What does Hunter's actions have to do with his father?

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As I understand it he's went off the rails a bit but what exactly does that have to do with his fathers ability to do his job? Surely as an adult his own actions are his own responsibility. If you hold Joe accountable then surely you yourself should be judged by the actions of your family when you apply for a job.

Perhaps even people should be sacked if a sibling, spouse, child does something bad. Hell, you could even be forced to pay retributions to clear your name if an ancestor was a naughty boy and kept slaves or something.

Thoughts?

WhiteSteve · Accepted Answer

Political opponents of Joe Biden and the Democrats are using Biden’s flawed son as a proxy to attack the President. That’s the main thing. They’ve got a bigger story they hope to prove with alleged shady business deals with other countries, but none of that seems to be panning out, so it’s back to “Joe Biden’s son is a junkie and a pervert! Think of how that reflects on Joe Biden as a father, and subsequently as a president!”

So…. here’s the deal: Republicans are unbelievably mad and unbelievably stunned that their brash, big-talking candidate and incumbent President was humbled by losing to a fairly uninspiring glass of warm milk like Joe Biden. The whole Trump-style shit-talking that went on throughout the campaign from Trump and his supporters alike (many of whom have adopted this very juvenile mentality of “Priority #1: Own the libs!” and seem to enjoy loudly trashing the ideas of opponents while presenting few solutions of their own) made the loss that more embarrassing. Their whole brand was “So much winning!”

The only move now is to try to hammer home the idea that Joe Biden is the worst president in American history, maybe even the worst national leader ever, and creating the narrative that life in America has never been worse. They blame things that Biden has little to no control over or effect on on him, routinely. Most of the world is dealing with inflation, gas prices, and economic hardships on, but —I hope you’re sitting down for this— many Americans seem to think America is the only country on Earth, these problems are unique to America, and a direct consequence of the actions of Joe Biden. It’s astonishingly stupid, honestly, and couldn’t be more neutral on Biden, I’m not a cheerleader for the guy. Republicans seem to think it’s an insult to suggest Biden was basically elected for being not-Trump, but I’d say that’s more a result of how bad Trump was rather than how mid Biden appeared.

So here we are now, I think I read a poll that 60-some% of Republicans still believe the election was stolen from Trump. I’m so fatigued of arguing about it, so I’ll just sum that up with 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Watching a con man hustle half of your countrymen is just a wild thing to observe, I’m in so much disbelief, but I guess I really shouldn’t be. Unfortunately, a lot of people are still operating on the premise of “well, if Trump says it’s true, then I believe him”, and that’s fatal flaw with a 150-lies-per-minute guy like Trump. I’m really just shocked at how bad people are discerning lies —CRAZY LIES— from the truth. And I’m frustrated because I know how hard these same people would be going against the same story and calling it preposterous if it came from the Democrats, it’s honestly fucking ludicrous, they have to know that at some level, I don’t want to believe people are this gullible. Like if you got got in the early going, fine…. but TODAY? In June 2023? You’re STILL attaching your own good name to this guy? That’s bananas, man. Imagine thinking that ONE guy is right, and there are just countless intricate conspiracies going against your guy and your party. Like if it was one conspiracy theory, fine, maybe even two. But these guys have hundreds, if not thousands, of looney toons conspiracy theories basically suggesting that the fix is in for one party, right down to citizens selected for Trump’s grand juries. These people must still believe in the Tooth Fairy too, holy smokes.

So all these aforementioned people, whether everyday citizens, right wing media members, Republican politicians, have FULLY COMMITTED (and have especially recommitted since a relatively poor showing for the Republicans in the midterm elections that everyone expected them to dominate) to establishing a constant ongoing narrative that Joe Biden is the worst president ever, everything he’s touched has gone to shit, and that every negative thing that happens in the world between his inauguration and the day he leaves office (maybe feet-first, lmao) is all the fault of Joe Biden and the Democrats, for the very simple reason that the millions and millions of uninformed voters in this country will go to the polls next time with an elementary school education level mentality of “Democrat bad; Republican good”, no real substance required, just vague shouts about gas prices and the southern border. That’s unfortunately how elections are won in America, because most Americans are very stupid, selfish, and short-sighted. I’d say that’s fair to say across the board, but the way it’s manifested itself this time around just feels extra.

