How close is America to having Morality Police?

[OddBeMe]

Yes, we’re closer than we think

Nah…

Other

[abc3643]

It's ALWAYS had an informal morality police. I mean, Jesus, morality is written into much of the law. If it wasn't, prostitution would be legal everywhere.

You need to listen to "Hook In Mouth" by Megadeth. It's still spot-on, but part of the lyrics are outdated; they mention PMRC.

The PMRC was the Parents Music Resource Center. It was founded by Tipper Gore (VP Al Gore's ex-wife) in 1985. Many music artists were pissed off about it including Frank Zappa who, I believe, testified before Congress about it along with Twisted Sister's Dee Snider. The big end result was that music companies put "Parental Advisory" stickers on records and CDs if the music had potentially objectionable lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/dGtqiS-MWIE

"Hook In Mouth" is from Megadeth's 1988 album "So Far, So Good... So What!".
It's the perfect song to energized to. Whenever I had a take a test, I'd play Metallica to get into "battle mode" but, later, it was always "Time to upgrade to Megadeth."
I remember getting a 100 on a test after looping "Hook In Mouth" that morning in Fall 1988 before studying for the big test.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/2ZqYtb94GqU

A cockroach in the concrete, courthouse tan and beady eyes
A slouch with fallen arches, purging truths into great lies
A little man with a big eraser, changing history
Procedures that he's programmed to, all he hears and sees
Altering the facts and figures, events and every issue
Make a person disappear, and no one will ever miss you
Rewrites every story, every poem that ever was
Eliminates incompetence, and those who break the laws
Follow the instructions of the New Ways' Evil Book of Rules
Replacing rights with wrongs, the files and records in the schools

You say you've got the answers, well who asked you anyway?
Ever think maybe it was meant to be this way?
Don't try to fool us, we know the worst is yet to come
And I believe my kingdom will come

F is for fighting,
R is for red
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed
E, we elect them,
E, we eject them
In the land of the free, and the home of the brave
D, for your dying,
O, your overture
M, they will cover your grave with manure
This spells out freedom, it means nothing to me
As long as there's a PMRC

F is for fighting,
R is for red
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed
E, we elect them,
E, we eject them
In the land of the free, and the home of the brave
D, for your dying,
O, your overture
M is for money and you know what that cures
This spells out freedom, it means nothing to me
As long as there's a PMRC

F is for fighting,
R is for red
Ancestors' blood in battles they've shed
E, we elect them,
E, we eject them
In the land of the free, and the home of the brave
D, for your dying,
O, your overture
M, they will cover your grave with manure
This spells out freedom, it means nothing to me
As long as there's a PMRC

Put your hand right up my shirt
Pull the strings that make me work
Jaws will part, words fall out
Like a fish with hook in mouth

Rewrites every story, every poem that ever was
Eliminates incompetence, and those who break the laws
Follow the instructions of the New Ways' Evil Book of Rules
Replacing rights with wrongs, the files and records in the schools

I'm not a fish
I'm a man

Hook

in

mouth!

[OddBeMe]

Well it ain’t John Lennon but ok. Lol

[Leapfrog00]

Hopefully never. America is already turning into a distopian novel with some of the politics who think they're invincible, and think it's ok to overturn an election by destroying national monuments. I read a book once where the Christians took over the government, and the country turned into one big political headquarters, and all hell broke lose. If American novels teach us anything, it should be 'Don't try to better America'. I have my weapon of choice incase people try to "Make America Great Again". There was nothing wrong with it in the first place. We Americans receive more freedom than most countries. Some people aren't even grateful for that though!

[OddBeMe]

Was there “something” wrong with America before the Civil Rights Act of 1965?

[Leapfrog00]

Many great changes for the better has occured throughout the years. Political figures attempting to rewrite the constitution are trying to corrupt America.

The Civil Rights movement was about people fighting for equal rights. There is still quite a bit of unfair advantages in America. I myself don't believe a person of white color is privileged over a person of black color.

