What’s worse? Illegal Migrants or Driving Drunk?

[OddBeMe]

Both are against the law, no doubt. But one doesn’t hurt anyone and the other kills 30,000 a year. Why is there no “crisis” in driving safety?

Drunk driving is worse

Illegal migrants are worse (I swear, it’s not my ideology)

[Flatmanlewis]

I’d say both. They are different enough that the comparison is more like a bait move than a true “either-or” situation.
Illegal aliens place a drain on the system and erode rule of law. Many drunk drivers cause damage, injuries, and pain. Both are detrimental to the overall health of a society. We’re seeing some horrific consequences for mass immigration in several European nations and immigrants cannot all be wrapped in the virtuous ideology of they are simply seeking a better life for their families. The statistics do not bear that out.

[exitseven]

Illegal aliens. Also there have been many Americans who had been killed by illegal aliens driving drunk. In my little corner of the world there have been 3 Americans that have been killed by illegal aliens who were driving drunk in an uninsured vehicle. One was a 7 year old boy. An illegal alien was driving drunk a couple of weeks ago and killed a husband and wife that left 5 kids behind. President Trump is the only one that is talking about this.

Also illegal aliens are costing a half a trillion dollars just at the federal level. . At the same time the poverty rate among people 65 and over has increased from 9% in 2021 to over 15% in 2023.

[OddBeMe]

No doubt. But as a priority of billions spent…. seems like a law that requires breathilizers to start cars would be more apt than another foot of fencing immigrants climb over.

And still no evidence illegals are bad for the country. Been asking for it.

[exitseven]

Are you kidding? A half trillion dollars that could be used to help citizens or cut the deficit is nothing? What about the fentanyl coming across the border? Just because Biden and the fake news has ignored it does not mean it is happening. There are thousands of small street crimes every day that never make the newspapers. The mother who was shot and killed at the Chief's parade last week was supposedly killed by one of our "undocumented citizens" . This too was hushed up bu the media..

[Avicenna]

Odd ignores all evidence and common sense. He worships the illegals because he thinks they are racially superior to him.

[Rosexøxø]

Yeah drunk driving is worse.

It surrounds carelessness or addictions and problems coping.

Immigration is always those seeking asylum/ better opportunities and looking to spend their livelihood somewhere else-

THEYRE TRYING TO LIVE lol

and The drunkards or careless people driving are either taking that for granted (not so seriously), or not wanting to or having a hard time doing so/coping.

Either way they shouldn’t be behind a wheel. They need to be in front of a caring and educated therapist.

[Rosexøxø]

Voted A

[strateguy632]

always? learn the English word asylum not insane asylum!

[Rosexøxø]

@strateguy632 yeah the exceptions is the 1% who actually want to terrorize America and have some washy beliefs.

I know the meaning of seeking asylum and insane asylum lol

I referred the first one instead of the second one you had mentioned.

[strateguy632]

despite driving drunk as you said usually doesn't run over anyone, the one harmless of these, it is still bad. but not as bad as ilegal immigration that brings very harmful criminals and fentanyl also even the non criminals before came, are criminals by coming illegaly. and UNJUSTLY burden society and unjustly get rewarded BEFORE the law abiding applicants WAITING for the process, so for several reasons illegal immigration is far worse.

[msc545]

Driving drunk is far worse. Illegal migrants are just people who didn't fill out some forms, and are nothing more than a Republican conspiracy story designed to change the vote.

[OddBeMe]

Or don’t have enough money to buy citizenship.

[exitseven]

@OddBeMe. Illegal aliens are law breakers who Biden and the democrats are letting into the country to change the demographics in Republicsn states like Texas and turn them Democrat.

[msc545]

Horseshit. Illegal migrants are being let into this country to provide cheap labor for big agricultural corporations, all of whom are owned and run by Republicans.

[demonics]

"all of whom are owned and run by Republicans"

Then arrest them!
"No wait... we ummm we... its its its not that simple."

[msc545]

@demonics People with a lot of money and influence BUY legislators.

[OddBeMe]

@demonics I’m glad we find more people like you who are against Citizens United and dark money in politics. We can finally overturn that shit, right?

