Should we demand Equal Treatment for Electric Vehicles as they have for internal combustion engine (I. C. E.) cars for decades?

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Electric cars have been a popular  Save The Planet  solution, along with killing cows, for a while, now, although they are now in decline, Government still intends to force E. V's on us to take away more freedoms. So in the spirit of D. I. E., it seems only fair to impose the same kinds of government regulation on EV's that they have for I. C. E. engine's cars for decades. Here are some suggestions. *Mandate weight reductions in E. V. s by 2030, perhaps an industry wide 25 percent reduction from a current “corporate average weight” of the E. V. fleet. There would be heavy taxes and levies for failure to comply just as with the Gas Guzzler tax. *Mandate an end to dangerous lithium-based batteries by the year 2030. *In the spirit of cigarette warnings, mandate a giant warning label on the hood of every E. V. advising that foreign slaves and child labor were used to source the rare earth minerals in the car. *Ban E. V. s from parking garages due to the risk of runaway thermal fires. *Ban E. V. s from bridges due to their excessive weight. *Impose an annual 4-figure road tax on E. V. s since they don’t pay gasoline road taxes. Perhaps by electric volume purchased at chargers. *Assess a painful “scrapping fee” on the sale of every E. V. since they have such a short life span compared to I. C. E. cars. They do this with tires now. *Impose a state level E. V. added sales tax that is equal to any federal incentive subsidy amount applied to the sale of an E. V.'s. *Mandate petroleum-free tires on E. V. s to ensure the cars are truly net-zero, and that they don’t release toxic emissions. Use Natural rubber. As relates to E. V.'s, everyone should pay their  Fair Share  for them. If they work for you, buy one for each day of the week and change them like underwear. That way you might have one charged when you need to drive it. it. With the average EV price is around $67,000, isn't it worth paying double the price of a comparable, I. C. E. vehicle to  Save The Planet?

Levin · Accepted Answer

It will come. As soon as the government has a suitable proportion of the population using them, that's when the taxes will start rolling in.

The government is addicted to the money that comes in from vehicles. I believe about 50% of fuel costs is made up of tax and duty. Bear in mind at the time there was no reasonable alternative to ICE. They have built lots of cycle lanes in the town that I live and work in. Spent over 18 months doing so, made it a dismal affair to get to work with all the road works. All to make it 2 lanes rather than 3, and presumably spending an inordinate amount of money. All for something that no one ever uses. Come rush hour, I literally see no bikes using them. Or at best one every hour and then. Yeah, I'm really gonna cycle over 5 miles each way in the predominently British cold and rain to work. You know, I already work 8 hours a day for a pittance, to have a big chunk of it robbed in taxes. By all means I'd cycle to and fro places if I wasn't a wage slave.

But it amazes me just how dumb and gullible the population are. We have all these low emission schemes coming in, or in consultation or whatever with lots of signage. This is called posychological priming. They know they couldn't introduce this outright, because they would be told to fuck off. So it's a slow creep approach. Introduce the notion to us, soften us up a bit. 'Ah, only the very oldest most polluting vehicles will be impacted'. And err, how long do you reckon that will last? My vehicle is 15 years old. Obviously in due course I'm going to be charged for having the audacity to drive anywhere in my own fucking country. Or maybe I should just suck it up and shell out £40k for an EV where the battery will last 7 years and cost me 7 grand to replace. No thank you. Clearly a regressive taxation. But the liberal halfwits that infect our planet don't seem capable of any kind of critical thinking. Nor do those on the right, to be fair.

The best place for an EV is clearly up the government's arse. And up your arse, you, the person reading this, if you're in favour of such garbage technology.

Astarlessnightsky · Accepted Answer

*Mandate weight reductions in E. V. s by 2030.

good idea, also make the cars smaller, but all cars.

*Mandate an end to (dangerous) lithium-based batteries by the year 2030.

Technically good idea, the question is what alternatives would you use?

*In the spirit of cigarette warnings, mandate a giant warning label on the hood of every E. V. advising that foreign slaves and child labor were used to source the rare earth minerals in the car.

Why not ban child labour in general? Or make a warning label on every single product.
And not every bit of cobalt and lithium is mined with child labour. In fact most new lithium batteries don't even contain cobalt anymore.

*Ban E. V. s from parking garages due to the risk of runaway thermal fires.

Thats bullshit EVs are not at a higher risk to burst into flames than diesel or petrol cars.

*Ban E. V. s from bridges due to their excessive weight.

Seems over the top, EVs are slightly more heavy, but not so much, than it should matter, if your bridges are in a bad shape its not the EVs that are the problem.

*Impose an annual4-figure road tax on E. V. s since they don’t pay gasoline road taxes. Perhaps by electric volume purchased at chargers.

Sure they pay road taxes. But taxes on electricity are generally paid as well.

*Assess a painful “scrapping fee” on the sale of every E. V. since they have such a short life span compared to I. C. E. cars. They do this with tires now.

The "short lifespan" is from the li-ion batteries, which are replaced anyway, so i think thats obsolote.

*Impose a state level E. V. added sales tax that is equal to any federal incentive subsidy amount applied to the sale of an E. V.'s.

I don't see why this would be necessary or practicall.

*Mandate petroleum-free tires on E. V. s to ensure the cars are truly net-zero, and that they don’t release toxic emissions. Use Natural rubber.

Why only for E. V. s? Make it mandetory for all vehicles, every bit helps.

douride2 · Accepted Answer

I can't tell if your serious or just trolling the day away?

normalice · Answer

Only skimmed but you know what is way more dangerous than lithium ion batteries? A tank full of gasoline. Its just that when that catches fire it explodes so there's no long video of people standing helplessly by as it slowly burns. When you store energy its energy stored. There is no getting around that. Storing it in gasoline risks an abrupt explosion. Storing it in a battery risks a slow burn. I would argue the latter is actually less dangerous because you have a few seconds to see it coming and escape.

RavVid · Answer

I like your list! But how about an emissions tax for your part of coal power station emissions that you used to charge the EV.

OtterMan68 · Answer

" Government still intends to force E. V's on us to take away more freedoms" So by what year will we have to turn in our non-EVs or at least not be able to buy a non EV?

FunkyMonkee · Answer

We have cards that run on water! I don't see why we can't just use those.

BLP11520 · Answer

Good luck with that you may be stuck with electricity and some parts of this country😐

Dongie · Answer

😯🤯  BRAVO👏👏🎩

exitseven · Answer

Well done Mr. Dargil

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