Things men hate in current modern women:
1. Double standards. Women want equality in areas they were at a disadvantage in but yet want special treatment in areas that they benefit from.
2. Inability to accept the faults of your gender. When men bring up shitting behaviour that is more common in women than men, the go to response by women is to deny that it is so or try to equalise it as equal among the genders to make the behaviour normalise and acceptable.
3. Flaking is annoying and far to common among women of this generation.
4. Sloots gonna Sloot. Cock Carousal. Alpha FUX/BETA BUX.
5. Out of control hypergamy and ridiculous standards
6. Nasty rudeness towards men you don't find attractive approaching you.
7. Mind games and texting games BS.
8. Calling guys creepy for showing attraction towards you just because you don't find them attractive and then going one step further and spreading rumors about him behind his back.
9. Using guys for attention/free meals when you don't have any attraction towards him.
10. Princess syndrome
11. Gold digger mentality
12. Double standard of making one guy wait for weeks/months for sex but giving it up to Tyrone/Chad/Jamal date one. if sex is special why give it up to these guys first?
13. Monkey branching and constantly wanting to trade up even while in a relationship.
14. Making decision based on "It feels right" and not using logic which often at times may have bad long term consequences.
15. Rudness and hostility of women for guys approaching/talking/staring at them briefly just because you don't find them attractive.
16. The alienation women do towards guys they don't find attractive. An attractive guy who are friends with some good guys who aren't so good looking spoke about how he would see women straight up move away from an area where his friends danced as if they were lepers. These guys weren't hitting on them and were just trying to enjoy the scene.
17. Lack of femininity and more masculine traits.
18. Inability to cook/clean.
I certainly don't hate any women, but from what I've seen men are feeling less and less needed. The phrase "I'm a strong and independent woman and I don't need anyone" is a lovely idea but it carries some quite depressing implications for men. The very definition of man is someone who is capable of taking care and protecting his wife/gf/partner. The moment a woman says "I don't need a man to take care of me", the role the guy has accepted in nature becomes meaningless and all of his willingness to make sacrifices loses it's value. Men have never had any problems admitting we need help from women. Are you kidding me? Thank God for women! But when an entire generation of (very vocal) women treat us as if we're some sort of enemy and tell us to get lost when we're genuinely interested in them... well you get where I'm going. I've seen women react with such hostility toward a well-meaning decent men that the guys don't even want to approach them anymore. And I won't even comment on complete destruction of the family system or mainstream feminists who call for mass extermination and sterilization of men (yes I couldn't believe that too). So hate isn't really the word. More like disappointment and withdrawal. There are literally millions of men, who don't want to be with women simply because it's no longer worth the risk.
"Your behavior today is not of a lady. This been going for thousands of years. Your main problem is you what to be the center of everything. It calls me, myself, and I. Self-center people are problems"
I American family man of God word. My goodly English is my first language. Many women like to see genital of little boy in changing room. It not bad. Women are problem because they not treat men with great honor. You what everything you own way.
Many family member shower and masturbate together. It not sexual it from God word. You are joke. :)
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Well. In fairness to the blokes modern women hate men too if we will make generalistic statements.
In the same way there are some twatty men there are testy women. The type who brag for "equality" when really they want superiority for women. The type who kick off a door was held open for them (when it's good manners not gender related) and kick off if you let it hit them in the face.
I'm pretty glad I'm not a guy. And I'm also pretty glad I'm a fairly laid back woman in those terms. Modern women are nightmares.
Some women want equal rights but not equal responsibility, which can definitely rub guys the wrong way (understandably so). Not all women are like this, but some guys have the impression that all of us are.
Some men think women are manipulative, or too high maintenance to bother with.
Some men think women are too picky, but they usually think this just because they're frustrated that they're not in a relationship. They often don't realize that men are picky too and we don't get every guy we want either.
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It's hard to know where to start. Before I do though, I must mention that I'm in a happy relationship and am engaged to one of the very few good women I've ever met. This doesn't come from being a bitter virgin or because I can't get laid or whatever, just my experiences with women in general - and obviously I don't mean ALL women. I also don't think that modern men are faultless either, but this is a question about women.
Equal rights without equal responsibility is a big one. So many women here for example are all for equality, except when inequality benefits them - then all of a sudden they're "traditional ladies". It's just annoying to see feminist women say they expect a man to pay. They complain about inequality elsewhere, then they mock and insult guys who complain about this and act all smug because they know they can get away with it. It's just blatantly hypocritical and very annoying. Even worse is when they downplay other more serious male issues such as domestic violence or even become hostile towards men who bring it up. One I saw recently was where they downplayed the effect of paternity fraud on a man, and said that if he would leave a woman with a child, who'd lied to him that he was the Father when he wasn't, that he's a heartless asshole. As if his pain doesn't matter. Then you have bias in divorce courts, child custody, again women don't seem to care that these things are unequal, they take advantage of these things and call men who complain about it losers.