I grew up in the foster system, and I worked for everything. I got nothing handed to me.

Back in the early 1900s, a person could come to America and become q citizen just by stepping on the land.

Slavery and the Civil Rights movent dates back way before the Civil War. Spain abducted hundreds of African citizens during the 16th century.

Trump's version of "Make America Great Again" was "It's Ok to make change, as long as it doesn't include immigrants" or the Latino population. That hat is racist in some parts of the country.

There have been many great changes to America for the better over the years, and for the better.

[OddBeMe]

I guess my point is you say “don’t make changes, America is fine”. Oh but civil rights was a good change. How do you know another good change isn’t coming?

[Leapfrog00]

Making change is like adding ingredients to a recipe. Add the right ingredients, it comes out fine. Add the wrong ones, it can collapse on itself.

A government usually lasts 250 years before it collapses. The united states is on year 247. A perfect government is never going to exist.

Changing the us constitution is the change these political figures are trying to make. I've seen other countries, I've been to other countries, and America is still a far better country to live in. There's more freedom here than any other county.

Rewriting the constitution will definitely change that, and not for the better. And a man getting elected with 37 indictments is an embarrassment. I guess integrity is a thing of the past.

But anyway, America is a country that needs to be left out of change. The country's going soft. Suddenly nobody cares about better education and more jobs anymore. Sounds like a civil war between left and the right fighting over abortion laws or illegal immigration. The United States has been in a national debt since the Obama administration, I don't know where all these people are getting their information from saying that Biden worsened the economy. This is only his first term. Takes longer than that to decline economy. I'm not a big fan of me and myself though.

I honestly believe it's going to get worse before it gets better. Sometimes it's best not to fix but isn't broken. United States never was perfect, but making too many changes could further worsen. the national debt

[OddBeMe]

Umm plenty of “governments” have technically been around for longer than 250 years. Britian for one. Obvi it changes over time. But its last civil war was a thousand years ago.

[Leapfrog00]

It's not that countries that go past 250 years no longer exist... It's the fact that they collapse. The united states is living proof of this.

'i'm assuming you're speaking of Great Britain, which has been around since the early 1700s. There are multiple governments under Great Britain, including whales, the Kingdom of England, and the Scottish government. It's not all Queen and country like people think. There are different political leaders, like the prime minister or chief of cabinet.

The United States is the only country in the world that has States and has one single federal government.

When it comes to the United Kingdom, in England there's a certain set of laws, but in Whales there's a completly different set, though some may be the same under UK law. Even Abraham Lincoln said a house divided cannot stand. If the us would drop the political parties and operate like other countries, it would fix a number of problems.
The u. s government had to shut down until next year due to funding issues. The house is starting to fall.

[OddBeMe]

How old is Britain’s monarchy?

[purplepoppy]

It wasn't that long ago women weren't allowed to wear trousers and men patrolled beached with tape measures to check swim suit lengths. Let's be honest there's plenty of you lot who want those days back.

[OddBeMe]

True! Good times….

[Avicenna]

As usual, you live in an alternate universe. The question you should be asking is6 "Is America close to having a Secret Police that targets political opponents".

And as regards morality, leftists are always forcing full acceptance of their latest craziness on everyone else.

[OddBeMe]

Ok, we go with your Q…and no. Or Trump would be in jail on day one of Biden’s presidency. But we have the 4th amendment and tons of unwritten laws that make it extremely hard to prosecute a former president. Yet it’s going to happen anyway, becuase what Trump did was soooo bad.

[Avicenna]

As usual, your Trump Derangement Syndrome keeps you from thinking about anything but him.

We have political prisoners (J6 protestors) who were hunted down by the FBI (aka the Secret Police). Obviously, you have no idea what a dictatorship is like so you can't see the signs. But look t the difference in the way that the Hamas-supporting Nazis who invaded the Capitol the other day were treated, or BLM/Antifa rioters. And we'v e had these political prisoners pretty much as long as Biden has been installed in the White House.

