Should the childless have more rights?

[OddBeMe]

Just announced that the Child Tax Credit will be expanding…means higher taxes on us.

Yes

No

[jshm2]

They should have even LESS rights. Stupid single fuckers can't even do basic biology, or manage social cohesion. They should be made slaves, were it for the fact they would make very poor slaves!

Joking aside, single people don't matter much more than the labour they provide. It's why no political group bothers targeting that demographic much.

[RavVid]

Yes we should have the right to see that the money that is spent on children is not wasted and they can read, write competently and solve differential equations before they are taught about gender fluidity and social marxism/white privilege.

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

We usually pay for having our genes spread.

So, it’s natural that childless couples have less expenses.

[OddBeMe]

So for your pain, we have to pay?

[LaFemmeFatale_1]

I don’t have children, I am paying taxes. What do you mean?

[OddBeMe]

You’re acting like I should know that. You reply saying you’re spreading your genes, wtf am I spouse to think?

[TenderFantasy]

I'm not sure I understand.

Are they planning to tax the childless even more?

Oh boy..

[OddBeMe]

Just more incentives for kids even though they’re more likely to be poor.

So we’re incentivizing having children and then subsidizing them with welfare. Not that I want children to go hungry.

[matchrestore]

The child tax credits don't come anywhere near the cost of caring for and raising a child. No one is having kids for the tax advantages.

[OddBeMe]

Didn’t say that. But those tax credits are coming out of someone’s wallet homey.

[Sevenpointfive]

there should be no programs for stupid people. if they are that stupid they should should die. the amount of women trying to get pregnant is through the roof! but some women can't. the ones that matter. so we're breeding a stupid society

[Drewtate]

Children are an investment in the future. An aging population is a declining country.

[OddBeMe]

Fascist.

[Drewtate]

When your pension is worth less due to inflation and the government starts dipping their hands into ig to make up the difference from a loss of taxes you will feel different

[disgustingweebtrash]

No, child tax is good.

Think of the 3rd worlders having 6 kids in poverty, yet you sit in your cushy homes and more or less well fed complaining about how you haven't got enough money for children.

[OddBeMe]

I get you…but why did they have six kids in poverty? I take out 10 credit cards and max out, I pay for that mistake. Why is that different?

[disgustingweebtrash]

They had six kids because you give them aid and their women are property in their countries so technically you do pay for their mistakes. We also need to maintain birth rates so we dont have an aging population "crisis" (not that such a thing is as bad as it is made out to be) its characters such as yourself anyway that champion immigration even if it's a net negative to yourself

[OddBeMe]

I’m…speechless…you’re arguing for the child tax credit. And then blaming me for giving them too much welfare?

[disgustingweebtrash]

Yes. Less foreign aid and punish westerners for pursuing a life of consumerism over having children.

[OddBeMe]

So which welfare are you against? Every poor person pursues a life of consumerism with their child tax credit. Thats the point of the child tax credit. To buy shit.

And foreign aid is.01% of the budget. Come at with me with a considerable part of the spending, dumbass.

[disgustingweebtrash]

I oppose consumerism entirely, as someone who criticises the capitalist system do you not oppose it as well? Consumerism is bad for the planet. If you spent 5 minutes around poor people you'd know a lot of them (not all, most sadly) deserve to be poor, they have so much money for buying takeaway, paying for holidays, basically purchasing anything luxury they can get their hands on rather than focusing on conserving wealth (ironically, they will also cry about the capitalist system being unfair, which it is)

Foreign aid is more than you realize, plus I consider private charity for these nations a wasted effort too. It's funny to watch Westerners finance their own destruction and have an ego about it. But at the same time, you keep these nations poor with your idea of charity.

[OddBeMe]

No actually. I criticize to make it better. Consumerist economies just use people’s natural instincts to prevail. And capitalist countries like the US has brought billions out of poverty.

African and Indian villages may still be “poor” but they all have cellphones and fridges.

[disgustingweebtrash]

There is no improving a system based on infinite growth on a planet with finite resources.
Okay cool these "poor" countries have cellphones and fridges, so drop all charity and foreign aid, oh and refuse any immigration (legal or illegal) on the basis of they aren't from poor countries anyway.

[OddBeMe]

So…*calculator typing* you saved “less than 1% of our budget. Care to go bigger?

[disgustingweebtrash]

Not really. Welfare spending and in our own case spending on healthcare would plummet. A lot more than 1% and charity isn't possibly calculated since it goes into the personal spending of people. Charity in itself is a scam and deprives the second and third world of self reliance.

[OddBeMe]

I’m still waiting for an actual response to the budget problem. You wanna cut Social sec, Medicare or defense?

[disgustingweebtrash]

What I said in my prior comment contributes to that (less welfare = less social security for example) and its much more complex than simply a choice of three (you're hoping I pick defense) so my response was an actual response. Also you reported my comment on another question so its already blatant you don't want *actual* solutions. Just temporary band aids so you can feel morally superior.

[CozyCoffin]

The goal of those credits is to provide incentive for more people to reproduce and also to help offset the cost of upkeep of those children. It isn't there to "take your rights".

[Apple1996]

Nah that's yalls fault for not having kids

[OddBeMe]

That logic’s f’ed up.

[Apple1996]

You sound jelly of my 5 kids

[OddBeMe]

Yes I’m “jelly” my wife’s pussy is tight as we sleep in this weekend ordering takeout and live hedonistically without any children bugging us.

[Apple1996]

Having kids makes a pussy even tighter lol and my kids are cool we spend most nights playing video games and they also all sleep in

[TenderFantasy]

@Apple1996 Lol no you know that's not true. I think from what I've read, it just goes back to the way it originally was.

[TenderFantasy]

@Apple1996 Now I mean.

[Apple1996]

@TenderFantasy it gets tighter from the healing. It's basically like getting a new better vag every time that I've had a baby

[OddBeMe]

I’ll say it least doesn’t mud flap…

[wiltingrosepetal]

No? That's an absurd question 😭

[Dargil]

Granted by whom and why?