Why is it so popular to hate on men in todays society?

[Anonymous]

Why do you think it’s so common to hate on men for simply existing?

[Anonymous]

The ugly truth is men are not special for existing in society. We are only special for what we are able to do and accomplish.

But it’s hard for many men to accept the ugly truth on that. I personally had a hard time accepting that when I was younger. But I found that when I finally realized the ugly truth it gave me more drive to improve myself.

Of course it’s not fair It’s also not something the vast majority of women will ever fully comprehend. But it’s the cold hard ugly truth.

However the issue I have is that being a hard working yet “average” Joe is not enough for most women. They often have higher expectations for the men they date they have for themselves.

They are naturally picky (due to evolution) but they have gotten only worse in the last few decades because they are continually being told they “are special and deserve more”.

So they don’t have kids, voluntarily stay single and unmarried. It’s some sort of “freedom” or some utter bs feminism lies to them about. But it’s also defying Mother Nature.

Anyway you can’t harm men without ultimately harming women. It may take a long time but it comes in full circle. And depression rates are skyrocketing among women. They really aren’t happy with this new “modern” approach.

So you can complain all you want about how men face discrimination. And you’re right. It’s true. But women don’t care and most men who are in relationships really don’t care either (a man’s brain chemistry changes when he is a meaningful relationship. He’s more content).

No this will only change when an enough women finally realize they are really harming themselves by harming men. THAT is wen society will finally change.

[Somoneelse]

I think the question would be different: "Why is it so popular to hate on others in todays society?"

This is something I notice a lot: People hating on others. Its mostly hating on other groups or just people with something different. An different favorite football club, an different skincolor, an different haircolor, an different politics-belief, an different gender. People see people with an different thing as others being in opposite teams. So also being against their team.

I believe its so popular to hate on others simply because its easy. Its so easy to hate others. So easy to be harmfull. To hurt them rather than investing time + energy to understand them. It costs nothing to hate. But it also costs nothing to be nice. But people always want to be against everything not fitting their beliefs or view. Its them against the world. The hero in their own story.

I feel like this video from Kurzgezagt explains it well:

https://www.youtube.com/embed/fuFlMtZmvY0

[Anonymous]

It’s not for “simply existing”.
Duhh. It’s for the shit they do and the shit they say.

Most men are 10x (compared to a woman) to cheat.
And this specific case 👇 showcased that very well

All those men cheated on their wives, all of them. The moment the cop lady offered them some free “p—ssy”.

Men are 10x , compared to women, to be impulsive, immature, and be cheaters. 10x likely to be unfaithful. 10x likely to be narcissistic and entitled, full of ego, full of themselves. The hideous ones and handsome ones.

Most men and women, both know this, very well. Everyone one earth knows that because of testosterone men tend to think more like “animals” than with logic and compassion.

[Opinion Owner]

And then you look at the Manosphere people online. And it’s full of anti-woman hate.

[Kelley1]

I believe the hate is against white men. I don't believe it includes black men.

[Sharkstealth]

I know a black man a white man and a Polynesian man who all park in a handicap parking place at work everyday. They all are not at all handicapped in fact they all are like goons with an iq of about 10. I consider that very disrespectful but that's usually a character trait of low intellect people.

[shoeboxcerealcard]

@Sharkstealth No it's not. It's a trait of people who don't think.

[JacobJordan]

It only feels that way because there are so few who call it out. And the reason why it seems women receive less hate is because rightly or wrongly men still are being men and one of things men do is protect. So men call out things that bash women. There is a growing number of women are starting to realize that they have their own voice and they can use it to call out man haters which is great. Men calling out women on hating men as many know does not do all that much because 9/10 times he will be showered with toxic bs because he is a man and defending man and misogyny blah blah blah. Thing is beyond calling out other men a large portion of guys are stepping away because we feel alone in the fight because silence is acceptance. It isn't of course but if women won't call out other women for their toxicity men can't tell the difference. Had a woman earlier today on here tell me to kill myself 4 or 5 times for... get this... defending women's safety and right to privacy... once I informed her that a phone call to a cyber crimes office could lead to her arrest and imprisonment she backed off so fast.

[blueonblack22]

“ There is a growing number of women are starting to realize that they have their own voice and they can use it to call out man haters which is great”

Yep I’m noticing this too. But very oddly men don’t like being “protected” via their ego problems but paradoxically they often very badly need it.

