Is it possible for Obama to be President again, even after serving twice?

[Daniela1982]

The rules say he can only serve 2 terms due to Presidential Term Limits. But he COULD be President again if he ran as Biden's Vice President and then took over when Biden could no longer serve. Is this a way for the Dems to beat Trump? Would Obama being President again be a disaster for US Taxpayers?

No! Don't get rid of me. I'll be good!

[Cice137]

He spied on trump, bought a house a few blocks away to never stop spying, would fly over to meetup with world leaders that Trump met with.

At least G. W Jr would learn how to paint in his off time. Barrys hobby is to defend the lie that he was "scandal free," during his presidency.

This was during 2017-2021 and now he's still telling Joe what to do.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/BUMeS-fWvOs

If Michelle gets the nomination after Joe secures it first; she would in effect be another proxy stand-in for Barrys fourth term. Would be odd if Joe is removed via the 25th amendment. Many of his staff has recently quit.

Kamala won't be replaced with Newsom, wouldn't seem right replacing a minority woman with him. If a SCOTUS steps down she could fill that seat. Joe only has to get nominated for someone else to fit the role as a last minute replacement.

[Astarlessnightsky]

I literally know nothing about this specific situation, but I don't think so. If such a loophole would exist it would have been used already at least once.

I am certain if Vice President Obama would be in the situation where under normal circumstances he would have to take over, there would be another one obligated to take over.

Either another Election, where VP Obama would handle the Presidential Affairs but not be President, until another President is elected.

Or the Supreme Court would assign a Stand in President.

Or something else.

[Anonymous]

technically, no he cannot. a president cannot rerun after 2 terms (and thank god for that). it is the 22nd amendment in which it limits the number of times a person can be elected president to 2 terms. obama has already done the 2 terms. the amendment prohibits anyone who has been elected president twice from being elected again. so there ya go.

[Daniela1982]

Had you read what I said completely, he could if he were Biden's VP and Biden was removed from office from being unfit. Then Obama would not have been re-elected as President.

[OlderAndWiser]

Under the Twelfth Amendment, "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States."

[loveslongnails]

Excuuuusssssssssssse me, but who's tax cuts for the rich are now permanent, while the ones for everyone else expired in 2022? Who's tax cuts added almost a trillion dollars to the national debt? Hmm... let me think... wait for it... NOT Obama! LOL I believe his name Traitor Trump. Yeah, that's the guy.

Oh by the way, since facts are not the strong point of this post, he Obama administration deported over 1.3 million illegal aliens, the most since Eisenhower, compared to 749,500 for Trump. The most dramatic change under Trump was Legal Immigration caps, which went from 45,000 to 18,000 annually.

[Daniela1982]

And Obama also made a couple million illegals citizens by giving them amnesty because of the time they had been in the US.

[loveslongnails]

That's right, and do you know how many of those couple of million people were paying taxes, and how much they paid - those people paid MORE in taxes than your boy Trump paid, or the corporations he gave tax breaks to. All your doing now are echoing talking points that have long since been debunked.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@loveslongnails That's 1.3 million deportations for Obama over 2 terms. Trump's 749,500 deportations was during just 1 term, and in reality, it's really just over 3 years, because once the pandemic shutdown started in March 2020, no one was going in or out of anywhere.

[Daniela1982]

I call BS! Most worked under the table, and like today, most probably didn't even have jobs. Unlike legal immigrants that have to have a sponsor that guarantees they will have a place to live and a job. Biden gave them all cushy hotels to live in and a whole bunch of freebies that even our own homeless and Vets don't get. I'm sure they would love to have a $10,000 debit card. 🙄🙄

[NYCQuestions1976]

@daniela1982 The debit cards can only be used for food and diapers, and they're not quite getting a blanket $10,000 or $1,000 per card. It's $13 a day:

www.fox5ny.com/.../migrants-pre-paid-credit-card-explained

www.cbsnews.com/.../

The program is still extremely infuriating though, because this dumb idea is costing New York City taxpayers $53 million. I agree with you that illegal immigrants are being treated better than our own citizens.

[Daniela1982]

@NYCQuestions1976 Thanks for clearing the debit card question up. I've heard a lot of different things on it.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Daniela1982 Yeah I like how liberal New York City politicians claim "we're saving $7 million with this program". No, you're still wasting $53 million instead of wasting $60 million.

[loveslongnails]

Cushy hotels? LMAO You do nothing but echo debunked talking points. You're a cliche.
You can call BS all you want, but you obviously can't look up simple numbers. You deny anything that proves Trump to be a liar because it's what you WANT to believe. Like most maga's, incapable of critical analysis.

