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…Or it’s so bad Dems should suffer and be impeached? Getting mixed signals from MagaLand. Which is crazy because they’re usually so lucid! :)
It doesn’t help when Repubs think their own voters are too stupid to care about business fraud:
Terrible day for the cult. The entire justice system isn't being rigged by Biden against them. Possibly some of the cult members have a few brain cells still and realize everything he says is crap. Most of them are beyond hope but I'd estimate 0 votes were lost by Biden today but Republicans lost one of their favorite talking points and anyone who mysteriously began to support Trump because of his conviction can see him for the criminal conman grifter that he is, and not some victim of a mass conspiracy against him that he claims. It's a total disaster for the cult.
More fuel for the outrage industrial complex of cult media. Changed nothing. Theyre still trying to sing his praises with Trump's cock in their mouth.
The trial was so outlandish and there was never a crime that saw articulated. All the democrats would say was some vague document forging case. They failed to say why it was illegal and nobody mentioned the fact that the charges were past the statute of limitations/ The visitors log at the White house clearly lists. Letisha James, Fani Willis and her boyfriend, and Alvin Bragg. Matt Colangelo who was a high ranking lawyer in Biden's DOJ even went to New York to help Alvin Bragg make up a case against President Trump. Americans are not stupid and realize all these indictments were a way to keep Biden in the White House. They know that Biden could never get re[elected in a fair election. He is behind on all the polls and every day Biden bumbles his way through his abbreviated days, It is obvious he is suffering from dementia.
@exitseven So I can vacation in Tahiti and tell the IRS it was a business expense? That’s legal?
I don’t think anyone who follows trump is surprised by this. Like him or not they were obviously going to get him with SOMETHING eventually.
but I wouldn’t call it a bad day for trump supporters, just a sad one for the country.
Everything from the courts to the prosecution to the setup to the social reaction symbolizes how helplessly lost we are as a country.
who would have thought the military industrial complex would end up being the thing that keeps us going
His fanbase is really tiny. The rest on the fence believe in the justice system. Facts matter. He was convicted. He was also impeached, twice.
These both had their turn. Next.
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Independents get an ick when "felon" and "POTUS" are strung together accurately.
Yes. Yes he is with 3 more trials pending. But to be fair, in his four years off he did add sexual assault, pardoning criminal cronies, tax & insurance fraud and being barred from any charity involvement in his home state to his resume...
@Juxtapose His own post shows that 45% of independent voters believe that the New York verdict was politically motivated. 45%! Yet all the lemmings continue to whistle past the graveyard. It's hilarious.
It's a funny thing, but people believing something false doesn't make it true, and besides, even if it were "politically motivated" that doesn't mean the trial and verdict weren't valid. Two juries of citizens had to be convinced that the crimes were real and that Trump committed them. They weren't politicians.
@goaded There were at least a dozen reversible errors that transpired from the very beginning of the case to the very end of the case. Only a fool would believe otherwise. However you go right ahead in believing falsehoods. The case will be overturned by the Appellate Court sometime in late 2025, about a year into Trump's second term as President of the United States. If by some dumb chance the case is not reversed, the Supreme Court is going to rule in favor of immunity anyway. Start buying your antacids and aspirin now. 👍
No, there weren't. I notice you didn't answer how you supposedly know the grand jury vote. All you know is that a majority agreed there was a crime, and Trump was probably guilty. Those votes are secret.
SCOTUS are going to delay the trials until after the election, they're not going to sign a suicide pact by saying a president can legally have them executed.
OK, where was it released? Because I'm pretty sure that the only information that comes out about a grand jury is an indictment (or not). There has to be 16-23 people on the grand jury and at least 12 of them have to vote to approve the indictment.
Show me somewhere that says the vote was not unanimous (not that it makes the slightest difference), because I think you're grasping at non-existant straws.
Trump was found GUILTY by a unanimous trial jury of his peers, on all 34 counts.
@goaded Trump was found guilty of expired state misdemeanors, that were magically and illegally turned into federal felonies, in a state court, by a local prosecutor, in front of a state judge with direct financial family ties to Biden and Democrats, by a local jury, in a county that's nearly 90% Democrats. That's what happened. Now go be stupid and gullible somewhere else.
You could simply say "yes, Trump was convicted". But you had to pack in a load of lies.
They were felonies (5 year SoL in NY), there was one year and 47 days extension to the SoL (for everyone in the state, not just Trump) starting in March 2020 due to the pandemic. The law also provides for time spent living out of state (e. g. at the White House) not to count towards the SoL, but that wasn't needed.
Yes, it's a state court, state laws, too. What's your problem with that?
"direct financial family ties to Biden" aka a $15 donation to Biden's campaign. I'm sure he was thanked personally by Biden and treated to dinner at the White House for that.
Yes, it was a local jury, because that's where the crimes were committed, that's how it works in literally every case. Did you know that one of the jurors got their "news" from Truth Social? Even he found the evidence convincing beyond a reasonable doubt.
@NYCQuestions1976 So are you anti-law and order now?
