Why does modern western society hate men so much?

[Anonymous]

Why does modern western society hate men so much?

[Anonymous]

Because our society knows that it is socially unacceptable for them to complain about it. Where do you think all this demonization of MGTOW, incels and MRAs come from even though all they really want is for the sexes get along again and for more just systems? Our society does not even bother to consider their problems honestly otherwise they might end up like Cassie Jaye, the creator of the red pill documentary.

The high suicide rate, the high death rate in workplace, the laws written so that they cannot (or rather make it as difficult as possible to) be victims of certain violent crimes like rape, the biased divorce courts, the sentencing gap, the complete disregard of their human rights especially if they have been accused of a heinous crime, the draft, and many more.

If any of this was suddenly a women's issue, these issues would have caused many laws to be passed ASAP. (What do you think happened when the government tried to include women in the draft, several times?) So the only way these issues could be fixed is if these issues can somehow be made to be women's issues. I wish it doesn't have to be this way but I suppose we have no choice if equality under the law could be achieved.

[Dargil]

It is a social trend caused by socialist with the intention of driving wedges between people. They're driving those wedges between people of race of gender and a political beliefs. Their intention is to separate us so that they can control us and steal our money

[Dargil]

Race relations had entered

[Dargil]

Sorry about that. Race relations had entered a period of peace starting in the 1980s until Barack Obama was elected president and he intentionally created the disturbance that we see today in race relations that Biden is making even worse. Today's race relations are exactly the fault of Barack Hussein Obama.

[AmandaYVR]

I don't think it's true.

But what you are feeling is a pushback that has basically been accelerated by the #metoo movement, which is women coming forward, especially in the workplace, to stand up to male sexual harassers, oppressors, rapists, those who extracted sex from a woman to give her an opportunity in the business world, entertainment industry, etc. Women have been mostly silent in this for a very long time and they are now speaking up.

Teenage girls are taught to "be careful" with males. There is an element of fear, safety, danger, that is taught to them.

[Asker]

False rape accusations are a problem as well.

[_Maya_]

And the rape accusation unreported are?

[Snakeyes7]

@_Maya_ At that point, we need to ask why the rape was not reported and there are a variety of reasons it could be.

[Anonymous]

In modern society, people are jockeying for victim status. Think I'm wrong? Just say that group A has it worse than group B and take in all the crying that follows. In order to have victims, you must have victimizers. The group that is perceived to have the most power is singled out and demonized.

[inhua]

modern western society only hates men who refuse to bow down to the gynocentric social order whom they believe should be bowing down to the gynocentric social order

[AaronKrieger]

It doesn't and you need to spend less time on social media.

[inhua]

well this is happening in the streets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw

[AaronKrieger]

@inhua Yes, certain parts of society is unfair, but other parts are as well for women. Life in general has aspects of it that are unfair. If you do agree with me on that, then you might as well say "modern society hates both men and women" which is pointless, since that's everyone here (no point to make it gender focused).

[inhua]

actually it can be gender focused when the advocates for equality only highlight the issues for one gender and refuse to acknowledge the issues of the other gender

now if they weren't advocating for equality, that would be different

[AaronKrieger]

@inhua It can become gender focused when it's about a specific issue, but a statement such as "modern society hates men" is too broad. Most of our society does not actively hate on men. The only parts that do are primarily on social media or in-city universities with a high demographic of democrats/liberals.

There is truth that modern feminists do not include men's issues 95% of the time, but most of our society is not filled with feminists. That's why I believe modern society doesn't hate men. Also, us men also tend to not speak on our own gender's issues in comparison to women without directly shitting on them. Social media has created a new age of crossly exaggerated things and being divisive (it existed before, but never on this level)

[AaronKrieger]

grossly*

[inhua]

the truth can "come off" as shitting on someone but it's still the truth regardless unless you have other ways of interpreting the same message

for example, 50-60% of all marriages end in divorce, 70-80% are filed by women, 98% of alimony recipients are women, 80% of all sole child custody battles go to the mother, paternity fraud affects men 100%

these are some basic facts which some people may interpret as "shitting on women"

if you were to speak up on this issue without coming off as "shitting on women", how would you rewrite this without changing the facts?

[AaronKrieger]

@inhua I never said stating statistics is shitting on women, but the delivery can be. People can interpret your delivery as shitting on women, which no one has complete control over, but it's likelihood can be.

If the goal here is to communicate an issue, then it needs to be delivered effectively and I do not say that targeting you. I am speaking generally, as I have seen a lot of men suck at this. There has been an increase in division between both genders and I've noticed it to be more common in men to instigate it compared to women.

[inhua]

while it's true some guys suck at messaging, guys who are good at messaging can still be purposely misinterpreted say like Jordan Peterson for whom some of his advice towards men had the genders been flipped would cause mass public outrage

[AaronKrieger]

@inhua That's a good example and true, which is why I said it's not completely under your control when it comes to how other's will interpret your message.

Jordan Peterson's messages aren't even like Andrew Tate where there's some positivity, but other parts are questionable. He gives positive messages for the most part in a calm demeanor and not an aggressive one, yet he still got shit for it. It sucks to see.

[inhua]

I wouldn't say there's no positivity to Andrew Tate's messages. granted he uses a more harsh tone but sometimes a harsh tone is needed because some people refuse to take in the message when they believe they could walk over the messenger

these are some of Andrew Tate's positive messaging that the media tends to gloss over. you don't have to agree with any of his messaging but I don't they are as negative as the media makes it out to be when only bad stuff tends to go viral

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E87PRS437g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWWFIgAHg4w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISs3y2d0D2c

take fitness influencer John Burk, a former drill sergeant. most people would accuse John of engaging in toxic masculinity but nevertheless, he is correct in his messaging even if nobody likes it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8zckjba2I8

[reds-noro]

It doesn't really hate men much at all. You're just exaggerating.

[tzdc21]

He's really not. Everyday there some new way to demonize, shame, spit on, or emasculate men. You see this in real life, movies, video games, television series, books, EVERYWHERE. It's happened so much that us guys have now come to expect it in our everyday lives.

[Nikki1989]

It doesn't. Step out into the real world and you will see.

[DextroShade]

The globohomo push feminism so they can destroy Western civilization. All modern feminism is simply the hatred of men.

[Anonymous]

It's the infulence feminism has had on modern culture and politics. They said they just wanted to boost females up, but there is no question they obviously did it by trying to drag males down.

[Anonymous]

They hate hetero men not men in general and i guess that's because there's so many gay men in top position.

[OddBeMe]

(Checking)
Nope, straight white men dominate every stat.

It just “feels” like we’re hated because we reached the top already.

[Anonymous]

Men gave women the vote and they have hated them ever since for it.

[Anonymous]

They don't...
They hate poor men who asked for share expenses on first date...

[_piotr]

World is gynocentric.

[AngryCarl2]

Because Western men are bitches.

[Anonymous]

It doesn’t