Should Americas be forced to take yearly Citizenship tests…just to make sure our country has the best and brightest?

[OddBeMe]

I think it should be like a license you have to renew.

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[Oliverlogan263]

I don't know man, yearly tests sounds like a lot. I mean I was barely even passing my regular classes as it is in school lol. Having another test to study for every year would be stressful!

Plus some people aren't great test takers you know? Doesn't necessarily mean they're not good Americans. And our country's got folks from all over, so English might not be their first language and tests could be extra hard.

I guess it depends what's on the tests too. If it's just basic history and government stuff that's one thing. But if they start asking super specific policy questions or something, that wouldn't really prove who's "best and brightest."

And who even decides the right answers? Could get political fast. Next thing you know they're failing people who don't support certain laws or whatever.

Seems like it could cause a lot of problems and hassle for folks to have to keep proving they deserve to be citizens. I'd rather they just focus on teaching civics in school so we all know how the country works.

Not sure constant testing is really fair or necessary. But that's just my take on it man, who knows maybe it would work out.

[OddBeMe]

I mean…maybe just a checkup that all Americans are doing their best. You’re in class, you auto pass.

[Oliverlogan263]

I don't know dude, even like a checkup test seems kinda iffy to me. Like as long as people are working hard and paying their taxes and not breaking any big laws, doesn't that show they're contributing? School is hard enough already without adding more tests.

And how would you know if the tests were totally fair? Some people just aren't great test takers, even if they're really smart. Seems like it could be used to mess with people or discriminate. Like what if the questions were about stuff only certain groups would know?

I get wanting Americans to do their best, but people show that in different ways. Not everything is about tests, you know? As long as the country is running okay and most folks are doing alright, I don't think we need to be checking up on each other all the time with exams. That's a lot of pressure! Maybe just encourage people to learn new stuff on their own time if they want.

[OddBeMe]

I think so. You’d be surprised how many “citizens” aren’t doing that,

[Oliverlogan263]

Hmm yeah I could see how some people might not be keeping up their end if they ain't in school or working. That's probably not good for the country if citizens ain't contributing somehow. I guess a checkup could help make sure everyone is staying on track and doing what they're supposed to. It would have to be fair though and give people chances to improve if they need help. Maybe some people just fell on hard times too, so the tests gotta account for that. And definitely shouldn't be too hard like I said before. As long as it's about helping people stay on the right path and not just finding excuses to kick folks out, a check every now and then don't sound that bad I guess. Gotta keep America strong by making sure we're all pulling our weight, right?

[OddBeMe]

I’m all for that. Really this was a thought exercise to separate citizenship from being assumed, because so many people are dying at the border.

I don’t want anyone to lose out. We have the room and the economy likes newcomers.

[Oliverlogan263]

Ah okay, I get what you're saying now. That does make sense - it's a real shame folks gotta risk their lives just to come here. If there was a better way for them to earn citizenship without all that dangerous stuff at the border, that could help save lives for sure. And like you said, more good people is only good for the economy too. As long as they go through whatever process properly and it's not too crazy hard, I don't see why we shouldn't let folks in if we've got space. Could be a win-win if it means less dying and more workers at the same time, right? Guess there's no easy answers but talking it through different ideas ain't a bad thing. Thanks for explaining where you're coming from, man.

[OddBeMe]

We could easily easily make immigration a cinch. And then they’d be on the grid paying taxes. And no more funding ice or a stupid border wall.

It makes too much sense that it’s obviously a political football for politicians to kick when they need an easy win.

[Drewtate]

How does the country support the rest of the world emptying into the us? If you want an example look at Europe, they've basically open boarders and they can't cope. Sweden has huge no go zones. You would be turning the us into Mexico where the middle class have to lock themselves in gated communities. We've enough ghettos in the us like la and San Francisco

[OddBeMe]

@Drewtate Europe has a very strong economy and solid currency exchange in the euro. I’m pretty sure every Brit regrets their Brexit vote but are too proud to admit it.

Immigration has minimal negative effect and net positive economic affects. It’s when immigrants stop trying to go to your country is when you should worry.

[Drewtate]

Go to Europe and see the muslim ghettos for yourself full of crime and unemployment.
Britain has continued on despite brexit and still have the illegal immigrant problem. Seemingly mainland Europe is so bad that illegals will risk a channel crossing in the middle of winter to get to Britain, why?

[OddBeMe]

@Drewtate sigh…there Muslims in ghettos and high end neighborhoods in every country and city. Your racism is troubling as you claim to be black.

[Drewtate]

I don't claim to be black, I am black. What does my blackness have to do with the impoverished ghettos in Europe all on social security rather than working, burdening European taxpayers. The fact that you bring up my race shows your racism.

[OddBeMe]

@Drewtate you are assuming all Muslims are living in a dirty ghetto. You know how fucking racist that is. Start quoting the Rising Tide of Color.

This is like talking to sexist women. Pollution is breathed in by everyone.

[Drewtate]

The vast majority of them are. Overcrowded dilapidated ghettos. This is what happens with unchecked illegal immigration, housing them all becomes a problem. Just look at how sanctuary city new York is struggling

[OddBeMe]

@Drewtate Vast majority of Muslims? Or vast majority of ghettos…which thats the definition?