Looking at your own link…what do the ODDS say who will win the election? Not the bettors, the ODDS.
www.oddschecker.com/.../20240606-2024-presidential-election-odds-69pp-of-bettors-backing-donald-trump-to-win
@OddBeMe I just answered this on the other thread, and I'm not typing it out again for both of you mentally challenged marshmallows. So Copy & Paste it is:
Have you lost your tiny fucking mind? They don't always put the $ because they don't expect dummies (you) needing to be spoon-fed the rules. It's called betting the MONEY LINE instead of the POINT/RUN/GOAL SPREAD. A football example:
Point spread lines:
Away @ (-6.5) Home.
(The home team is 6½ point favorites.)
Away @ (+6.5) Home.
(The home team is 6½ point underdogs.)
Money lines:
Away (+150) @ Home (-100)
(The home team is the favorite, and you need to put up $100 to win $100.)
Away (-100) @ Home (+150)
(The home team is the underdog, and you need to put up $150 to win $100.)
In the Presidential election race, Trump (-100) is the favorite, and Biden (+178) is the underdog.
@goaded Neither do I, but professional gamblers aren't in the business of *deliberately* losing money, and following the betting trends are better than polling, because far more of the general public are involved in making bets than answering polls, and where the money is being put down is definitely a more accurate forecasting tool than asking people who they *want* to win. Also, I'm not answering your blatantly stupid questions.
@goaded You learned how to count. How nice.
https://youtu.be/bncke76z4cw?si=ry_RRMRLwr2WTvF_
@OddBeMe The current line is Trump -$100 (favorite), Biden +178 (underdog). That means you need to place a $100 wager on Trump to win $100, but you need to place a $178 wager on Biden to win the same $100.
Yes, Vegas and other gambling establishments make billions. However, if you've ever paid attention to NFL point spreads when they first come out, the lines jump around a lot for the first 48 hours or so, before settling down later in the week. It's because they all want as close to even money on both sides of the spread as possible, and they don't want gigantic underdog payouts happening frequently, like when the Giants, at around 12 to 14 point underdogs, outright beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl after the 2007 season:
www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs07/news/story?id=3232876
Money lines work similarly. If a favorite and an underdog are close, the money line would be something like "Favorite -$100, Underdog +$110". The bigger the spread between the two money numbers, the bigger the favorite, and the bigger the underdog:
www.predictem.com/.../
So even though there are no election point spreads, the current money line (Trump -$100, Biden +$178) tells an important two-part story: With 4½ months to go before the election, Trump is the current favorite, and it's actually not that close.
Your lack of response prompted my opinion on Is a Person Considered Guilty when they Refuse to Produce the Proof you ask? ↗ "if I ask someone a simple yes or no question and they refuse to answer, I'm pretty certain they agree with me but it doesn't match their political position."
"stupid... stupid... Stupid... stupid..." That's your excuse for not answering "does the United States allow its people to choose their leaders by voting?".
"if I ask someone a simple yes or no question and they refuse to answer, I'm pretty certain they agree with me but it doesn't match their political position."
Is a Person Considered Guilty when they Refuse to Produce the Proof you ask? ↗
@goaded Asking someone if people vote for other people isn't a political position, Dingleberry. It's like someone wondering if the orange juice thinks that it tastes good. It's pointless and makes no sense.
So yes, you, and your question, are stupid. Four times over, as you typed, if you like. Idiot's choice. I'm feeling generous today.
As an independent who hats both Trump and Biden, I have to say sadly yes, Trumps convictions will help Republicans. Not a good look on Democrats waiting till close to election time to convict Trump, paints the picture that are too weak to win and have to resort to using the courts to win. Maybe if the DNC would quit rigging their primaries for terrible candidates like Biden, then maybe they wouldn't have to worry they might lose to a dufus like Trump.
Some independent voters doesn't see his conviction has him being guilty, they see it as Biden being weak and his administration being corrupt enough to get rid of his political through the courts instead of at the ballot box. Trump's conviction would have been viewed a little differently had it happened during Biden's first year in office and not close to election time. Not saying Trump isn't guilty, but innocent people have been convicted via corruption which is what some voters is happening with Trump. I myself could care less weather Trump is convicted or not, doesn't change the fact that he a conman being used to divide the Republican party.
Your the one blindly following and believing everything the corrupt DNC establishment says and does, yet I'm the idiot LMFAO. Your no smarter then Republicans blindly following and believing the GOP establishment.
The entire Democratic party is the DNC establishment, including your savior Biden. You can throw baseless smears all you want, I hate Trump and I get my news from independent news outlets, as all MSM outlets, left and right are corrupt and do the bidding of their big money donors.
Independent news doesn't mean idiots, there are plenty of minority/small news outlets that provide unbiased opinions and isn't afraid to call it like it.
It is good for Trump votes. Dems dont realize they make martyr of him. And Trump can go say "Look what they do with their fake news, you need to vote for me to stop this shit and make america great again"
Far-left liberals, socialists, and progressives in this country fail to understand that they're handing Trump the 2024 election on a platinum platter. It's fun to watch unfold.
@NYCQuestions1976 they're so desperate xD
Yes, and obsessed. Strand by strand, it's all unraveling for them:
www.yahoo.com/.../...sh-money-trial-213500152.html
https://youtu.be/006aiQFZmg8?si=ahaNhd5QvluxMpZ-
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