Indoctrination vs just teaching. In your own words whats the difference between these two things?

[Still-alive]

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I feel like people have conflated these two things for awhile now and just wanna see if people can correctly point out the differences. They’re similar but also very different too

[msmissydc]

Teaching shows both sides (or all sides if there are more than two) and from the facts everyone can make their own picture.

Indoctrination leaves important parts from one side or doesn't show real facts at all. One is portraited as obviously the "good one".

Its important to note here that you can indeed "lie" with statistics. Especialy in the context of teaching, when not all participants are on the same knowledge level. So you do not have to LIE to not tell the truth.

Add one: there are situations where even without Indoctrination, one side can be obviously, under a social moral construct, be "evil".

I think a good example of this is how Nazi and third reich where thought over time in Germany. (I hope its not worth mentioning, that during the nazi-regime there obviously was indoctrination. I am talking about post WWII)

From my parents I know that there wasn't real teachings at all. They were told they where saved by the WWII winners and thats about it. There was no information about the nazi- regime. (important note her: It is true they where saved by the WWII winners but that was told, not thought to see it themselves). I would call that part indoctrination to an extend.

While I was in school we where shown both sides. We got shown Nazi papers and propaganda. But we also had the contrast of todays democracy and the other parties that where suppressed during their regime. We where shown all sides, and this resulted in every functioning moral human being, being able to see for themselves, why the nazi-regime was pure-Evil.

So I talk about Morals from time to time. DO I think Morals can be thought and should they be thought? I think to an extend they should be thought but also they are formed by society on a day to day basis. But thats a complete different topic. I think morals are experienced and thought by social institutions (sociology) which are governed by the society the are applied in.

[purplepoppy]

Teaching shows the evidence from both sides and explains why one is more widely accepted.
Indoctrination insists one side is right, offers little evidence and ridicules the other side.

[DJB72]

With indoctrination they're telling you what to think. Orwell saw it coming in 1984 with the Ministry of Thought. Clockwork Orange took it to the next level.

Look at what Jordan Peterson is facing right now. Canada's top court has said he has to be "re-educated" on social media and unless he completes the training - which is discretionary to the opinion of the trainer - in a "satisfactory" way, meaning toe the official government line, he loses his professional license. It's basically saying that free speech is only allowed if it confirms with the liberal bullshit and doesn't criticise Trudeau.

[Kelley1]

"Look at what Jordan Peterson is facing right now. Canada's top court has said he has to be "re-educated" on social media and unless he completes the training - which is discretionary to the opinion of the trainer - in a "satisfactory" way, meaning toe the official government line, he loses his professional license. It's basically saying that free speech is only allowed if it confirms with the liberal bullshit and doesn't criticise Trudeau."

That is horrible and too much like the USA is becoming.

[DJB72]

Western society in general, it's just the Canadian dictator Trudeau has gone further. Like Canada is the litmus test to see how far a Western society will surrender their freedom in the name of "security".

They've been caught recommending assisted suicide for physically disabled veterans rather than installing the things like a stair lift in their homes paid by health insurance.

More land per capita than any other industrialised nation and one of the biggest homeless problems caused by not having enough affordable housing.

[IceCreamSandwich]

there's plenty of more detailed, deeply researched answers to this question , but as far as I've seen they can usually be boiled down to one simple easy-to-recognize rule:

Teaching encourages curiosity. Indoctrination kills it.

[Kelley1]

Public schools are indoctrination. Teaching is putting learing ahead of trying to tell student what they should believe.

[DeeDeeDeVour]

I'd rather teach.

"Brainwashing" ain't my thing.

[Ms_Facesitter]

Teaching is an actual lesson and the latter is more... manipulation?

[jamesgoldman]

Teaching is for useful information and indoctrination is for useless information

[McLlovin]

The motivation.