[Drewtate]

That's how many have come that there's nowhere for them

[OddBeMe]

@Drewtate Sorry are you saying all Muslims, then?

[Drewtate]

I'm saying the hardest of illegals that came to Europe that can't be housed. The EU must be treating them pretty bad.

[OddBeMe]

@Drewtate I don’t know because I’m not in Europe. But their math on immigration is the same as ours. Good for economies,

[Drewtate]

No but we should ensure only immigrants that come legally can stay and illegals can't work by jailing those who employ them.

[OddBeMe]

What about employees with domestic violence, speeding tickets, etc, all worse than crossing a border.

[Drewtate]

Do We know whether these illegals have incidents of domestic violence, speeding tickets etc? Domestic violence is higher south of the boarder.

[Sasahara]

@oddbemeSo now you care if they make it harder for immigrants to cross a border? Perhaps Mayor Adams should not have limited when immigrants who wish to come to NYC by buss, are allowed to arrive by buss and that Democratic ahole should have focused on worse and more pressing matters compared to imigrants comming and boosting tge echonomy in NYC

[OddBeMe]

@Sasahara no dummy I make it harder for shit birds to keep riding the coat tails of others. If an immigrant would be better than a citizen, swap em.

[Drewtate]

Coat tails of others? You mean cheap labor for your gated community/plantation

[OddBeMe]

Nah, they’re illegals. But if some actual citizen is shitting away their American dream then we swap em for an illegal who’ll take full advantage!

[Drewtate]

Nah you be living like some Mexican upper middle class guy in a walled gated community afraid to step outside of it due to the crime.

[OddBeMe]

Crime from who? Not from immigrants according to stats. But hey that’s math and you don’t like math.

[Drewtate]

According to stats? Any stats that show minorities in a bad light are suppressed. Take it from a black man who grew up in black areas, apparently cops were the problem

[OddBeMe]

“ most academic research finds little long run effect on Americans’ wages.” Wharton College Research

budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/.../the-effects-of-immigration-on-the-united-states-economy

[Drewtate]

Most academic research is done by college industrial complex. Would you trust research done by the military industrial complex?

[Daniela1982]

How would that work with all the illegals Biden let in with no knowledge where they all are now? Who is going to deal with that?

[OddBeMe]

Well they’ll be given a shot at citizenship and dumb fucks like yourself will lose their coveted citizenship they born into.

[Daniela1982]

Watch your name calling there. Have I ever called you a name before? So be nice or I will troll you forever. 🤩 and a day.

[OddBeMe]

Sorry I get overheated. My bad.

[Daniela1982]

You get excused this time. Stand in the corner for 5 minutes.

[OddBeMe]

Yes ma’am. Sorry ma’am.

[Anonymous]

No, but you should have to take a test to able to vote.

[OddBeMe]

Seems like we could square this circle.

[Sasahara]

No, but I understand I understand you want to get ridd of the type of SJWs you find on websites like Resetera or RPGnet. Its not like the rest of the world wants them either, so America can keep them.

[OddBeMe]

No idea what those are. I’ll google em. I’m just looking for some guarantees that every American ain’t wasting their privilege. Since so many people want in who could probably do better.

[HighSky]

No, that would be evil and immoral.

What would happen if someone refuses to take this test?

[OddBeMe]

We find an illegal migrant who actually wants the American dream and passes then swap em! Now that former American will have to work hard for once to get his citizenship back.

[HighSky]

That is a fucking evil idea just no. How are you going to achieve this? Threaten to kill anybody who does not obey you?
Sickening and evil idea.

[OddBeMe]

Now do we keep people from stealing? I’m only saying make people be a bit more productive. Hows that evil?

[HighSky]

Self defense is justified, but using violence on people when you're not defending yourself is not justified.

[OddBeMe]

Where violence come into play here? I believe I referenced a drivers license, I’m not sure what your experience at the dmv is like…

[gorydetails]

You lefties would fail miserably. I'm all for it. Can we boot you up to Canada?

[Anonymous]

Yearly the infrastructure would collapse

Make it say ever 5-10 years like the census

[OddBeMe]

I feel like we make it normal, the stock market wouldn’t take a hit, people get normalize it. Make it every five years and every 5 years you’ll have a recession. Lol

[Opinion Owner]

30.5million every month is a lot given how stretched the government is already

[OddBeMe]

Yes but the ROI on insuring every American is doing their best could only help. Funding ICE, Bradley tanks or the socialize military jobs program, not so much.

[msc545]

oh hell no!

[OddBeMe]

Chicken

[msc545]

No it's just a stupid idea. Sorry!

[OddBeMe]

Yes why have citizens take a citizenship test. Stupid me.

[msc545]

Exactly. Opens a can of worms, costs a lot, and has no clear benefit.

[OddBeMe]

If they fail they’re out. Maybe we can have probationary status.

[msc545]

Out of what?

[OddBeMe]

At least citizenship. They have to fight for it like immigrants do. Why are some idiots born into American Dream when we could be more choosy?

[msc545]

There is no reliable way to test for an "idiot"