There is no such thing as an "unwritten law". And it isn't the Fourth Amendment protecting Trump- it's the fact that the Marxists targeting him have had to keep coming up with hoaxes since he actually didn't do anything to justify the malicious prosecutions.

[OddBeMe]

Protesters who beat police. And two died. Cop killers.

[Avicenna]

No police died that day because of the protestors (there were four suicides and a stroke victim), who certainly didn't all scrap with police. Can't you get your facts straight? Ashli Babbit was killed by a Capitol policeman though.

Ever heard of the right to speedy trial? Not for many of these political prisoners. But we know you don't care about the rights of people you don't like- you are the individual who called for stripping white Americans of their citizenship.

[OddBeMe]

So because one beaten cop died after midnight the Jan 6ers aren't cop killers?

[OddBeMe]

Crickets.

[exitseven]

No, the country is already too far gone. I expect prostitution to become legal. Drugs have been legalized or decriminalized. There is porn readily available the the stuff you see on cable would have got the local XXX movie house raided 50 years ago.

[msc545]

@exitseven fortunately it's not the 1950s anymore. Some drugs have been legalized and decriminalized because it cost too much money and it was a waste of time chasing people who wanted to use drugs. Similarly, prostitution has not been legalized but it is mostly over looked because what people do with their bodies is up to them. Nobody is harmed by this at all really and prostitution is a victimless crime and should be legalized everywhere. Neither of these things indicates that the country is falling apart as you suggest.

[exitseven]

@msc545 The country is falling apart you just don't notice it.

[msc545]

No, things are just not going your way. That is a problem for you, not the rest of us.

[exitseven]

@msc545 Things are not going good for most people. Most people want a change back to the good old days (pre Biden)

[OddBeMe]

The country is falling apart but @exitseven and his right wingers don’t notice it. 60%+ Americans have no higher education in a world of robotics making labor jobs useless. Infrastructure is collapsing because we keep giving our money to rich people instead of investing in roads and bridges.

[exitseven]

We are wasting money on wars that we have no stakecin and illegal aliens

[msc545]

Wars, yes. Aliens, no.

[exitseven]

@msc545 yes and space aliens too.

[Sasahara]

You already have SJWs act like wannabe morality police online. Wanna mod Skyrim to let you kill kids? Thats fine and dandy. Wanna mod Starfield to remove pronouns? Now thats too much and a banable offence. Because allowing someone to kill kids in a game is clearly morally better than allowing someone to remove pronouns from another game.

[Flatmanlewis]

Outrageous.

[Snakeyes7]

We had morality police during covid.

The UK has moraity policing on social media because some grandma refusing to use neopronouns are easier to take down then the pedophile rings that run the cities. I guess they have nothing better to do.

Social media uses morality for its ever evolving terms of service. Remember when we weren't allowed to question the WHO or else you'd get punished?

We have more of it than you think.

[OddBeMe]

I read about one case in the Netherlands about a court case involving pronouns. And it was tossed.

And during Covid, there was no morality police either. If anything anti maskers made their presence known to prove a point.

[Snakeyes7]

The fact that there was even a trial over pronouns implies the existence of morality policing, morality being that it was deemed immoral to refuse to play pretend with someone who has lost their sense of reality.

There was morality policing because the lockdowns were to prevent the spread of covid which implies that the spreading of the disease is immoral and a criminal act. According to the police where the lockdowns were actually present, who suddenly weren't bastards at that point, the violation of the lockdown meant that you are intending to spread the virus.

[OddBeMe]

Spreading a disease kills. So are cops who investigate murder “morality police”?

[Snakeyes7]

No, moral authoritarianism is authoritarianism based on a screwed up version or morality. Think the Salem Witch Trials and McCarthyism.

it's the whole idea of "you are killing grandma if you leave home without your papers AND a mask AND a shot that was made suspiciously fast by a greedy corporation with no known long term side effects" that is the part it crossed into morality policing.

[OddBeMe]

So there have been lots of regs regarding public schools and vaccines for children. Because we don’t want unvaxxed kids alongside potentially vulnerable ones.