I’ve had a few (awesome) women stick up for me against other women in the past. They are far and few between. But men are literally defenseless by society when they are being verbally attacked by women. Only another women can effectively fight back at that bs.

But what’s so weird about it is that men don’t like receiving (lest asking) for help. It’s emasculating. It’s like openly admitting they aren’t masculine enough so they need protection. Yet the way society has gotten in many cases they really DO need other people sticking up for them.

[SolitarySolace]

You’re right, and women defending men from other women rarely ever happens. Not because men don’t want their help but because women tend to side with the other woman these days. Even if she claims to love the man she at first attempted to defend. I’ve never had a woman defend me online or in person unless it’s someone in my family like my mom. Women tend to only care about themselves

[SolitarySolace]

And men do fear women these days without having to say it

[JacobJordan]

@blueonblack22 very true though it is not emasculating they think it is. But I always remember what happens when a wolf challenges the alpha with back up the lead female wolf will be ready to fight but places herself in what many think is a "submissive" position as she isn't making herself look bigger. The reality is she is protecting his throat. She positions herself in such a fashion to defend her mate. My wife has defended me from other women because she knows that I can't do much about it but that doesn't mean she is on her own. She is being that female wolf and protecting my vital points ie the fact I can't deal with a woman the same way I would a man. With a man it is really easy... I beat his ass. With a woman I can't yell at her that gets me nowhere and generally has the opposite effect. I can't get physical to just about any degree, I can either walk away or take the abuse. And I don't back down I'm not a coward. And I certainly won't take the abuse and it seems my wife is of the same mindset if I am their to protect her from men then she is their to protect me from women. People have forgotten this though again a growing number do seem to remembering this and that they absolutely can stand up and say something. It isn't a huge number but those of us who suffer can have a little hope as that number is growing.

[SolitarySolace]

What are men who don’t have a wife or partner supposed to do when confronted with a woman who is either physically or vocally abusing him? No woman is helping him is he just supposed to attempt to walk away or take the abuse? Is that really the society men want to live in?

[JacobJordan]

@SolitarySolace until more women wake up and find their voice they can try and call it out but to do so requires zero emotion and complete factuality otherwise sadly yes they walk away or accept it. And that is horrible but that is where society is right now and unfortunately things are slow. Some women will stand up for a random man. Most commonly older women those are the women that saw the end of true feminism and the rise of feminine superiority syndrome disguised as "feminism"

[SolitarySolace]

The fact that women know this is going on and obviously have a voice because of feminism but refuse to use it to defend men is what pisses me off. Women don’t deserve a man’s love until she proves it by defending men from bad feminist women

[JacobJordan]

@SolitarySolace maybe they do but the same way some guys worry about false accusations women worry about defamatory remarks from those same shitty women. Remember a lot of the women that have made huge platforms utilizing their voice to protect men have been harassed, stalked, have had wishes of rape, death, and other atrocities directed at them, doxxed, have had to deal with cps/dcf investigations etc by those shitty women. So their is grounds to be concerned around the board when it comes the feminazis

[SolitarySolace]

If a woman can’t defend a man because of fear of all of that they’re perpetuating misandry. Which do you think they’d deem worse? Perpetuating misandry or defamatory remarks?

[SolitarySolace]

If women won’t sacrifice anything to defend a man she cares about why should men defend women?

[JacobJordan]

@SolitarySolace an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. The fact men still defend women from other men is why some women are starting to reciprocate. This is a process a very slow very annoying process but giving up and rushing it will only make things worse most women are not bad. That is a fact I know it may not seem like it with how damn loud the minority of women causing the problems are. But there more good women then there are bad women. And while it is not immediately obvious which is which the good ones are making themselves known.

[SolitarySolace]

You do know saying things like “this process is a slow process” and “there are more good women then there are bad” is not gonna make me and men like me feel any better? I want women to fuckinng cry until their eyes are rimmed red and they’re in the god damned fetal position with snot running into their mouth. All I’m hearing from your paragraph is “give it up no one cares and they never will” that’s all I hear

[SolitarySolace]

Women no longer deserve the benefit of time it’s time for this bullshit to stop

[JacobJordan]

@SolitarySolace have you been outside the US?