[Daniela1982]

@loveslongnails And your buddy Biden is any better? PA-LEESE!! He probably needs help finding the toilet paper in the White House bathroom. That is if he can find it without someone holding his hand to the door.
🙄😂🤣😅

[loveslongnails]

Biden is not my favorite. I don't want him either, but forced to choose, he's a landslide over Trump any day. He's not my buddy, he's the lesser of two evils right now.

Speaking of dementia, your guy thinks Biden beat Obama in an election. He thinks Nancy Pelosi is Nicky Haley. He also thinks that anyone who tells the truth about him is lying, even those who worked in his cabinet and saw him every day. His incompetence is endless.

Daniela, what you REALLY need to ask yourself is WHY you continue to ignore all facts that disprove every one of your points, and continue to align yourself with a traitor who doesn't care ONE bit about you, and even less about this country? Forget "Biden". The point is, no matter HOW GREAT of an opponent Trump would have, you'd STILL choose a lying, narcissistic con-man traitor, who has already TOLD YOU he will end Democracy as you know it.

You'd still choose him. The only question here worth discussing, is WHY >?>>>?

[NYCQuestions1976]

@loveslongnails I realize your question "Why?" wasn't necessarily directed at me, but it's definitely a valid question. So I've got four primary reasons: 1.) A lot of what Trump has allegedly said and done has been exaggerated and/or twisted by the mainstream media; 2.) The country was successfully humming along during the Trump administration (until Covid, which wasn't his fault); 3.) Other than the Infrastructure Bill, the Biden administration has been an unmitigated disaster. All Biden had to do to make Trump a political afterthought is to just "not suck" as President, and he couldn't even manage to do that; and 4.) Far-left liberals and socialists absolutely hate Trump, so that automatically tells me that he's good for the United States, because at their very core, regardless of what they claim, far-left liberals and socialists also hate this country. So being given the choice between a jerk and an idiot, I've got to go with the jerk.

[Daniela1982]

To me Trum is the lesser of two evils. He is not perfect for sure. Unfortunately, no one else feels they can beat either as they all dropped out of the race - so far that is. Another thing that makes Trum look better is because our current government is doing everything to screw Trump over, while Biden is doing some of the same things - like having classified documents at home. Plus Biden's son is something else. He should be in prison but is not because of Biden's influence. Our whole government is screwed up and I'm not sure it can be fixed by anyone, much less Biden. At least Trump will do something about illegal immigration. With all the scum that has been let in by Biden, I don't think anyone can fix it easily. I'm guessing, but if Trump gets elected and some terrorism takes place, like a bigger 9/11, I imagine Trump will get blamed, not Biden. 😫🙄

[loveslongnails]

@NYCQuestions1976 I'm not going to debate you because I don't accept your premises. Not only are they statistically incorrect, you sound like Fox News all over again. You lace your "analysis" with empty "op-eds", like "all he had to do is not suck" - which is completely meaningless.

What's worse however, is how you're missing one essential point, which is astonishing actually. Your jerk has already said he'd end Democracy as we know it. He's already aligned himself with project 2025, which if you haven't read, should scare the fucking crap out of you. Yet, you'd choose him. Your jerk will welcome Christian Nationalism and the onset of fascism as rule. That's not my "opinion"; he's said it. Apparently, you're ok with that.

Secondary points include his past behavior, "much" of which you say has been exaggerated. It has not. It's in plain sight. His theft of top secret documents which he FOUGHT to retain in court, like NO OTHER PRESIDENT has EVER done, is not an exaggeration, it's criminal. You ALSO choose to ignore the explicit warnings of those who worked directly with him at the closest levels - warnings of his complete, idiotic incompetence. Somehow, you can disregard this.

The country was not "humming along" because of anything Trump did. He inherited a spectacular recovery after Bush destroyed the economy, and he added trillions to the debt while giving unheard of tax relief to the wealthy. None of that is "an exaggeration". We've had this discussion before, and I'm not going there again.

[loveslongnails]

Trump DID nothing about illegal immigration. Look up the numbers. He and the R's had full control of Congress, and they DID nothing. The only thing he reduced was "legal immigration". Biden's son? For God's sake. Where'd that investigation go other than to find that YOUR star witness was a paid operative.

Fox News echoes - that's all you bring here. Why don't you watch CSPAN and listen to what's said at the hearings? Hmm?

[NYCQuestions1976]

@loveslongnails The "lag" from one administration to the next is only good/bad/indifferent for about 6 months. You can't praise Obama for the economy during his administration and fixing the damages from the Bush's administration and then also not give Trump any credit for the economy during his administration after Obama's administration, which added plenty of their own spending debt during their 8 years:

www.usatoday.com/.../

If we're going to call balls and strikes, we need to call ALL of the balls and strikes. I could say you're just posting CNN and MSNBC talking points and be completely correct. The bottom line is this: If Trump is elected again, it'll be because of Biden's blatant incompetence. That's not an opinion; that's an observation based on our current reality.

If you can, please provide the link which shows an unedited version of Trump claiming he wants to end democracy (trolling sarcasm doesn't count), and a link that clearly shows Trump's support of the 2025 organization you mentioned. Thanks.

[loveslongnails]

@NYCQuestions1976
* I'm not here to do your homework, and no, that's not a cop out. Go find it yourself. MORE importantly, have you even READ Project 2025?
* I'm also not doing, yet again, a discussion of "all the bad things Trump did and said, and the few good ones", with anyone - not maga's, Trumper's, academics, etc. I'm exhausted from it. You either have your facts or you don't, we're not changing each other's minds.
* Trump doesn't have to utter the words "I support project 2025" to understand that the policies, projects and goals laid out in it were written by his staunch supporters, and that he agrees with them. He WILL be their dupe, and that's an observation based on current reality too.
* I don't watch CNN or MSNBC, so I have zero idea what they're talking about
* I've said this a 100 times; I'm not a "Biden Fan" either. I'm not PRO-BIDEN because I'm ANTI-TRUMP!! I'd be anti-Trump no matter what. Biden has done several good things, but I don't want him in again, nor do I want Trump either. But we will not survive another Trump term.

[loveslongnails]

@NYCQuestions1976 This statement here: " The "lag" from one administration to the next is only good/bad/indifferent for about 6 months." Not according to Republican pundits and Congressional leaders. According to them, it lasts at least 2 years... except when it doesn't fit their narrative. When George H. Bush succeeded Reagan, Republicans claimed all was grand for his first few years due Reagan's policies. But when Trump took over for Obama, they said no such thing. Instead, they pointed to the fact that Republicans controlled both houses of Congress and the Presidency, so ZERO effect from Obama's policies? Here's the Pew Research Center's scorecard on the 115th Congress; mostly ceremonial:
www.pewresearch.org/.../

Point being, the Republican held Congress passed no major or significant legislation during those 2 years in control, but anything that was "good" during that time, was to their credit. Of course, that's the way politics works.

Have a nice afternoon.

[Daniela1982]

@loveslongnails So if neither Trump or Biden is worth shit, what are we to do? If Biden is voted in you know that he won't be able to finish his term. In fact, I'm pretty sure someone else is running the show, like maybe Obama? It sure isn't Biden. He just signs what is put in front of him and reads from the teleprompter. He doesn't even seem to know where he is or which way to walk half the time. So what we really have to worry about is who is going to be Vice President - the one to take the reins when Biden is removed for being incompetent. Who do you think is a viable Democrat to run with Biden? Is someone going to step in at the last moment and get elected? Let me hear what you think, if both Biden and Trump are both out. I'll tell you right off that Gavin Newsome is a fucktard as California Governor, and I think he would screw the country up as President, much worse than Biden or Trump. So who should be President who would keep family values and the Christian ways of the original signers of the Constitution and Bill of rights?

[loveslongnails]

You were doing fine until this: "So who should be President who would keep family values and the Christian ways of the original signers of the Constitution and Bill of rights?"

How many times does this have to get said; the Founders wanted no part of Christianity mixed with government. The term "God" is never found in the Constitution, other than the formulation of the date which reads "In the year of our Lord". The word "family" is never used in the Constitution. There has also NEVER been a President or candidate to my knowledge who EVER ran on a platform of decentralizing the family. There are some who wanted to expand the idea however, but none who ever spoke against its value. Actions are louder than words though - Trump has had 3 wives and countless affairs and dalliances, paid off a porn star, yet portrays himself as a Christian family man?

Consider this Daniela; other than Obama and Clinton who speak coherently and sensibly, the last two Presidents have been old bumblers (Biden and Trump), and before that, George W. Bush was also a bumbling dolt, as well as Gerald Ford. Reaganomics ruined the middle class. Truthfully, I think anyone who really WANTS to be President is already disqualified - it's a shit job.

That said, there NO Democrats or Republicans I can think of who "should" be President, but only a couple of Dems I wouldn't mind, and no Repubs at this point except possibly Asa Hutchinson. I think Jeff Jackson would do a good job, as would Gretchen Widmer would do a good job. They're both young enough and still not totally "soiled" - no one is perfect.

Honestly, I hope they both withdraw, and soon.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@Daniela1982 "Separation of Church and State".

@loveslongnails Yes I agree we won't agree, so we'll just agree on that.