Last point is just January 6th is the biggest self-inflicted black eye you could assign to a specific party in American history. After half a year of loudly denouncing riots over police brutality (which for sure could get out of hand, as riots sometimes do, but still ultimately began with noble intentions about an ongoing societal issue I’ve witnessed here my entire life), Trump charged up his craziest supporters, and they literally attacked our Capitol building to stop the democratic process the country is founded upon. They did all the shit they trashed BLM for, and more. But they can’t just wear that, they want to try to excuse it and minimize it and basically forget it happened or that it was reasonable, but never forget that it’s not because you SHOULD, it’s because they WANT US TO, for their own political gain. Easiest thing in the world would be to run as a Democrat and just be like “look what these crazy Republican assholes did!”, but they just can’t have that, that’s super-damaging, so instead they have to pretend it was all legit and the people denouncing it are the real traitors, lmfao. But most of the Republican politicians, you can see right through their phony support for Trump. They know Trump activated a lot of, er…how do I put this politely?…. absolute fucking morons who shop barefoot at Walmart and never had any semblance of serious interest and participation in politics in the past, but they got shaken up by having a black president, or just got caught up in the carnival atmosphere of Trump and his brand of political insult comedy. He says a light cuss word like “bullshit” in a speech and his crowd goes wild, it’s like he’s performing for third-graders, lmfao, I’m just in absolute disbelief that anyone takes any of the people involved at all seriously. “He’s so irreverent! Lol!” Mean-spirited people with shitty things to say were given permission by him to be shitty out loud, so they love the guy. This is the level of quality of human we’re dealing with. Yikes. Pray for America, we’re hanging on by a thread.

BoobSlayer · Accepted Answer

A U. S. president should indeed be accountable for the actions of their son or daughter. As the leader of the nation, they have a responsibility to set an example and uphold the highest standards of behavior. It is not enough to simply distance oneself from any wrongdoing by their son or daughter; they must take a proactive stance in setting expectations of conduct.

Biden must be aware that his actions reflect on them and the office they hold. And, if his son is engaging in activities that are considered inappropriate or illegal, then action needs to be taken to address the problem. Otherwise, that lack of attention will be seen as a signal of tacit approval of those activities.

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Anonymous · Accepted Answer

It only matters because they can't out fox the old fox. Every time they come toe to toe with the old man, he brings them to their knees... McCarthy thought that just having a negotiation with him was a W!

They are attacking his son because they know that unlike many of them, he cares about his family, especially his sons. Having had to raise them on his own, he likely has a stronger bond than many fathers. And after losing one while fighting for our country (more than you can say for most politicians who vote to send out sons and daughters to die) he likely values his children's wellbeing Eben more. So this is essentially them trying to hit an old man where it hurts the most, knowing full well there is nothing there and even if there were it wouldn't mean Joe Biden did anything. It's disgusting when people stoop that low.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

It’s just a way to attack Joe through his son. Hunter is an adult and is responsible for his own actions. They don’t have anything particularly damaging on Joe, so the right goes after Hunter, who is obviously an extremely flawed person and tries to create a link. He’s also a convenient distraction from certain other ongoing criminal cases.

BoopBoopBeep · Answer

As someone with a high security clearance, I'm frequently questioned about my family members. If I have a crazy uncle eddy that can't keep his pants on around babysitters I can either cut him out of my life or lose my access, because it a) shows association with people of bad moral character and b) is something I could be compromised through blackmail about.