[Snakeyes7]

These people knew all along that the vaccine didn't prevent transmission, that's why they still wanted people to wear masks even after the shot. Pfizer even admitted this in the EU parliament.

[OddBeMe]

It did and if a vaxxed person got the virus it was a lax cold instead of death.

Your political ideology is requiring vaccines to have 100% success rate which is idiotic.

But my point is, we’ve had decades of vaccine mandates on children and college kids. They HAD to get vaxxed to go to school.

[Snakeyes7]

So don't threaten people's livelihoods with it. Even if it had a 100% success rate. For people who claim they love their POCs you liberals sure haven't learned from the Tuskegee syphilis experiment have you? Oh wait, liberals never learn from their mistakes, that's why we are becoming more and more communist to their applause despite knowing full well it doesn't work.

[OddBeMe]

Oh god…how many times has that popped up here. TBH I could lay the blame for that vile experiment, as well as Operation Wetback on conservatives’ feet for blocking any semblance of equality.

Tuskegee occured like cop shootings today because they knew if their victims were black they’d likely get away with it.

But that’s completely off the subject of vaccine mandates. For one there nearer really was one. Nor one federal law demanding we get vaxed. It was private corporations who enforced a mandate because they didn’t want a Covid spike in their target stores.

[OddBeMe]

*never was

[Snakeyes7]

Conseravatives? Buddy if it wasn't for the conservatives in Congress, the Civil Right Act never would have passed so get lost with that shit. The democrats of the southern states (often called Dixiecrats) were the primary users of the Jim Crow laws. The KKK was also started by the democrats and are somehow still kicking despite many, many times we have had democrats in power who supposedly wanted racism in the country to end refuse to do anything about them.

If anything, the grassroots democrats nowadays think their time is well spent decrying Daryl Davis, the very guy who is famous for deradicalizing KKK members, as a white supremacist. Not only that, they decry people who say they are "colorblind" as racists too. I guess their goal is for the racists to not get along after all.

I blame the police unions and their tenure policies for police brutality, that is one of the biggest problems I have with unions in general. Once, people get that status, they no longer give a shit how they do their job because nothing will happen to them. I also think we need to get rid of unconstitutional policies because the cops who know that it is wrong will refuse to uphold it and even quit and all the psychos will remain.

>Nor one federal law demanding we get vaxed.

Biden tried to pass one, and he put it into effect knowing that the Supreme Court was going to strike it down (https://www. forbes. com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2021/09/28/bidens-vax-mandate-to-be-enforced-by-fining-companies-70000-to-700000/), until they did (https://www. npr. org/2022/01/13/1072165393/supreme-court-blocks-bidens-vaccine-or-test-mandate-for-large-private-companies).

[OddBeMe]

You’re stupidly confusing party names with liberal and conservative politics.

As LBJ said after it passed, “The civil rights act lost us the south.” Why was that?

[Snakeyes7]

Because they were run by democrats. Again, they were nicknamed Dixiecrats.

[OddBeMe]

Yes conservative democrats. I feel like a damn third grade history teacher. Ffs.

[Snakeyes7]

Now you are not making any sense. You are trying to combine two opposing ideologies.

[slatyb]

They're here. What do you think the restrictions on abortion are? If the Christo-fascists get their way it will be contraception next, then no-fault divorce.

[OddBeMe]

Well yes. Very true. Christian fascism is a thing.

[normalice]

When christian nationalism takes over we will have morality police.

[Flatmanlewis]

You misspelled woke liberals.

[normalice]

@Flatmanlewis I didn't try to spell 'woke liberals' since it is pretty exclusively christian nationalists trying to pass their moral opinions into law.

[Flatmanlewis]

Guess we see the world very differently.

[normalice]

@Flatmanlewis oh, yes

[gorydetails]

When you degenerates insist on destroying society, it certainly starts to convince normal people it’d be a good idea.

[OddBeMe]

How are we doing that? Letting people have the right to express themselves? My god!

[gorydetails]

The average "pride parade" is nothing but disgusting sexual acts in public.