[SolitarySolace]

Yes and all I see are women laughing and enjoying life and men stoic and accepting things the way it is I am sick of it

[JacobJordan]

@SolitarySolace when I left the states I met so many good women I couldn't walk 100 feet without seeing a dozen good women. Women that were feminine, demure, that were treating men well, treating other women well, treating children well. To date I have met more good women than bad women which is why I am saying that. I see I won't change your mind on this and while I don't agree with your approach it is your approach.

[SolitarySolace]

“Outside of the states” not “within the United States” I’m not going to go out of the United States to find love is not worth the hassle to me. Me stuck here where my family happens to be dealing with shit women all the time both in rl and online why should I put up with any of it

[JacobJordan]

@SolitarySolace I get it mate I have been saying there is a reason why the percentage of men not dating at all is growing. And the number that is looking to date is shrinking. I mean current projection is 45% of women between 20 and 45 are going to be single 2030. That is a staggering number and showcases how bad things have gotten but also showcases that what guys are doing both your approach and other approaches are working. The dynamic is shifting.

[SolitarySolace]

Not fast enough

[blueonblack22]

@SolitarySolace @jacobjordan the ugly truth is not amount men debating, pontificating and (justifiably) complaining will ever change society’s mind. We are and always will be expendable. We are not special just for existing. We are only “special” if we offer something of value to someone (looks, money, protection, etc.).

Nothing will ever change until WOMEN finally come to a very painful realization what the long term outcome is of modern feminism: misery for everybody including THEM.

You can’t harm men without ultimately harming women. And some women are noticing this. They are complaining about men not being “masculine” enough for them but it’s THEY who demonized masculinity in the first place.

But they are still in denial about it.

[blueonblack22]

@jacobjordan In a few very rare incidents I’ve had women stick up for me in public against other women. While it was completely justified I also heard my ego screaming at me saying “you’re so weak you can’t stand up for yourself”.

Well it’s next to impossible for men to fight back when women attack them nowadays. Men need to accept this help but our egos do interfere.

[JacobJordan]

@blueonblack22 your problem is you have an ego. A man has confidence. An ego is what the young man has before he gains age and wisdom. That is why I have never had such an issue if a woman sticks up for me. I knew what was being said was bullshit I didn't care enough to defend it. I am confident in my masculinity and myself. I have no second guessing or doubts or insecurities that one can use. Many men that have an ego have an overinflated sense of where they stand and who they are. Where the confident man knows who and what he is.

[blueonblack22]

@jacobjordan your right. I do have an ego problem and it wasn’t until very recently I fully accepted that.

The thing is nobody ever told me I had an ego problem because I was usually a “nice guy”. I also has a very rough childhood.

This led to me being passive aggressive. At heard I’m a peacemaker that just want things to be chill and calm but not everybody thinks the same way I do. Some people (especially modern women) enjoy the drama.

I have improved on this though recently. It’s not easily to change hard set thinking pattens.

[blueonblack22]

*at heart

[JacobJordan]

@blueonblack22 indeed it is and as you can also attest age and wisdom clears an ego. A lot of times people with egos won't know and most won't tell them because they find it too exhausting especially when that person doesn't yet have the tools for introspection to accept that they might in fact have that ego people are telling them about. It is good to hear that you realized it I have known some people that it took being genuinely confronted with proof of their ego to see they had one so you ahead in that sense already. And yeah I absolutely agree many modern women and some modern men enjoy drama way to much for it to be healthy

[blueonblack22]

@jacobjordan you have to realize that @SolitarySolace has a point on this though. It’s easier for a man to have a girlfriend or wife stick up for him when he’s in a situation where it’s impossible to fight back (other women attacking him). But what about single men? Most women look the other way but the brave few who do stand up for the guy need to be 100% commended. And guys like myself have to thank them.

I had an incident like this happen a few years ago at a social outing. The girl who stood up for me also wanted to take me home. I was grateful for her help but it was an awkward situation because I wasn’t attracted to her (at all).

It’s exceedingly rare for a woman to stick up for a man against another woman if she’s not herself interested in the guy. But women will can always depend on men for protection regardless if it benefits “the hero” or not.

[JacobJordan]

@blueonblack22 oh very much so. I was also pointing out that there is a growing number of women who do call out the bs. I think many guys are rightly or wrongly frustrated at how slowly it is going because in the meantime they have to deal with the abuse that is entirely false which isn't fair to anyone

[blueonblack22]

@jacobjordan in any war men are the first casualties. Things won’t change until a viable percentage of women realize what’s happening will ultimately harm them. A growing minority of insightful ones are seeing this though. But still a minority unfortunately.