[jmsinaz]

Why not have both? An illegal migrant that had been deported five times already and had an ICE detainer out for him, drove intoxicated and killed a five-year old boy.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrant-deported-5-times-charged-hit-run-death-texas-boy

[Sevenpointfive]

maybe raise the limit to over 0.08%? that's one drink for some people. what's the point of a bar if you can only have one? maybe it's a training facility to get stronger? drinking should not be allowed in public at all!

[Snakeyes7]

Driving drunk is worse short term, illegal immigration is worse long term.

[Rosexøxø]

How can we get some examples or no?

[OddBeMe]

@Rosexøxø I’ve been asking for evidence of longterm to America. Only get emotions or anti immigrant “research” that’s found to be falsified. Let’s see which!

[Snakeyes7]

@OddBeMe There is something to be said about illegal immigrants getting hotel rooms to live in on the taxpayer's dime while the average person are still relegated to $2k per month apartments that are the size of the hotel rooms in length and width. All while they are paying for those hotel rooms.

What is the advantage of them gaining citizenship? The government kisses their ass more than actual citizens.

[exitseven]

Illegal aliens aew like a gift that keeps on giving

[blondfrog]

Depends not all illegal migrants are bad. But of course your bound to get some bad eggs when an immigrant moves to another country illegally. But all drunks are bad.

[summiter]

Drunk driving any day... it kills people!

[OddBeMe]

Right! They always crash and kill whole families while emerging scratchless.

[exitseven]

And illegals don't?

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven actually no, illegals with or without drivers licenses fatally crash less. Licenses do help reign in illegals driving poorly tho.

[exitseven]

No, they are all driving drunk in unregistered , uninsured vehicles. Most drive old pickup trucks that makes it worse. One killed a 28 year old mother of 2 last summer. He just took off and left her to die. It took the cops a few days to find this guy and when they arrested him he admitted he was drunk and was afraid he would be arrested and that is why he took off.
When President Trump ran for president in 2016 he invited the survivors of people who were killed by illegal aliens to be in the audience during one of his debates. There were only about a hundred people there.
Yesterday there was a show that talked about Laken Riley and went into all the other women that have been murdered by illegals. I did not count them but it was not a short list.
Still no response from Biden.

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven oh wow. All illegals are driving drunk? Of course you have evidence of this?

[exitseven]

You cannot swing a dead cat around here without seeing one driving erratically.

[summiter]

@exitseven exit I kind of feel sorry for you. Are you watching too much FOX news again?

[exitseven]

@summiter. What if it was your wife or mother that was killed?

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven I wouldn’t blame them illegally crossing the border. Or others that illegally crossed.

Dont get me wrong, there are drunk drivers who are illegals. It can be real issue. It’s not anywhere near citizens who do it. So it’s a redundant issue to argue.

I was merely comparing based off what our politicians are choosing to prioritize.

[exitseven]

In my little corner of the world there were 3 deaths caused by illegals driving drunk in 2023. One was a 7 year old boy.

[OddBeMe]

@exitseven horrible. We should blame all parents of 3 year olds for not being good parents.

Wait, that’s be illogical. :)

[Anonymous]

Drunk driving is worse.

There are laws against both, but the difference is drunk driving laws are enforced, and there is no polical ideology that supports breaking those laws.

[OddBeMe]

We’re spending billions enforcing anti immigrant laws. Not even saying that’s bad. I would like a cost benefit analysis of what we spend versus what’s lost having immigrants here. But that always seems secondary to “politics”

[QuietRunner]

however illegal drunk driving aliens are the worst

[OddBeMe]

Are they worst? Which group of people drink drive the most?
www.nhtsa.gov/sites/nhtsa.gov/files/tt398.pdf

[exitseven]

I always thought it was the Irish

[Juxtapose]

Illegals deal generational damage. It's worse.

[DextroShade]

The Biden administration and democrats are against deporting illegals who are caught driving drunk.

[Drewtate]

Being an ilegal driving drunk

[OddBeMe]

Ahh, the ultimate nightmare.

[itsclearlynicholas]

Drunk driving is so worse 👀👀👀

[Kingofkings1992]

Not comparable

[Kingofkings1992]

Also, it’s pretty shitty of you to not leave a legitimate poll option for people who disagree with you

[OddBeMe]

You’re right it’s a philosophical fallacy. But just wanted to get thoughts on priorities.

[Anonymous]

Driving sober still get accused

[Anonymous]

ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS