Hot take. China is actually a Fascist state today. Agree or disagree?

[Anonymous]

I know they still call themselves the CCP but it is just in name only. After the dumpster fire that is the one child policy which is caused by the famine that communism always creates.

Now we have a bunch of China-exclusive corporations like social media and Amazon equivalents that the government directly controls but they still have "CEOs".

Fascism is all about power to the corporations (called "trade unions" or "syndicates" in Mussolini's fascism) and through these corporations, the state has complete control over the economy, the social lives of their citizens and their behavior, as no competition to these corporations are allowed to exist to prevent defiance to this agenda.

[BCA6010]

Anytime you see the euphemism "public-private partnership," it's a more palatable, politically correct pitch for fascism. However, in most examples, it involves preexisting, already established corporations collaborating with governments, and historically has a very short lifespan before devolving into full on socialism. In china's case, the government itself is creating those corporations moreso to push their goals and influence overseas rather than domestically. This is also why globalists and proponents of the WEF's plans want to use specifically China's model to achieve a de facto world governing body.

[Asker]

Well, yes. Fascism under Mussolini was where the idea of the modern corporation came from, even if it started out as private, having any sort of association with the state with the exception of the basic compliance of the law where the rights of the individual is respected makes them public.

What China does is to have the corporations look like they are privately owned but they have an agent from the CCP working there to keep an eye on them to make sure they don't try anything funny. Once Musk took over Twitter, he revealed that we were doing the exact same thing (to those who were paying attention, this is not surprising at all) and he promptly got rid of the guy.

Thankfully, ever since the Epstein case, many more people are into questioning the government than people do in China otherwise we would never be hearing from Musk again as the government would promptly "disappear" him and either no one would care or are too scared to ask questions. It still happens all the time, just to lower profile people like the one whistleblower about to reveal some damning information about the Biden family and suddenly disappeared.

[Soteris]

That is the mildest of mild takes. If this take was a spice it would be flour.

[Asker]

Good. I am glad to hear that.

[WhitneySnow]

It’s a totalitarian government. Not technically fascist but still complete control by the state.

[Asker]

Of course it is a totalitarian government, any system of government where the government has ultimate power over everything within it will always use it to abuse those who are under them. Fascism is one of the types of totalitarianism and so is Nazism and communism. The only difference between them is the philosophy behind them, take it out and it is always power hunger over those beneath the elites.

So let me ask this: what isn't fascist about China today?

[WhitneySnow]

The philosophy behind it is communist. Fascism and certain forms of communism are two different forms of totalitarian governments.

[Asker]

How are there different forms of totalitarianism? It is all absolute state power over everything. Whether you are killing people over not sharing their production, helping the Jews escape the camps, or by trying to counter the corporations, it all comes down to absolute power from the state.

[Anonymous]

I agree, and it's not a bad system at all.

[Asker]

Yes it is. Any form of government with an immense amount of power will always abuse the shit out of their citizens while they gaslight them into believing that it is for their own benefit. It doesn't matter what the philosophy behind it or the methods that are used, you as a citizen will always suffer from a government that will never give a shit about you unless the people will give them something to fear if they cross the line.

[Opinion Owner]

I am a fascist. Power is everything and I want it. I won't tolerate dissent.

[Asker]

Alright then, feel free to move to China and see how you would like to live under someone like yourself and leave the US out of it because we don't want it.

[Opinion Owner]

Nah. I'll be the one crushing people under my boot, like the vermin that they are.

[Opinion Owner]

I'm not from the US and I have to say, you are the worst vermin of all.

[Asker]

Good, please stay the hell away from us. We have idiots like you in our government and that's why we are experiencing so many problems right now. We don't need more of you.