.

[BarryLiverstone]

Sharing nudes on gag isn’t much of a surprise. Quite the personal attack; hopefully we both agree that school age children should focus on learning in school

[Summeroflove]

@FunkyMonkee it’s just wrong to have it in schools. Not even political. Just common sense

[FunkyMonkee]

Where did you EVER hear any of that?

[Summeroflove]

Yeah Barry you’re notorious

[Summeroflove]

@FunkyMonkee hear what?

[Summeroflove]

Barry with your little this person doesn’t exist photo to the constant unsolicited nudes including possible underage accounts. You’re quite the champ

[BarryLiverstone]

Correct

[FunkyMonkee]

It's all because of religion and our society! Other cultures allow everyone to walk around completely nude and nothing bad ever happens to them! Maybe if you took the time to teach your kids right from wrong!!!

[Summeroflove]

@FunkyMonkee yes people should stop being religious and you should force your views on people

[Summeroflove]

Barry you’re just disgusting and weird. At least you were reasonable at one point.

[BarryLiverstone]

Appreciate the feedback. At least I was reasonable at one point.

[BarryLiverstone]

People shouldn’t stop being religious. Having faith and strong family units would improve the US society overall

[Summeroflove]

Yeah it would…. But it’s not Christian like to send your disgusting penis to everyone here

[BarryLiverstone]

You have made that point. I said that I agree. Certainly it’s not. As I said sharing nudes on gag seems prevalent

[FunkyMonkee]

It was never in any school I ever went to! As far as I know, the first time it's become a problem was a couple years ago when the insane lefties shoved it into schools!!

[Summeroflove]

Then you should repent and stop it

[BarryLiverstone]

Pretty much. Sure don’t share as often as when I started on gag. Hbu? Did you wanna keep hammering me about this or repent any sins?

[Summeroflove]

@FunkyMonkee yeah exactly it’s the extreme left defending this. Even gay people don’t support it and trans people. But you’re called homophonic.

They’re making the LGBT community look bad when they say if you’re against the most extreme fringe end of the community does. You’re against them all

[FunkyMonkee]

Hear this, "What’s confusing is Republicans state they want limited and local government but are ok with book banning at the state level "

[Summeroflove]

I’ve never shared them not once. But if you claim to be a man of faith. I assume you repent….

[Summeroflove]

@FunkyMonkee there is a time you have to step in. I think you just miss the point. Do you want these books in schools or not?

It’s like saying teachers can’t show porn as a sex Ed video. Or shit I better not give them ideas

[BarryLiverstone]

Good for you. I said sin, you can repent for any sin. Not just sharing pics online

[Summeroflove]

Yeah I repent and no you can’t be forgiven of blasphemy of the Holy Spirt

[BarryLiverstone]

And tbh porn online is better than finding it on gag anyway. As you know

[FunkyMonkee]

No, just stop the religious bullshit! Why is it okay for the religious to force THEIR views onto those that don't believe in that junk but it's NOT okay to say it doesn't exist?

[BarryLiverstone]

Thank God you repent, better person than I am.

[FunkyMonkee]

Getting rid of religion would do MUCH more good than harm!

[Summeroflove]

Didn’t say I was better then you. If you repent and do your best to get right. You’re on the same level. I repent too. But I do my best not to do whatever it is anymore

[Summeroflove]

@FunkyMonkee I’m not forcing my views. Barry was talking about it. Seems to be a common argument that we force our views.

Yet y’all always want people to go along with your nonsense or stop being religious. You’re probably the type of person to tell a family they shouldn’t pray because it’s forcing religion.

[Summeroflove]

@FunkyMonkee okay well. Seems I know whose wanting to force their views. Now I’m going to bed

[BarryLiverstone]

Glad we are both on the same level. As sinners no one is perfect. But we all strive to make a more perfect Union as citizens

[Summeroflove]

Amen to that. Now goodnight y’all I have had about enough of this website as I can take for a night. My goodness

[FunkyMonkee]

I know, I was just responding to your question.
I'd tell ANYONE not to pray because it doesn't do ANY good at all!! Two hands helping can do WAY more good than 20, 200, 2,000 or 2,000,000 hands praying!!

[BarryLiverstone]

Guys thanks for the time. Once again no opinions were changed and at least we killed off 30 min of a weekend. I’d say prayer is worth it personally. Peace :)

[FunkyMonkee]

I have never once had a teach hoist they're porn habits onto me or anyone else (that I know of) in all my school years! even if they DID show those sex ed movies, I never saw any of them and, from what I understand, they've BEEN showing them to adolescents for decades!! If that's all it is, there's nothing wrong with knowing how the human body works. You HAVE learn SOME time!!

[FunkyMonkee]

It sure isn't me!

[FunkyMonkee]

Tell that to the 3000+ people that still died on or because of Sept. 11th even though a great portion of the planet was praying for them!

[BarryLiverstone]

I can’t tell that to dead people.

[FunkyMonkee]

Maybe everybody should've prayed harder and they'd all still be alive!

[FunkyMonkee]

You might wanna take a look at the first 2:30 of this!
https://youtu.be/I6u47So8rRk

[BarryLiverstone]

So after thinking and praying, my question is how do I no longer be marked as notorious? If I repent and change wouldn’t I always be judged?

[brad2525]

Maybe stop sending your penis to underage girls is a start. Stop sliding into every girls dms, stop making woman fall for you and catfishing her thinking you actually care for her, etc.

[BarryLiverstone]

Back to my question. If I stop taking actions that are not the best; how does that improve the reputation? If an online community has already judged one way, how can that judgment change?

[brad2525]

By proving them wrong. As in stop doing what your doing to so many other women and then have them spread it around to other woman on here. And for guys I can't really say cause I dont know what they hear. But maybe just stop thinking with your penis. You made a woman fall for you thinking you actually cared for her and then do her wrong.

[BarryLiverstone]

I have already cut many of these things from my activity on gag in 2023 and it hasn’t spread yet. I know that negative gossip spreads like wild fire. But I’m not sure that positive activity has the same effect. I feel lots of guilt for bad decisions but I’m not sure that helps to share.

I’m confused , it sounds like you are not a guy Brad? Based on you saying you don’t know what guys hear

[brad2525]

Well I dont know what they hear about you from other woman you have played with is what i mean. I'm assuming reading this conversation from one guy sounds like you go into girls dms a lot. Especially underage ones apparently. Hope you dont get reported by police.

[BarryLiverstone]

Hope not. Best to just obey the gag rules and take it day by day

[Summeroflove]

Okay y’all OH MY GOSH

[Summeroflove]

@FunkyMonkee cool then don’t pray. I’ll do what I want

[brad2525]

@BarryLiverstone you must not be a actually person. Probably some child molester living behind a fake profile.

[Summeroflove]

@brad2525 yes he’s a very interesting individual. His photo looks very AI as well. Like this person does not exist

[FunkyMonkee]

Be my guest! I won't stop you!! But, if you were in the middle of the ocean and I was in a lifeboat about 50 feet away, would you rather I try to paddle over to save you or just sit in the boat and pray that god helps you?
Would think badly of me of I paddled away from you and told you that I'll pray for you?

[brad2525]

@Summeroflove one girl I know that knows him is very devastated about what happened to her. I feel so bad for her. Like I would never do that to someone.

[BarryLiverstone]

Summer sorry for all the alerts you must be getting. I’ll no longer add replies onto this answer so you don’t get more frustrated.

[Summeroflove]

It’s okay lol. I just didn’t expect this to blow up like that.

[Grond21]

If you listen to MSMBC long enough, they will convince you that all republicans are evil and all democrats are saints. History didn't start until the Democrat party, and anything wrong in the world is because of republican presidents

[BarryLiverstone]

The irony is when I watch some msnbc the drinking game is Trump, Fox News it’s Biden.

[Grond21]

Haha, yep! It's so true.

[Grond21]

The main stream media has abandoned so much journalism credibility and is now just peddling fear and anger.

[BarryLiverstone]

Yes it’s gotta “sell the soap”. Unfortunately as citizens we can’t get unbiased factual news from one source

[Grond21]

Well, there are a lot of citizen journalists rising up now, to varying degrees of success. I feel like we are starting to get a clearer picture. But if we're talking about mainstream media you are absolutely right?

[Grond21]

Ignore the '?'

[LazerBean]

Nope, just the porn for children they are trying to distribute to schools.

[BarryLiverstone]

I agree that children under the age of 12 shouldn’t see porn in school. They are there to learn

[FunkyMonkee]

There shouldn't be ANY porn in school!! Sex is for the parents to teach their own kids! Besides, kids already koow about sex by the time they're 6 or 7!

[Anonymous]

Yes, they do.

[BarryLiverstone]

I sure hope not. Books are vital in education and allow us to escape

[FunkyMonkee]

And, how many GUNS have taken lives?

[Cathy7734]

@FunkyMonkee Guns don't kill people. People kill people. With your logic, they should outlaw alcohol. There are so many deaths due to DUI.

[FunkyMonkee]

@Cathy7734 That's exactly my point! I have yet to see or hear of a gun roaming the streets on its own and shooting people.
Booze SHOULD be illegal!! Cigarettes, too!!

[BCRanger10]

I've only heard of one instance of this happening and it apparently was because it was a book pushing LGBT propaganda and said book included explicit sexual images.

[FunkyMonkee]

Absolutely not!! If anybody does, it's the democrats!! Look what they've done to our statues, our media, our laws, our lives!!

[BarryLiverstone]

Seems like both parties are into banning things then

[FunkyMonkee]

No, just the left.

[BarryLiverstone]

Both based on the news

[FunkyMonkee]

I don't pay attention "the news" because, most often it's NOT THE news, it's their version of what they want you to think is the news. That's why you believe the right want to ban books!!

[BarryLiverstone]

Well books have already been banned, so it’s a fact a not a belief

[FunkyMonkee]

Sure, a couple hundred years ago.

[Apulu_Imback]

Ban all books? Hell no! I'm really against it!

[BarryLiverstone]

I also don’t want all books banned. Sounds like that can’t happen thankfully

[Apulu_Imback]

I can't imagine reading a novel from internet instead of holding the book itself, I can't live without the smell of old books and libraries!

[Ptrmbrs88]

"Was watching MSNBC tonight..."

Yeah, you really do need to stop doing that. :D

[Cathy7734]

Watching MSNBC is as worst as watching pornography. They are both full of lies.

[BarryLiverstone]

If you only watch one source of news you can be in an echo chamber

[Ptrmbrs88]

So what else do you watch then, to balance things out.

[BarryLiverstone]

CNN, fox, msnbc, BBC, daily show, daily wire.. listen to npr and watch yt.

[BarryLiverstone]

Can you suggest other sources?

[Count_de_Monte_Volo]

Stop watching mainstream news channels. It’s poison for your brain. That is ridiculous.

[Count_de_Monte_Volo]

They might want to ban some books that deserve to be banned and they might want to push religion but they’ve always pushed religion.

[Count_de_Monte_Volo]

They probably won’t be able to achieve these goals anyways or even be allowed to try.

[Anonymous]

MSNBC? They should probably stick to stalking jury buses and trying to intimidate jurors to influence the outcomes of high profile trials and stop outright lying about Republicans wanting to burn books. 🤣

[Twalli]

They don't want to ban all books, just any that they think might imply that their core beliefs aren't the only thing that exists.

[Anonymous]

Keep in mind you were watching MSNBC. There's your clue.

[BarryLiverstone]

Yes, they were covering the correspondents dinner. Did you watch?

[Opinion Owner]

Not this year. I actually don't think I've watched one since Obama's.

[BarryLiverstone]

You can a clip of it online, I thought Roy Wood Jr was funny in what he said

[Opinion Owner]

I might do that.

[Opinion Owner]

I remember him from the daily show

[14Rory]

They are trying to do that at schools where I live.

[BarryLiverstone]

What’s happening. Please let us know

[14Rory]

They have a list of novels that they think are not appropriate or saying they are giving bad ideas

[BarryLiverstone]

The novels are in your school library?

[Dargil]

What do you think?

[BarryLiverstone]

Think that the right wants to ban some books in school

[BarryLiverstone]

What do you think?

[Dargil]

Generally, which ones? Anything in particular?

[BarryLiverstone]

Yes in particular I already added a list of books on this q

[Dargil]

Was watching MSNBC tonight and several people said the Biden will run on a strategy of freedom. And that the right wants to ban books and push religion onto the country. Are these facts?
*No evidence of it. Still, what books should Republicans ban?

[BarryLiverstone]

Oh you were also watching msnbc, like me. Which books did you want to ban?

[Christoff92]

Always something to get the crowd going 🤣🫤

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

Lol…