In dating, they do often choose the wrong guys and reward bad behaviour while shitting on nice guys. I don't mean to say that women should be forced to go out with boring guys, wimpy guys etc. But I see genuine guys get shit on all the time and these assholes who girls go for, then complain when it goes to shit. These women again mock guys who mention this, one girl here just mocked guys who say they were dumped for being "too nice" - I actually was once told that bu a woman after she cheated on me. She now has 3 kids all to different men who have nothing to do with them, her life is shit because she made such bad choices. While I have a good girlfriend and two great kids, but I'm the one to be mocked. That's the stupidity of modern women.
I don't hate women. I don't hate anyone in fact. That said, there are major problems with both sexes these days, especially women.
Yes as you stated in the poll they do want to act like men. They want to be the bread winners, want to call all the shots, some want to sleep around and cuss like sailors (neither of which I condone for either sex), but that's male oriented behavior.
Yes they want, no have, more than equal rights, with not close to equal resopnsiblilty and I would add accountability.
Yes many are demanding.
But there's far more and worse than this stuff:
I know a lot of chicks are going to flip out when I say this and I really don't care. They don't know their place in a marriage anymore. They hen peck and nag to death their husbands, want more and more and more and nothing is ever good enough, they don't want to be submissive, in short many constantly and consistently want to usurp their husband. I believe the man is the head of the home, and that God called the man to lead, protect and provide for his wife and family. That leading should be done with humility, and gentleness and kindness, with respect, but none the less he should lead. Can't lead when you have 2 bulls in the barn. Someone has to lead and someone has to follow. Doesn't mean the wife has no input or say. A wise husband ought to get his wife's opinions on things, but I do believe he has to make the final call. Can't do that when the wife wants to be the head of the house.
Women seem not to care how they do or don't respect their husband or treat him. Why should they? If they're not happy, they'll just divorce him and walk away with cash and prizes. The courts will give her the children in most cases, alimony (WTF is that? Payment for previous use of ones vagina? She can pay her own bills like before they got married) and half of everything, but since women don't normally make as much as men, they take half out, but didn't put half in.
They're standards are insane. So many girls that are overweight, like a 5/10 in looks, no job, no car, live with parents, and refuse to date a guy who doesn't make 6 figures, look like a model, and drive a BMW. I'm being a little scarcastic here, but my point is in romance everyone has market value and you can't be Baltic Ave on a Monopoly board and think you deserve a Park Place boyfriend. So many girls think they're all that and are not only not all that, they're not even worth considering.
I need way more space to finish.
I don't hate women, however, altering the question to Western women:
Most Western women of all races are infected, to varying extents, with Feminist Derangement Syndrome (FDS), a self-imposed mental illness which makes them socially hazardous, unfulfilling and ill suited to being wives and mothers. They are a societal blight which is undermining western culture and they must be quarantined and prevented from raising and teaching children. They buy us with easy, adventurous sex but gradually reveal themselves, thinking we will be sympathetic to their ideology in the name of "equality". If you listen carefully, you will hear evidences of it right from the beginning. They won't conceal it because they believe we are a captive market. At any time, men can retake control over them simply by rejecting them at the first hint of the infection. Let them die alone cuddled up to their rabbit vibrators. The good news is that there is a cure: Healthy, happy alternatives. But you are going to have to put time and expense into the cure, which will always be less costly than divorce and child support.
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They are the real MGTOW. You feel like you are cheating fate every day.
Women demand equality but when it comes to romance and sex the guy is the one who has to put in all the effort, if you don't ask her out and plan a fun date and pay for both people you get ghosted and we wasted our time and money for nothing, it's emotionally exhausting and it makes us not want to even bother because yeah not all women are like that, but how much time and money and emotional energy do we need to waste before we can find someone who isn't just a spoiled, self centered brat? I've got bills to pay, girls can go out with as many guys as they want but as a guy I can't justify the expense of paying for two people every time I think a girl is cute when most girls aren't even worth dating. What are women doing wrong? They're making themselves hard to like, and they're not offering anything worthwhile to men. It's a shame because I don't want to be bitter about women, I'm naturally compelled to want to date them but it's just impossible to ignore the fact that the cost/benefit analysis is skewed heavily against dating. What can you do about it? You can take the initiative sometimes, even if you get rejected sometimes, you can learn to see dating as a two way street instead of something the guy does for the girl. You can pay for your own food and movie tickets like an adult. As long as women take more than they give, there will be men who are upset about it.
Well, I voted for B but most men don't hate women. Unfortunately the FI has ruined the attitudes for women so the tend to suffer more now than ever before in history - even before they were 'equal'. But I digress.
Many women think that if they are as 'good as a man' then men will like them. Not so much. It's not to say that women can't do things as well as men, but that is not what impresses them, and the harder the women try the more frustrated they are because the men aren't just falling all over them.
A woman needs to be a woman too. They need to be soft and pretty, loving and demure, quiet and polite, and happy to be with her man. Most importantly she needs to respect him for whatever he can do, otherwise the relationship will be short lived. Women that down-trod their man and belittle him, disrespect him as a man, learn to hate him as well. It can get really ugly. In many cases those relationships can never be restored.
So no, men don't really hate women, but for the most part women are still not really clear about what men like. Pretty amazing really.
We dont hate women. We dislike modern day feminism, the male bashing. The default victimization of women, the selective "equality" the lack of accountability and responsibility it gives women. Drama, drama drama. The fact that it ignore that both men and women face unfair laws or social standards. Maybe not to the same degrees or same situations, they are there either way. The who men are the reason the world is dangerous and unequal. Expecting world to change based on insecurities yet want to be seen as a powerful force ( strong independent woman, yet insists on have "safe paces" ) demonizing men and masculinity, while at the same time going on about how there is not enough men in the world. Want everything simply giving to them simply based on gender alone. ) Self objectifcation vs media objectifcation. Objectifcation is bad, but can't keep changing what if mean to objectify. Need clear set standards and situations.) Wanting equal rewards without equal effort. Feminists in countries like america refusal to check their privilege. Heck nowaday a girl can cut off or set a man genitals on fire and only receive minimums consequences.
Not many men actually 'hate women'.
The problem for a great many men is the way that Marxist Feminist loons have used their political influence to affect changes to the systems of our society, so that males are discriminated against in education (pedagogy, curriculum, behaviour standards and places), employment (gender quotas, etc) and family law (grotesque and unconcealed discrimination against men).
The Feminist loons are even criminalising normal heterosexual interaction between the sexes. For example, the insanity of 'affirmative consent'. In Nottinghamshire, England, there is a law that was introduced on the pretext of countering street harassment, but it was worded so broadly that merely asking a woman on a date, or approaching a woman in a bar, can result in the man being charged with an Orwellian hate crime and locked away.
See: www.theguardian.com/.../nottinghamshire-police-count-wolf-whistling-hate-crime
The result of all these things (and more) is that women have priced themselves out of the market, in terms of surviving a rational cost/risk/benefit equation.
Consequently, a significant and increasing number of men are taking a decision to walk away from women, at least as much as that is possible in a society that is about 50 per cent female.
It is from this that Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) comes.
I don't hate, my friends don't hate... but we have a lot of faith shattering experiences with women.
100% of the women that I've dated or better for 6 months to 5+ years have cheated on me.
My friend joined the marines and he lost the house, 3 cars, the savings, and lost the kidney that HE gave to his wife. All because she took his money and paid not a single bill with it. She kept it. (WT... phhhh dude...) and still even after she stole from him and caused him to loose everything he only wanted to separate rather than seek vengeance.
yet i've stories that I could tell for probly 2-3 hours on this. Everything from faked pregnency's, to being used for my money, to hitting on every guy she can behind my back, and on and on... So yea, I don't have a lot of trust. I'm willing to build it and to prove my commitment to a women should I deem her worthy of my efforts, but I expect the same type of effort from her to build the trust and work to a future together. You could argue that i've strong expectations but I expect nothing that I can't provide in return. So I think this flat playing field is fair. I cook, clean, work, do laundery. I don't see gender roles or gender jobs, only work to be taken care of and someone to share my life and commitment with. Sure I could also go on about some certain special meat bag's that call them selves men but are a waste of human flesh. But I think it's important to find those special people and honor them with the kindness and respect they deserve for not being the kind of trash that plague the whole of human kind.
I don't hate women but I did check the box that said 'they are too demanding/complicated'.
That's because in my experience, the few women I have in my life have been very controlling and possessive, not in the aggressive domineering sense that a man can be but more in the sense of mollycoddling and being over protective, restricting my freedoms because it is supposed to be 'in my best interest'.
The women not in my life have proven to be complicated and extremely non-reciprocative in my advances to get to know them or be part of my life. Whenever I approach these women there is always something I am not doing right, or not everything is 'just so' with the way I try to talk to them or flirt, etc. so I have become extremely frustrated and the way it appears to me is that such women are only ever reciprocative to a man that knows how to 'take charge', play her psychological bullshit and constantly be breaking ground/pushing forwards interacting with her. Women always say things like, "oh no, I just want a guy that is respectful and slightly bashful" but this is a lie and such men get treated like shit all the time.