[JacobJordan]

@blueonblack22 well yes and no. Most women see it the shitty women just like shitty men are the minority. However unlike men a minority of those women that see it say anything about it. Where as men do we always have whether we wanted to or not. Most of us feel an innate wrong with allowing the hate some men direct at women so we say something. Women do not have that in the same way we do.

[blueonblack22]

“ Most of us feel an innate wrong with allowing the hate some men direct at women so we say something. Women do not have that in the same way we do.”

100% agree with that. Women usually think the other woman has a “justified emotional reason” to mistreat other men. But men have far less tolerance for tolerate shitty men mistreating woman even IF we understand how the other guy feels we won’t allow it. If we do allow it then it makes US look bad.

[SolitarySolace]

No matter what men do we will always look bad because women exist and will make us look bad

[JacobJordan]

@blueonblack22 "Women usually think the other woman has a “justified emotional reason” to mistreat other men." Couldn't have said it better and i think that may be the crux of much of the problems. My parents are old-school (obviously they're old given I am almost 40 🤣) one thing parents that age imparted was how to treat people cause you look at I don't know 80%? 85%? Of the disrespect and it comes from kids raised by gen x parents maybe early millenials. And has persisted into gen z and alpha. Very rare to deal with that from older women born gen x/baby boomers. I can with some amount of confidence say that my generation was the last to be taught how to treat a person. For example many women I have met my age do not see it as "justified" however that is a very common phrase to hear from early 30s, 20s. Part of why I worked as hard as I did to retire when I did was because I wanted to ensure I could help my wife raise our children properly. I say help because the wife provided most of the emotional intelligence the father provides the emotional stability and physical energy. As things stand right now my oldest just turned 6 is better behaved than almost all 6 year olds in this part of the world and light years ahead of the US. We will see as time goes on but my hope is that by being a family it showcases that the biggest thing missing from today's society is precisely that. Family

[blueonblack22]

@jacobjordan I’m from the same generation and I agree. But a lot of this bullshit did start from leftist radicals who were part of our generations.

I too was taught “chivalry” but that got exploited. There was definitely a general naivety from my fathers generation about how things would change for young men and not for the better.

[JacobJordan]

@blueonblack22 very true. I remember up until probably 2010 or so I was always quite the chivalrous gentleman then I had some absolute loon start screaming at me because I tried to hold the door open for her. I didn't say anything because then I hadn't quite realized that I didn't have to stay quiet. Couple more times and I snapped back and once I did that I realized there was no going back. So now I still do all the chivalrous stuff but if you cop an attitude you going to catch one right back. Even growing up there was definitely a very different layers of parenting between my peers I realized a lot of the girls were getting into what 3rd wave feminism? When things started going bad. That was rough to watch girls you had known from childhood suddenly regurgitating some seriously bizarre statements those same women got married to some poor sod and had kids and then got divorced and remarried. Those kids typically grew up a complete mess. Meanwhile I made the realization that I would have better luck with a foreign girl and came across one in the US. Kind of ironic how that worked out. Thing is my wife and I we are seeing all these people struggling in so many ways and we know what the answer is and we are just trying to get people to see it some do most don't still

[blueonblack22]

I usually do MUCH better with foreign women.

Anyway what was so tragic and f*cked up about our generation is it had this extremely toxic mixed messaged approach of teaching many boys chivalry, those boys/young men getting raked over the coals for it and the older generations being tone deaf on what was really going on. My parents really dropped the ball on this big time. Especially my mother. They just say “oh plenty of fish in the sea” or “oh it’s just her problem. Forget about it and move on” or “just ignore women who disrespect you”. Their generation wasn’t absolutely NO where close to what we are dealing with. The term “friend zone” didn’t even exist in our common vernacular. I had to explain that concept to my dad a few years ago and he was completely mystified that some women will see chivalry as weakness.

Anyway congrats on finding someone decent. Good convo. But again I still believe all male complaints about the severe damage modern feminism has done will continue to fall on deaf years. Not until more women realize that if men fail then WOMEN ultimately fail.