Doesn't matter if I agree, you agree, anyone else agrees, that's the process. I think people are irritated that it's another example of the political elites being able to do something that the average person can't. If I'd pulled a Hilary and set up a private mail server for classified information I'd be in Leavenworth because MY name has no weight to it, but the people inside the beltline always have their own sets of rules.

exitseven · Answer

He was the bag man for his father. He participated in an influence peddling scheme and took payments from many foreign countries including Ukraine, China and Russia. Nobody knows what it was that he did for those millions of dollars. He has no special skills or expertise in anything except maybe coccaine and hookers.

There are emails detailing that he had to "kick back" 10% to the Big Guy. You don't have to be a genius to figure out who the Big Guy is.

normalice · Answer

Republicans are not clever. When they make something up they use themselves as inspiration. This makes it infinitely easier to make stuff up and also reinforces their narcissism as they get to look clever just by thinking of themselves. So, because all of the adult Trump kids are gushing corruption, they set out to create a narrative where Biden's kids are also corrupt. Once they decided to do that it doesn't really matter if there is any truth to the accusations. The point is to make them so that some people stop thinking it's nuts to consider the blatantly corrupt Trump family.

Avicenna · Answer

The Biden Crime Family leverages Joe’s offices to take bribes. Do you really think some Chinese private equity company or some Ukrainian energy company needs Hunter Biden’s experience with prostitutes and drugs?

Joe Biden for decades was the poorest member of the Senate.

Exterminatore · Answer

You do make both a good a valid point in essentially stating that we’re each responsible for ourselves only.

Good. Now we can put the slave reparations debate to bed.

But I digress from my point. I think this is more about possible illegal business dealings with Barisma than anything. Which the president did play a role in.

Anonymous · Answer

Its not so much his actions and Joe. Its the great lengths Joe has gone to cover his sons actions up. And the fact that they shared joint bank accounts when said actions took place and money from said account funded said actions. It means that even if Joe was not covering it up, He at least knew about it and chose to do nothing. In any case there is something wrong and it needs to come out.

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Because Joe sent Hunter to Ukraine to make money for "the family". Now we are funding a war in the Ukraine...🤔🤔🤔

coachTanthony · Answer

Joe Biden just tried out for the new walking dead spin off.

Anonymous · Answer

Hunter and Joe shared bank accounts and money has been alleged to have shown up in Joe's possession. So the corruption allegations are pretty consequential. So there's more going on here than just blaming the father for his son being a fuck up. If that's all there was to it, then yeah--I'd agree with you, but there could actually be a lot more that directly involves dad.

Anonymous · Answer

The apple (or in this case, nut) doesn't fall from the tree. If Joey is his father he instilled those values in him. When you're a public figure you're judged not only by everything you've done. But also everyone you've associated with it. Don't like this then don't run for office.

Anonymous · Answer

Everything

I know people who've change their names to avoid family ties that would have never got them employed
Look at Philip Schofield, his brother is convicted of being a nonce and within a few days he'd been show to be the John to the Fred

Anonymous · Answer

The real question is that if he's guilty has and is Joe Biden as president of the United States been abusing his power to keep his son out of jail.

AviatorTom · Answer

Nothing, if Hunter acted alone... but there is mounting evidence that his father was also involved in the bribery scheme that Hunter was in.

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

I heard his father knew of his illegal actions as VP and didn't do nothing about it; but I don't know if that is true.  If not then Joe Biden shouldn't be held responsible for his son's conduct.

kespethdude · Answer

Absolutely nothing. The Trumptards are continuing to grasp at non-existent straws.

DextroShade · Answer

He kicked back some of the bride money to "the big guy" so Joe was in on it. The Biden crime family should be in prison.

LiamJHayden · Answer

He is not responsible for his son's actions, however there are questions about whether Mr. Biden was involved in his son's shady dealings.

Anonymous · Answer

They go after Hunter because they have nothing else to go on. It is pure desperation.

Anonymous · Answer

The problem with Hunter is that he took bribes for his father. Hunter's drug and hooker use is bad for Hunter; but his money laundering of his father's bribery scheme from foreign investors is bad for both him and his father.

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