[OddBeMe]

And that’s different from scantily clad cheerleaders at sports games how?

[gorydetails]

Last time I checked cheerleaders aren't simulating sex on the sidelines. But I appreciate you admitting you are a degenerate.

[Flatmanlewis]

Self expression is overrated. People don’t need to express themselves to include vulgar acts. It shouldn’t be illegal, it just shouldn’t be public. Those displays should be restricted to those who willingly wish to see it. Also, comparing NFL cheerleaders to public sex acts is a weak grab.

[OddBeMe]

@Flatmanlewis you don’t have to go Gay Pride Parades. I don’t and I don’t hate gays. Huh.

[Sevenpointfive]

we are already there and if we're not careful, we'll be in a war we can't win.

[Redstang88]

Well if people like you get their way it won’t be long

[OddBeMe]

Mmm, I’m calling for people to control their own bodies. And your side…. isn’t.

[Redstang88]

No you just want to control how we think and speak

[OddBeMe]

Not sure how you got that. No Dem or lefty calls for you to be arrested if you hate trannies. We just want trannies to have the same rights we do. Boom done.

[Redstang88]

You know damn well that’s not enough for many

[OddBeMe]

Who’s many? And what issue do they have?

[Anonymous]

We don’t have any at all, which is why any limitations on abortion are reacted to like human rights abuses.

[OddBeMe]

How would you define a standard for human rights abuses?

[Bethany22]

How would you think that! That's scary!

[OddBeMe]

Telling people what to do and not do with their bodies, for one.

[Anonymous]

The woke are on your team.

[OddBeMe]

Right it’s us telling people what they can and can’t do with their own bodies.

[Opinion Owner]

I like sparring with you Mr. Odd.
In many ways I like Libertarians. But where they lose me is when they say that all drugs should be legal. They say that it's none of your business to dictate what drugs someone should use.



Horse shit!

[OddBeMe]

Wht if the FDA regulated cocaine use? Are you gonna say cocaine is more deadly that sugar?

[Opinion Owner]

Good point! I'm constantly hearing stories on the news about sugar junkies robbing people at gunpoint.

[OddBeMe]

No, but what’s the biggest cause of death in America?

[Opinion Owner]

As much as I like sparring with you, Mr. Odd, you're starting to sound like Karine Jean-Pierre

[OddBeMe]

Don’t know who that is but coronary heart disease caused by obesity is the answer I was looking for. Sugar. Lot more dangerous than crack.

[Opinion Owner]

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You're an American but you don't know who Joe's press secretary is?
She has the IQ of a fruit fly. She was just asked about Jews being targeted by hate groups.
She replied by saying that Muslims are being targeted. LMAO

[OddBeMe]

Yeah I’m not watching tv or caring what the WH says everyday. Shoot me,

[shortster]

The Democratic party already exists.

[OddBeMe]

Right, Dems call for all bodies to be regulated by religious standards. Wait…

[shortster]

No, just by the CDC.

[OddBeMe]

Right, medically during a pandemic killing millions we (as in smart people- CDC ain’t lefties) want Americans to take a harmless injection that will save other people’s lives.

[shortster]

You still think that the COVID vaccine is harmless. That is a joke. Nevermind that it is largely ineffective at preventing people from getting and spreading COVID; and it's ability to reduce the symptoms during an infection are debatable. All for a vaccine that was rushed into production by Trump. Then there is the whole mask debacle where they don't work, then they do work, and now we're back to them not working, but we should still wear them.

[OddBeMe]

Yes, no one has died because of it, as far as I know. Feel free to correct me.

Science rushed a vaxx into production because of a fcking pandemic.

[strateguy632]

polic

[strateguy632]

e can't be the judge, only can use force to bring a suspect for questioning.
that is not even real police.

[OddBeMe]

Very true. They’re passing sentence based in a whim. Tho it’s a “hijab police” so if a chick ain’t wearing a hijab like the bitch should be, sorry…she was warned.

How is this religion still around?