[Messiking]

In fact, men maintain this world and schould rebel, because feminists always rebel when they don't like something. In my opinion, men should fight for their rights and do the same as feminism. In my opinion, hatred in the media is divisive, but the gender war is pointless, the only point is that if men do not demand their rights, they will be pushovers. I am for true equality and not privileging someone. because feminist equality is actually privileges for women and discouraging women from men, and therefore men from women. this world is heading in a very bad direction.

[SolitarySolace]

Because it’s easy to get away with. It’s not like people are going to come to the aid of a man who is being talked down to by a woman. I’m fact, there are men out there who feel the need to protect bad women from good men. You’re not gonna know which is which though. And apparently men can’t fear women without being laughed at or ridiculed for fearing the weaker sex. Most men seem to think of you can’t beat ‘em join em. That mentality is dogshit in this case. Men are cowards

[msc545]

well said!

[ManOnFire]

This has been going on for decades, not just modern day times. They hate hearing it, but feminists were the pioneers of hating men. They seemed to think that hating men was the answer to women being treated better. And so it stuck.

However, men in high positions have also honored this hate by allowing women to do and say what they want, because these men feel like "it's only fair."

[SolitarySolace]

Men are cowards for refusing to put bad women in their place

[ManOnFire]

@SolitarySolace Yessir, you just spat fiery facts.

[laly520]

also popular to hate on women n on anyone whos different

nth new

[SweetDripp]

There is a very small, but very vocal segment of society that hate on men. There is also a corresponding segment of society that hate on women. Basically it comes down to the fact that some people need to blame others for everything that is imperfect in their lives. Rather than taking responsibility for their own actions or understanding that others with competing interests will sometimes infringe on their interests, they look for others to blame.

[SolitarySolace]

So when I was falsely accused and she got away with it and I had to drop out of school it was my fault?

[SweetDripp]

@SolitarySolace I don’t know your circumstances or the motivations of whoever you feel wronged you, but one person wronging you doesn’t make every woman an evil, vindictive person like you seem to believe.

[SolitarySolace]

If one woman uses the benefits put into place to be abused, other women will too.

[SweetDripp]

@SolitarySolace So, if one man murders someone, you think it’s reasonable for me to claim all men are killers?

[SolitarySolace]

That's in no way the same

[SweetDripp]

@SolitarySolace It’s EXACTLY the same. You are taking the actions of one person and drawing the conclusion that every person that shares a characteristic with that person (in this case gender) will act the same way.

[SolitarySolace]

There are laws against murder. There aren't laws against abusing laws put in place to protect women.

[SweetDripp]

@SolitarySolace There are laws against wrongly accusing someone of a crime.

[SolitarySolace]

Not in my case there wasn't

[SweetDripp]

@SolitarySolace Vindictive people use the law as a weapon all of the time. Heck, look at political rivals constantly using the law to hamstring opponents. But vindictiveness isn’t a gender thing. It’s not all women just like it’s not all men.

[SolitarySolace]

Than why was the #metoo Movement and # believe all women a thing if it's both genders doing such things?

[genericname85]

because society is slowly spiraling into a fascistic minority dictatorship. it's like hitlers fascism but the "enemy" aren't the jews this time around. it's cis white men. and it's not just germany this time around. it's the entire western world. and it's not an orchestrated conscious effort either. it's more and more people falling sick to this mind virus of empathy based oppression of alternative ideas and thoughts.

[Inbox]

The West is a matriarchy now - looking forward to China waking us up finally (even though I don't think they will win this new Cold War).

[genericname85]

@Inbox i think they will win. but not with "war". they'll fuck us up economically. remember the chip shortage that forced the western tech industries to it's knees in the covid times? imagine they suddenly start an embargo, stop sending us the tech and start using it only for themself. we're completely fucked then. they don't even need to bomb us.

[Inbox]

As a finance and geopoilitical analyst guy, there's WAY too much to unpack here, but the basic idea is that while China is ahead in a number of areas, China depends on exports to survive. Currently, it's present economic chaos is being caused by a # of factors, but it is attempting to enter into a high income type of country which may not succeed due to a # of reasons.

One of them, which I think as a German you'd appreciate, is that Xi is a dictator. Dictators really screw up a country badly and to put a long story short, China is facing a systematic breakdown because dictators are well known for their jealousy, obsessive control, and never get the truth.

