Russia has won the war true or false?

Question

Russia has physically destroyed Ukraine

Forced western countries to go bankrupt

Gotten many former allies to join Brics

Germany 's economy is collapsing

Russia's economy is doing well despite sanctions

India has turned on US

US National Debt is heading for $33 Trillion

Ukraine destroyed

Russia no damage

Lliam · Accepted Answer

The Dr. Strangelove psychopaths who run the U. S. State Department and CIA have wanted to destroy Russia ever since Putin came to power and ended the plundering of state assets by gangsters and multinational corporations under Yeltsin.

They created the conditions in Ukraine that would give Russia no choice but to either take action or allow hostile forces to occupy its borders and steal its Black Sea naval base in Crimea.

Russia tried for 8 years to negotiate a peaceful agreement with Ukraine, but the U. S. prevented it.

Would the U. S. have negotiated for 8 years if a hostile power had engineered a coup d'etat in Mexico, built chemical and biological warfare facilities near the U. S., and threatened to build military bases and missile launchers along the U. S. border?

Finally, Russia decided that it had no choice than to take action. And even then, it was a measured response that was designed to show that it was serious about negotiating a peaceful settlement.

That didn't work, so Russia was forced to escalate.

If it had wanted to absorb Ukraine, it could have easily done a "shock and awe" campaign like the one the U. S. perpetrated on Iraq. But Russia wanted to minimize civilian casualties. It was the Ukrainian Nazis who had no respect for human life, as demonstrated by what they did in Odessa and then for 8 years in the Donbas region. They wanted to exterminate ethnic Russians and Russian speaking people the way Hitler wanted to exterminate Jews.

Russia has the power to end Ukraine, but that was never its intention.

And U. S. leaders, in their mistaken belief that Russia is weak and vulnerable, have continued to double down like gambling addicts, at the expense of the Ukrainian people and the people of Europe. In the process, they have alienated allies and strengthened Russia's ties with other countries that are tired of being bullied by the U. S.

There is no way that Russia can lose in Ukraine. The only alternative for the U. S. is to start WWIII and annihilate civilization.

monorprise · Accepted Answer

It really isn't worth saying you have to be completely delusional or Joe Biden to think anything bout large scale death and destruction would follow helping Ukraine try to fight Russia.

Russia with one of the worlds largest militarizes, vastly out numbers and out guns Ukraine, a country right on their border. Even with Russia's enormous problems of corruption and an economy the size of Italy, this war was over long before it ever started.

Arming Ukraine only ever served the propose of making the war costly enough for Russia to choose not to wage it. Once Russia committed it's troops to a full scale invasion of Ukraine.

The only thing those arms and the sanctions could do is bloody Russia a little and force them into the hands of the Chinese communist party. That is how we these united States lost this war big time in-spite of not being a party to it.

Our enemy now effectively owns Russia and with her resources is no longer containable via naval blockade.

Anonymous · Answer

If Russia has won what exactly have they won? Russian victory at best is a Phyric victory.

1. Russia had been shown to be militarily weak in front of the rest of the world, bad enough other neighbouring countries are emboldened to join NATO but China can see it.

2. Russia is going bankrupt trying to support their war effort. They are having to sell their oil/gas at a major discount to India and China and take extortionate loans from them in exchange for technology.

3. BRICS is largely a loose economic alliance with the only 3 that matters being China, India and Russia and these are not allies, they are rivals. Look at the other BRIC members South Africa which is a failed nation falling apart, its also part of the British Commonwealth and the leader of that is King Charles 3rd which is part of NATO. Brazil is another country with serious problems, its in America's back yard. Look at all the other countries that are looking to join, they are all in the US sphere of influence so when they join the US will have a say in BRICS.

4. Germany's economy collapsing may be in US intrest. Germany is the main backer of the EU. The EU is the largest economy in the world and a rival to the US economy. Breaking it up or curtailing it or lending to it or buying up European industry is in US intrests as well as selling to them more US products.

5. India has not turned on the US. India sees an opportunity. India is also getting rid of Russian military equipment for NATO equipment.

6. US National debt has been hig since the war in Iraq. Easily dealt with.

7. Drones are a very efficient cheap efficient way of attacking your enemy.

8. The US is bleeding Russia in Ukraine. Ukraine is taking out war loans to buy US military equipment that the US military is getting rid of anyway.

9. The US is playing a bigger strategic game. It doesn't matter if Russia wins in Ukraine, what mattered was that they invade Ukraine like they wanted.

10. China wants back territory the Russians stole from the over 100 years ago. If they are in debt to China they may have to give it back.

11. Between Russia and China the US finally has enemies to justify military spending and to encourage other nations to buy weapons and remilitarise

Soteris · Answer

1: Has Russia physically destroyed Ukraine? No. Only a very small fraction of the country along the front line is actively being ruined and Ukraine is a very big country even if you ignore the parts Russia is currently occupying.

2: No "Western" country that I know of is threatening to go bankrupt outside of USA and that is due to political fuckery and not because of the economic burden (?) of supporting Ukraine. In fact, many country are actually cutting off liabilities such as old military equipment that used to cost them a bunch of money and as a result would be paying less in the future.

3: "Gotten former allies to join Brics?" Dude, NATO has gained far more than Brics because of this war so even if you make that argument it is still a net loss for Russia.

4: "Germanys economy is collapsing", Its not. While there is some down scaling that has other economic factors and is not because of Ukraine or Russia.

5: There is an open question if Russia will still be a country after this war. Saying their economy is doing "well despite the sanctions" is like saying your body is holding up well despite being burned alive at the stake.

6: "India has turned on US"? No. India is an independent power block, they are building their own faction. They are not part of the "Western" or China/Russia's sphere of influence. They are their own major power and this has nothing to do with Ukraine or Russia or China or USA.

7: The sun rises in the morning and the US debt is increasing. What else is new?

All your examples are really stupid. Lets ask a better question to see if Russia is winning or not. Is there still a Ukraine? If so, Russia is losing. The end.

FreyaRed · Answer

Russia lost and still loses every day. Destruction of Ukraine means nothing for most of people in the west, rebuilding a country is good for western economies.
However the image damage of Russia and massive loss of Russian power projection is very satisfying. It happens when a bully gets beaten to shit by his victim.

Avicenna · Answer

Russia wins once it conquers what it wants (eastern Ukraine) , gets its conquest recognized internationally and gets a puppet regime in Kiev. Has it done that yet? Definitely not. But Russia is wearing Ukraine down (the Russian way of war) and sanctions on Russia have largely failed.

Anonymous · Answer

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ManOnFire · Answer

Yeah, that's why Russia is now digging up an arsenal of their older tanks to use on the battlefield because they're losing all their 'modern' stuff so quickly in the war.

AllAloneInTheWorld · Answer

How does anyone win in a war when hundreds possibly even thousands of people are dying after what sounds like they were forced to fight

Sevenpointfive · Answer

i don't think anyone doubted they'd win. but are they still fighting or just throwing mean glances?

katiesmuff · Answer

Seems like every time you run your mouth here it is some crap of lies just to get the trump sociopath's stirred up.

exitseven · Answer

Biden has already been paid off so we will be there "As long as it takes" or at least until we can vote this corrupt crook out of office or put him in prison whatever comes first.

WalnutButter · Answer

The war was/is fake. Where did all the billions go? Three world leaders are laughing at us, and Biden forgot why he's laughing.

Likes2drive · Answer

Not really but eventually they might unless they go broke doing it

RavVid · Answer

It is not hard to see there are two autocrats with a desire to take over most of the world like WW2. Russia certainly hasn't won and is breaking it self in the process. .

Fuentes · Answer

Lol Biden has destroyed this country

mommymommymommy · Answer

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