Has anyone ever proven that anything is immoral?

[Anonymous]

Here are some examples:

Abortion is immoral

Racial discrimination is immoral

Drinking and driving is immoral

Stealing from the rich is immoral

Having lots of sexual partners is immoral

Polluting the Earth is immoral

Yes, it has been proven that some things are immoral

No, no no. No one has ever proven anything is immoral

I'm confused/see results

[RebelinSteel]

Try learning some English first, immoral is not a word to associate with the above. For example Polluting the earth is immoral is just bad English. Also what has sexual partners to do with immoral, stupid religious types say it’s no sex before marriage, that would mean any sexual partner would be immoral which is just utter rubbish. Try your question again but as @slatyb says use Unethical and add in some decent examples. You said drinking and driving is immoral when it’s pretty much illegal.

[Asker]

Okay, so in your opinion, is drinking and driving unethical? If so, how do you prove that?

[RebelinSteel]

Through a breath test, it’s amazing what science can do. There is a law and breaking the law results in a crime. Not hard really.

[Asker]

But how do you prove drinking and driving is unethical? Or do you believe all actions that go against the law are unethical?

[RebelinSteel]

It is unethical because you knowingly do something that has a far increase chance of killing someone. Is drink driving right or wrong?

[Asker]

But how do you prove that something that has a "far increase of killing someone" is unethical? During WWII, America dropped bombs on Nazi Germany. Most people don't think that was unethical, despite that fact that it increased chances of killing someone.

[RebelinSteel]

Because they have proved being wankered behind the wheel of a car dramatically increases the chances of smegging flesh bags

[slatyb]

Proven? I don't like the word "immoral" -- I would rather use "unethical". Drinking and driving is unethical because it may harm other people. Polluting the Earth is unethical as it definitely harms others, both now and in the future.

[Asker]

But how do you prove that harming others is unethical? And is everything that harms others unethical?

[slatyb]

Prove? There's no proving anything in philosophy. Not harming others is more or less the definition of behaving ethically -- not imposing a cost on others without their consent.

[Zestyassmf1997]

Kantian ethics is basically concerned with logically proving that certain things are moral/immoral. The crux of it is, “if everyone did this, what would happen?”

[jahaims]

An opinion can't be proven or disproven. You are presenting an opinion as a fact or fallacy.