[genericname85]

@Inbox yeah as a German indeed appreciate dictators. That's why I'm so happy that we have the eu dictatorship now. This entire democracy nonsense didn't work out anyway. And yes I'm being sarcastic xD

[Inbox]

I meant that you'd appreciate the POV. I didn't mean anything racist, my bad bro.

[genericname85]

@Inbox nono :D i was just joking. no offense taken man xD i was just complaining a bit, that being in the EU is pretty much actually like living in a dictatorship at the moment.

[Inbox]

So you’d agree with Brexit?

[genericname85]

@Inbox absolutely. it fucks brittain people in the short term but that's totally worth it considering they're finally free of the EU dictatorship...

[normalice]

It isn't. Redpill weirdos say it is but thats just because they know no one is stupid enough to vote republican based on merit..

[Flatmanlewis]

I don’t think redpill nuts have a politician loyalty. They are literally nut jobs and fall all over the political spectrum. Insecure, loser, angry, socially awkward woman-hating, male is not the exclusive domain of any particular political party. Despite your seemingly apparent hate for the right, people with mental health issues occupy many, many, groups within society. None are exempt.

[normalice]

@Flatmanlewis they are heavily tilted to the right. It could easily go either way, true, but far right billionaires are the ones funding the effort to keep the redpill weirdness relevant so the suggestion to tilt right gets woven into the ambience.

[Flatmanlewis]

Dunno. Met some pretty pathetic dudes in my day and truth be told most of them didn’t follow politics one bit. I’d love to see some source materials. Did a pretty in-depth study of the incel movement for work and didn’t see much political alignment there. Read a few manifestos and psyche profiles.

[normalice]

@Flatmanlewis for one thing, there are two competing ways an incel might want to change society to stop being an incel. One is to more tightly control what women are allowed to think and prefer. The other is stop demeaning women for having all the sex they want because then they might have sex with more people. Control of women is decidedly right wing. Sexual liberation is decidedly left with. Incels heavily prefer the former.

For another thing, all of the redpill thought leaders are right wingers. The most important step of any scam is to not reveal what you are really after. If these leaders actually wanted to tilt their followers to the right, the last thing they would do is be obvious about it.

And last, I can't speak to your experience but every redpill person I've talked to online is far right. A sparse few claim to be of the left, but if you ask them what is the most important political issue they will say something like trans athletes in women's sports. Whereas things like taxing the rich to combat global corruption, while they agree, don't matter really. If a person like this votes at all, they will vote republican.

[Katebfun]

How so explain? I know men allow their big Ego and Pride from admitting any pain they caused another. Some are selfish narcs too.

[TonyMetal___86]

What about women who hurt men and act as if they are the victims...

[bobby_bush_eater]

Feminism being so widely accepted and slowly warping into the disgusting ideology that it is today. Modern women feeling the need to elevate themselves above men at the expense of men...

[dustybiker2]

If something annoys a person they tend to hear that specific thing more often. Doesn't make it rampant if that person is tuning out all the other hate in the world.

[SnackTime]

I guess it’s just an online phenomenon. When I drive by a dance club at night, I see 200 men and 200 women standing in the line that’s 8 miles long, just Waiting to get in.

[Agape93]

Same reason guys have always hated on women. Because people are assholes

[WhyohWhy69]

It isn’t. Men hated on everyone for so long people started to be more frank with them. Of course, every school yard bully is insecure. So, those men start to play the victim card.

[robhazelnut]

Generally it's only with a sense of protection. Most people won't walk up to a man they don't know and start insulting him.

[robhazelnut]

There are many potential influences on the act of insulting, such as narcissism, panic, sociopathy, greed, bribery and even coercion. By it's very nature, it's false, because it's an attempt to paint a falsely negative picture.

[Smashingdoozy]

Calling men out for shitty behaviour is not hating on them for simply existing.

[SolitarySolace]

But calling out ALL men not just the bad ones? That’s not helping anyone that’s misandry

[Smashingdoozy]

@SolitarySolace C'mon you can't be that silly? Do I really have to roll out the examples?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

There is a difference between calling out someone for their shitty behavior and to actually call out men for their shitty behavior. If you cannot see it then maybe you're the problem

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara there's literally no difference. I will call out anyone who exhibits shitty behaviour, man or woman.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Calling out a man and a woman for their shitty behavior is also different from calling out a man for their shitty behavior.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Also I see you've changed your sentence at the last minute. Weren't you saying men not men or women?

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara you're making no sense please elaborate on what you mean.

I said that calling men out for shitty behaviour is not hating on them for just existing. To further my point I mentioned that I also call out women when they exhibit shitty behaviour.

[SolitarySolace]

I have yet to see the proof of you calling out women

[Aiko_E_Lara]

"calling men out" that's the problem here. It's only now you like to contradict things by including women into this now.

[Smashingdoozy]

@SolitarySolace well we have only ever interacted on here, so that's not surprising...

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara dude I have 0 patience for your bullshit today.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Because i made a point. Yeah I get it. That's always your go to typical response when you can't admit you're in the erongy

[Aiko_E_Lara]

*wrong

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You have 0 patience for my bs but you have all the patience to start bs. Why is that?

[SolitarySolace]

You have plenty of opportunity to do as you claim and call out women here on GAG you just refuse to because you’re a FUCKING LIAR

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara no you're trying to twist my words which are very clearly written. Trying to get some sort of power trip. It's stupid as fuck.

[Smashingdoozy]

@SolitarySolace I've called out plenty of women on gag 😊

[SolitarySolace]

I have yet to see proof

[Smashingdoozy]

@SolitarySolace you're welcome to go back through my years of answers to questions and comments to find out for yourself.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

That's what you always accuse people of. What else is clearly written is you're only talking about wanting to call out men but only later say women when I pointed it out. Yet according to you it's "twisting words". What if I just straight up say your statement is stupid? That would only backfire your own logic.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara where did I say that I *only* call out men for shitty behaviour? Please do tell me 🙃

You didn't point out shit. You refuse to explain what your nonsense comment meant and just continue to try have "gotcha' moments that you've gaslit into existence.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

There goes that classic "i never said only" card. You know what, I can just say I like women for people to imply I'm straight. So how about if I say women are stupid. But hey I never said "only" before you get mad. You also don't need to say 1 + 1 is equal to only 2. So there you have it. I just simply pointed out that difference you still fail to see. So if you like to call out a specific group of people for their shitty behavior, I'd suggest you could be the problem

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Yeah if someone say women are stupid you would automatically assume that he's being a misogynist right? But he never said only so how come?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

In short, the sentence "Women are stupid" is not misogynistic because it doesn't have "only" in it. So that's your logic?

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara Where did I say anything bad about men? 🙂 How does me saying "calling men out for shitty behaviour is not hating on them for simply existing" = "I don't call out women for shitty behaviour "

I was answering a damn question, get over yourself.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I never said you were saying anything bad about men. It's only the fact that you don't know the difference and now you're interpreting it as "I don't call out women for shitty behaviors" is the problem here. I'm pretty much just pointing out your big flaw here making it sound like you're the problem. So get over yourself

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I mean your logic still saying that just because it doesn't have "only" in it doesn't mean you're not talking about both. So therefore I gave you an example of another statement.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara so what's your original point?
"There is a difference between calling out someone for their shitty behavior and to actually call out men for their shitty behavior. If you cannot see it then maybe you're the problem"

The fuck does this even mean?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

It's the same as there's a difference between saying I hate women and I hate everyone. Just like there is a difference between a misogynist and a hater. It's not rocket science

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Another analogy would be if I say I support men vs I support everyone. There's a difference between masculinism and equality. Seriously it's a no-brainer.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara yeah so why are you mad? You're reading my opinion like it's a statement not an answer to a question.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I'm just pointing out the difference here so I can ask you why are you mad? I mean nobody's allowed to criticize your opinion when you're saying it publicly?

[Aiko_E_Lara]

If that's the case then you can keep your mouth shut.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara but you don't disagree with my opinion. At least that's not what you said. You made the assumption that I only call out men on shitty behaviour, which again I never said. I think that people in general should be called out on their shitty behaviour, not specifically men. Which it seems like you agree with that. I'm sure you also agree that calling people out does not mean that you hate everyone, or maybe you do 🤷🏻‍♀️

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Nobody has to agree with your opinion. I want disagree with calling men out but I would agree with calling anyone out. Because I am not one sided. It's not even an assumption when the analogy I stated still stands. So if your logic is saying that just because you're not saying "only" means you're not being one-sided then anyone saying women are dumb are not misogynists because they never said "only" they would just be a straight up hater to anyone.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

So if you want to defend yourself because you never said only, You're forgetting that they're also other things that you never said. Like including your mom or including women. Also including yourself. That's something you also never said

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara why do you always have to fight? It's always something with you.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

More like why do I always have a point. Look it's only a "fight" if it gets on your nerves. It's nobody's fault you don't have a thick skin. You're seeing something and everyone can hear it so like what I said, if you don't want anyone to hear you you can just go back to your safe space and let the grown-ups talk

[Aiko_E_Lara]

You're *saying something.

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara your points are literally always pointless. We almost always agree on whatever point you're trying to make but you just make it out like I'm "changing my opinion ". You literally just cannot accept that I agree with you and that's the issue here.

[Aiko_E_Lara]

I was exactly expecting that kind of response. "You didn't prove anything" then prove to me that I have never proven anything thus elongating this thread even longer. And aren't you the one saying you have no patience for this? Sweet sweet irony. You have no point saying you agree with me when you're saying my points are pointless. So you technically agreed with something what you think is pointless? Lol that's just like agreeing a contract that you have no idea could ruin your life. So I don't buy it that you're just agreeing with me or you are really that stupid

[Aiko_E_Lara]

Or if you're agreeing with the phrase "calling out anyone for their bad behavior" You've never agreed the difference was between "calling out anyone vs calling out a man" so you technically didn't agree with me when I said there is a difference. So in short I could have just said no you didn't agree with me and don't elaborate because apparently this is too much for your small brain to process

[Smashingdoozy]

@Aiko_E_Lara quoting something that wasn't said is weird...

My point= everyone should be called out for shitty behaviour.
🙂 I'm done

[DextroShade]

Feminism and social media have encouraged it, which is why we need guys like Andrew Tate and Myron Gaines.

[OddBeMe]

There isn’t. there's a demand from men for this content.

Which like populism, is common when other communities get more rights. Not more than men. Just more for them. And men get angry. And stabby.

[itsclearlynicholas]

I've certainly felt it many times yet I'm not gonna play victim card. Anyhow, it's just the way times are and times change again. ♂️♂️♂️👀😋

[grega239]

Because the haters have become too comfortable doing it.

can't wait when it backfires

[RingOfFire]

Nothing new really. It's envy because men are designed by nature to be the leaders.

[nawtee_me]

Because hate, hates…. When one group complains enough that hate moves on to another group. Hate can only serve by hating….

[LiamJHayden]

Other than the Clementine Ford-types I really don't see that.

[JesseP1nk]

i dont care what they think or love/hate since men are the ones who provide them a security.

[SolitarySolace]

Maybe we shouldn’t be providing them security. They think the world should revolve around them maybe they should start fending for themselves

[JesseP1nk]

@SolitarySolace Those people are also our mothers, sisters, daughters. Just because they are naive does not mean they do not deserve security.

[SolitarySolace]

Maybe only give those in your family security not random ass women who don’t deserve it

[Anonymous]

Probably because women feel that men are more privileged than they are.

[TonyMetal___86]

For real? With what are they privileged? You must try to live as a man for a year or 2 to see how privileged he is 😏

[Opinion Owner]

@TonyMetal___86 well there was a question asked so I answered. Why don’t you ask feminists the question? Don’t shoot the messenger.

[TonyMetal___86]

I'm not the asker, shoot on the asker not me, just wrote an opinion about what you said 😏

[MadhuriDixit]

I love men ❤️
Screw Femcels.. they'll die alone

[SolitarySolace]

Unfortunately they won’t there are dumbass cowardly men out there who defend femcels femcels just push these men away on purpose while in the spotlight and fuck em behind closed doors

[TonyMetal___86]

@madhuridixit good girl

[The_Sexpert]

Maybe it's said to be empowering for women?

[SolitarySolace]

Bingo

[Ashley1993]

Pseudo feminism

[Chelsdope0]

Because you guys simply suck.

[TonyMetal___86]

Not good suckers as you are 🤣

[Chelsdope0]

What?

[IslaTheWitch]

I didn't notice any hate towards men...

[TonyMetal___86]

I guess in poland women adore men and the feminazis disease haven't reached them yet, right? 🤣🤣

[Pinay_ako]

I don’t hate men. I love men.

[_no_one_]

Coz we take shit

[TonyMetal___86]

Other than feminazis, who does it?

[zagor]

I don't feel hated.

[Anonymous]

It's not. Go touch grass.