Who do you think should be elected as president after Biden? Who would do things right and become a better president?

[Oliverlogan263]

[abc3643]

After Biden, I really don't enthusiastically care for any politician now.

I don't trust anyone in politics younger than me, really. This is because they entered adulthood during a period of extreme fantasy about the real world. This is a major reason why American society is rather fucked-up at the moment but that's a long story.

While I generally do not vote GOP, I won't rule it out either. Chris Christie is a normal bullshit (&) politician 4 months older than me but, like most NYers (*), he knows that the bullshit is for the election cycle but then there's the real work and that involves understanding human nature and physical reality and doing the best thing.

On the DEM side, it would have been Sanders, but he's really aged out of it now, but he was right about a great number of things. Biden was a good moderate. I can't think of any other at the moment that I'd trust enough. Believe it or not, Hillary Clinton could have been good - better than her husband. She's was passionate, yet realistic and more organized than he was. Unfortunately, she's also a bit grating and that's partly what tanked her in 2016. As smart as she is, she's not smart about human nature at times whereas, comparatively speaking, Trump is; a nontrivial factor why Trump won in 2016.

I liked Obama too. In many ways, we were the same ideologically. Obama was no fool and not an idiot. He had an excellent balance and did surprisingly well given his background. I'd vote for him until the sun explodes but he's out because of the 22nd Amendment. What I disliked about his administration is that it energized the racists. Also, he had to "play nice" in certain ways so as to appear more moderate and appease moderates and flighty independents. In other words, bullshit for the "optics". Here's an example: Same-Sex marriage. Obama was a Senior Lecturer for 12 years at the right-leaning University of Chicago Law School which is an elite law school. He knew almost instinctively that banning same-sex marriage was a violation of the equal protection and due process clauses of the 14th Amendment. Even I knew that and I'm not a lawyer. And that is exactly what the SCOTUS said in its 2015 opinion Obergefell v. Hodges. Yet, for the bullshit optics of not appearing too liberal, he denied being for same-sex marriage (even though he was for it), but that his "views evolved" on the issue. Total bullshit; he was for same-sex marriage all along because he understood the legal reasons why a ban on it was unconstitutional. I accepted that because I knew he had to say he was "evolving" for political reasons.
I'll let the Washington Post explain it:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/01/11/gay-marriage-joe-biden/

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Over the years Obama had shifted his stand on the issue. In Chicago in 1996, when he ran for an Illinois state Senate seat, he told a gay newspaper in a questionnaire that he favored legalizing same-sex marriage. But in 2004 as a U. S. Senate candidate he asserted that marriage was something just for a man and a woman. In 2008, on the presidential campaign trail, he took an official position against a change in marriage rights, though he let it be known among his confidants that his views were evolving.
By 2011 — while in the White House — he had come around: He privately told his advisers he approved of gay marriage. But for public circulation, his aides wanted only to promote the line that he was “evolving.” To some liberals, Obama’s reticence reflected a lack of political courage. Obama “has liberal instincts and will effectuate progressive reforms,” wrote Harvard law professor Randall Kennedy in his book “The Persistence of the Color Line,” “but only if he can do so without getting uncomfortably close to what he perceives to be too high a political price.”

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What I boldface above is why change takes so fucking long! This is an important life lesson: The changes that will occur to society are often very slow - sometimes too slow - and much of this has to do with politics [+] and waiting for the culture to mature, or have the issue slap them in the face, or to have the conservatives die off. Example: EVs should have been common by the mid-1980s. We are 40 years behind where we should have been.

[+] Remember, while you may be caring about the people of the future, they don't vote for you; the people living now are the voters and their immediate needs and views are often not aligned with what is best for the future.

Anyway, back to your question...

I do like DEM Martin J. O'Malley who turned 61 today (R 18 JAN 2024). He was Governor of Maryland for 8 years. I would definitely consider voting for him if he was to run for President in 2028.

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(&) "Bridgegate" didn't help Christie's cause. It killed him in 2016 and thus helped Trump get the GOP nod that year.

(*) Yes, I know Christie's from NJ but he's from Newark which is really "New York in New Jersey". Trump should have been like this too, but he's living in an immature, narcissistic fantasyland now; he has no interest in what is best for America or the world and will NEVER take the blame for anything he does wrong.

[BCA6010]

It's effectively irrelevant who the Democrats put on the ballot in any given election because anyone who has received the party's endorsement for the general is a puppet controlled by the party's elite; the primaries are mainly a survey to see which personality is most palatable to their voters.

It's also irrelevant in a different way who the Republicans put up. In contrast, the Republicans are a fractured coalition of what would otherwise be more parties, united solely in opposition to the Democrats. This means that no matter who sits in the office, only very vague and minor reforms ever pass, usually in the form of tax cuts/adjustments. Anything else? Has to be passed by executive order and inevitably gets unwritten on day 1 of the next president's tenure. That in itself is a relative rarity because the party typically hawks a middling candidate who barely has a spine (if at all). Think George and Jeb Bush, John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Nikki Haley.

So ultimately... Do you want someone to keep the same idiotic agendas but is actually capable of stringing a sentence together? Or would you rather a temporary stalling of the BS for a few years while the incumbent party jerks itself off?

[Anonymous]

There are no good ones, they are all controlled by world powers now, wealthy corporations and individuals.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Nikki Haley, Condezzella Rice, Liz Cheney

[normalice]

I'd be fine with Asa Hutchinson. But that pretty much guarantees he has no chance to win the GOP nomination as modern Republicans only want a candidate that "triggers the libs," but Asa does not. And he can't run as a Democrat because his policies are conservative. I prefer avoiding a republican altogether but the media will never allow that.

[RebelinSteel]

The best person the country can find under the age of 65. someone that is not dodging a hole in the ground. I’m not American, hate two party politics, especially when they turn a country against each other. What about a third party, a woman as leader. But no, it’s two people circling the grave.

[AviatorTom]

Historically, after 8 years of Democrats, a Republican wins... and maybe it's time for a female President... how about Nikki Haley.

[exitseven]

Donald J Trump. He would fix a lot of the things that Biden messed up.

[Astarlessnightsky]

Bernie Sanders would be my first choice. But i don't know many US politicians

[Kingofkings1992]

This statement right here proves you shouldn’t speak on US politics. Bernie Sanders never even had a job till he was in his 40s

[FunkyMonkee]

Trump, aside from Vivek, he's the only logical choice!

[Iron_Man]

This man

https://www.youtube.com/embed/1es9MZyyPOA

[Guido]

Anybody that still has a functioning brain and not have 1 foot in the grave. Time to get rid of both of the old farts that are too old to realize they are too old to do a good job.

[Anonymous]

The next Democrat nominee for President.