[888theGreat]

Yes , if he replaced VP and then President was killed or died or went to a nursing home. He could serve the rest of the term. LBJ served out JFK's time after he had him shot , the got elected , and was going to run again until until he got his ass Vietnamed and dropped out. Then Nixon won , won again , then drowned in Watergate and Ford took over then ran for President and could have ran again if he didn't get ran over by a giant peanut called Carter. It looks like Trump will win a third time or will he , if not he plans to run a 4th time.

The rule is you can't run a third time for President. Vice President is a separate office. Different house and everything. So you could run for office of VP , then be Appointed President. Appointed , not elected. So Obama has 8 years and could serve 4 more years if VP and and current President leaves office.

You think the lying , BS , SOB's have that in mind?

[NYCQuestions1976]

In this specific scenario, they'd skip over Obama because he's already served 2 terms and the Speaker Of The House would be sworn in as President. Obama would remain Vice President. Truman, Johnson, and Ford hadn't been President yet when they took over as President. The rule is a maximum of 2 terms or 10 years.

[888theGreat]

@NYCQuestions1976 Keep thinking that , no way Democrats allowed that. They don't go by the Constitution. Democrats can replace Magic School bus with Obama before election and then Biden would win and step down for health reasons , then Obama is President for 4 more years.

[NYCQuestions1976]

@888thegreat It definitely fits the Democrats' hypocrisy profile, after falsely claiming for years that Trump wants to be "President for life". However, I don't believe Obama himself would go along with this plan, which would basically have him throwing Harris under the bus. As much as I disagree with Obama politically, he's not H. Clinton, Wasserman-Schultz, or Biden.

[Daniela1982]

🤔👀🙈🙉🙊

[exitseven]

According to the Constitution he can only serve two terms. However, the democrats only pay attention to the parts of the Constitution that benefits them and pretends the rest does not exist. He is running the country from behind the scenes anyway. Most of Bidens staffers are former Obama people.

[Surely]

The 22nd Amendment: Defining Presidential Terms
The relevant section of the 22nd Amendmentdefining presidential terms reads:

"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once."
Ten years as president seems to be the max.
So Obama couldn’t be VP in case something happened to Joey before serving two years. Following the rules (?) he could only be eligible to serve as President for two additional years.

[JacobJordan]

No Obama can't be acting president again. He would admittedly be a better choice than biden but dems can only win the election by committing electoral fraud.

[NYCQuestions1976]

No, because if Biden died in office, Obama would remain Vice President, because he served 2 terms. The Speaker Of The House would be sworn in as President.

[Daniela1982]

Didn't Johnson do 3 terms? He finished off Kennedy's and then had 2 terms of his own.

[NYCQuestions1976]

No. Johnson took over in 1963 after Kennedy was assassinated, was elected in 1964, and then lost to Nixon in 1968.

[Mangospacho]

It’s two consecutive terms. You can be president for 8 years at a time. I don’t think he will run again. Michelle doesn’t like the political life, it seems.

[Daniela1982]

Do people not read the whole question before answering?

[Mangospacho]

We don’t do that kind of thing here

[Daniela1982]

I've noticed. 😯😝

[OlderAndWiser]

"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once." 22nd Amendment

No mention of "consecutive." That is a common misunderstanding.

[Mangospacho]

@OlderAndWiser I stand corrected. I didn’t know we were allowed to go and read the constitution.

[OlderAndWiser]

Everybody has things they know. I am a lawyer. These are the things I know.

[Dargil]

If they get Kamala to step down and Biden names Obama as VP and then he steps down or goes room temp, yes.

[Massageman]

possible. possibly. YES!

he seems to already be the proverbial armchair quarterback now - - - - - - - - -

[worldscolide]

Legally he can only serve two terms. Unfortunately Leftists and dems only follow the laws which benefit them,

[worldscolide]

On that same token there are possible ways he could get back in, If his wife became president, or if he ran as vice president to biden, On that same token they would have to hold a special election before the term was out because he would still be illegitimate.

[gorydetails]

he can by installing a puppet proxy into the white house who is easily manipulated.

[TonyMetal___86]

I can't imagine someone other than donald trump for the united states presidency...

[Likes2drive]

I doubt it could happen, maybe Michelle can but not him

[normalice]

No. Nit unless the constitution was changed.

[FunkyMonkee]

He's already on his third term, now!

[you_asked]

This is true

[Daniela1982]

But not officially. More like a puppet master.

[FunkyMonkee]

Exactly!! Instead of Papa Gepeto, he's Papa Soetoro and he manipulates his little puppet, Pinoccijoe!!

[SnackTime]

I don’t see, why not.

[Pterodon]

God I hope not

[OddBeMe]

Thanks to FDR…no. Stupid constitution.

[Jerre]

That will never happen.