So basically, the women already in your life try to take charge in every aspect: the women not in your life don't want to even know. There is no middle ground with women today.
For me cause I lose female friends so often. I have to know someone before I even become attracted to them. So often when I ask if they would like to try dating. I lose them as a freind. Most slowly ghost me and then leave. Some just end the friendship right there. One stayed my freind and now were even better friends because of it.
I also hate that they are always saying what they want in a mate. When they say that they are really just describing what they think they want and what they want in a freind. They have no idea what kind of guys they like until they start dating that type.
They also don't say just No i'm not interested. They either insult you or just ignore you.
Other than that I'm good. Women are valuable friends to have.
It is not in the male nature to truly hate women , it is in out nature to protect if anything , very few men genuinely hate men , but on the flip side , a lot of women really do hate men , but that is mainly due to " media " male bashing & feminist propaganda.
As a FT working single dad , I have endured hostile treatment from women that have assumed I'm a sex predator and /or unfit parent simply for being male , even assaulted by a nasty young woman... for holding a door open for her. From my experiences , it seems that women value their fellow females much more than men , many men are simply tired of being treated like shit. We don't hate , we simply turn our backs & walk away.
I dont hate women just hate feminism.
no matter what I say they always come back with " ohh your just another sexist pig who doesn't understand feminism" but no I do.
I just think feminism is a very useless movement now a days. Sure it had it's place when women couldn't vote or work but now is very silly to follow a movement of equality when women have the advanatge in most things..
A woman might be selected for a high position in a company just because she is attractive. Alimony, they keep the kids and many more.
So why don't we just kill fewminism altogether and go back to normal things like both men and women cook (I'm a chef) girls now adays are lazy and won't cook or clean a house because they are lazy and then just blame it on " you are just degrading me cause I'm female"
Most men don't hate women. The only ones who do are the ones who have had no luck with women, have been hurt by women, or are just drama queens who like jumping on internet bandwagons. Most of us are actually more reasonable than that.
I don't think most do. I don't even think a lot that go apeshit sometimes on the internet do. I think some of it is guys just venting.
You ever have periods of "guys suck"? The internet is how guys let go of those feelings about girls.
For the ones that do I don't think it's increased it's just easier for them to express their feelings of hatred.
I love women! :) Even though I can't seem to ever get in a relationship :/ Oh well. Don't worry about it too much. You aren't as hated as you think you are.
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I think @mistixs is on to something there. Many women "want to have their cake and eat it too" when many don't realise that with more "power, come great responsibility" too (yes, I reference Spider-man on purpose).
The biggest thing that seems to be faulty in this women's right progression scenario is the dynamics of sexual interactions between men and women. No matter what strides we make, the dynamics still are primitive at the base. And unfortunately, it doesn't favour women in a good way.
The reason the sexual dynamics for men isn't that bad for men is because men are already seen as "vile and pigs" so it isn't so it isn't really doing anything if they are just sexually forward.
Attraction is a selfish game. No one cares as long as you aren't attractive to them.
Even more than their mothers, they are venal and readily sell themselves to Trump type guys, while putting down the rest of us in any way they can think of.. since they have to JUSTIFY behaving like that!
I'm talking US women here, it's not nearly so bad elsewhere. And of course, I"m talking about the mainstream, not cultural minorities, and not every mainstream girl by far is this way.
But among those with high positions in the academic or corporate world, those with money or access to it, they're pretty much this way.
The fact that "equal rights without equal responsibility" got the highest amount of votes, makes me mad. I'm so tired of that argument. Men want women to bear their own burdens on top of our own unique burdens as women (pregnancy, childbearing etc). That's unequal responsibility.
I love the ladies! I like the breasts and butts a lot, but not so big ones. I think that is one of the problems with modern women. Their boobs and butts are getting so big now. Apparently some guys like that, but I don't. I like a relatively normal size that's all proportional with the rest of the body.
They are too picky, don't hate them but it's hard to love them.
I'll put it in the words of my Grandfather. "In my day if you went up to a single girl, smiled, and asked if she would go steady with you and you would like to go out with her, she would think your a gentleman and say yes because you put effort into asking her out."
Nowadays that simply isn't good enough, why is dating SO complicated and girls over analyze everything guys do and vice versa?
Because of many women 's arrogance, lack of accountability and general inability to not judge but just appreciate and enjoy the guy they're with. Also most lack the maturity (regardless of age) to look at the big picture, have a positive mindset and see the best in people.
It really leaves a such shitty taste in our mouths and it's such a pain in the ass canal to deal with that we just stop giving a fuck about trying to put much effort into a relationship.
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