Do you support Trump's latest immigration plan?

[OtterMan68]

"What I want to do, and what I will do, is — you graduate from a college, I think you should get automatically, as part of your diploma, a green card to be able to stay in this country... And that includes junior colleges, too."

Yes, we need to keep educated, skilled immigrants in the country

No, we don't need more immigrants regardless of skill or education level

Yes, but only if the graduates came here legally

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I would imagine all of those who say "I'm not anti-immigrant, just anti-illegal immigrant" GOP members would vote for the third option

[MisterWack]

Let me be clear, Trump doesn’t have a plan or a great plan or any plan. As a former Trump supporter he promised he would repeal Obamacare and put in his awesome, incredible, amazing plan (I supported that)

Guess what? Trump flip flopped, he now supports expansion of Obamacare (Affordable Care Act). Where’s the plan? It never existed.

Trump had a plan to ban TikTok back in 2020 if reelected, guess what? He flip flopped now TikTok is saved in 2024 even though he admits it is a Chinese govt threat stealing our data along with the other old geezer Republicans in Congress/Senate.

Trump had a plan to defeat ISIS, when pushed on the plan he covered it up saying “I can’t say it, they’ll hear me and it will be ruined”…. ISIS is still out there.

Trump had an infrastructure plan back in 2015, guess who got it done? President Biden.

Trump has no plans, Biden’s administration when they got to the White House they wanted to put their Pandemic Plan into action with help of the previous administration’s already established plan…. They found no plan.

Don’t vote for the guy with faulty plans and flip flopping BS, Vote President Biden!

[Dargil]

I would agree to this for student or expired work or student holders who managed to get higher education creds

[Anonymous]

He has no plan for anything, ever. Just listen to that time his bff from fox news asked him about his plan for his second term and he babbled incoherently about a beautiful plan and said nothing. l of substance, as usual. Please one non-senile human with half a brain, get on the ballot for us.

[katiesmuff]

In my opinion only way for an immigrant to stay in this country is to have come in legally.

[Juxtapose]

Fuck yeah!

[D_Bone_Steak]

I think it's obvious he's protecting the jobs of American citizens on the lower level of things. Think McDonalds and Burger King. By flooding our country with economic migrants, you're just stripping the jobs from High School kids and our low achievers and they'll never get a start on the way up the social ladder. On top of that it drives up housing costs and now they'll never own a home.

The reason the left wants migrants so bad, is because these migrants will go to densely populated areas which are 'vote blue no matter who' areas... and once the census hits, more congressional seats for the blue team. Which means they can continue trying to enforce their inner-city/urban values on people that have no part in their overpopulated lifestyle.

So yes, I support Trump's plan because my other option is everything I just stated above.

Now I will get ready for all the smarty pants to come at me with their retarded uninformed takes about it.

[Red_Arrow]

No need to come at you with retarded uninformed takes. Yours is already that.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Red_Arrow Dude look at you... you just went full retard... so just stop talking.

[Red_Arrow]

And you are still retarding further.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Red_Arrow You libardally haven't said anything. You haven't refuted shit. No counter point.

You just don't like it and big mad. Cry more... do you need a safe space? Maybe we can retard a room for you with padded surfaces and put a football helmet on you. Don't forget the kneepads!

Since you want to talk with the adults instead of staying at the kid table... tell me how I'm wrong little buddy. Or am I just retarded because you got called that first, indirectly, and that's all your smooth brain can come up with? ... if that's the case, you outed yourself on that... that's a you problem little guy.

[Red_Arrow]

I made my points under my opinion. Trump has been calling anything that sounds good to a lot of people his idea when he originally said the opposite. Biden came out with a plan to keep educated immigrants here, and Trump suddenly comes up with a similar plan after years of saying we should keep them out. Biden tries to keep families together and Trump wants to ship the part of the family not born here out. But Melania was Slovenian and was here working as a model. Trump got her an EB-1 Visa which is reserved for immigrants with special skills and awards such as a Nobel prize, or an outstanding sports skill. Melania had none of those. Then she used her citizenship to sponsor her parents, bringing her family in, which Trump has been saying the U, S, should not do.
So I already gave you reasons in my opinion, and now I have educated you even more. And I outed myself on knowing more than you.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Red_Arrow Well, alright. Now you're saying something of value and worth thinking about. I mean Biden has backtracked and flip-flopped on a lot of shit too... that's a politician for ya, and it don't matter what side of the fence they're on, if they're even on opposite sides half the time.

That Melania stuff is juicy though. I'll admit I never even thought about her. I will have to look into that. But before I start doing my research, omnipotent big-brained one, what am I going to find? Was she an illegal who was breaking the law to get here? Did she suck up a bunch of socialist program benefits in the process? Did she take a section 8 house and walked past homeless vets to go buy food with her EBT card? How about the family she brought here... they do any of that?

So yeah your new info sounds a bit spicy, but I do a little more than just get riled up like it's a real "gotcha" moment.

So no conflict with anything I said still? I didn't go down to your opinion and just start calling you names... you're really winning hearts and minds with that bullshit. Instead, what do I get?

... a random factoid about Trump's wife's immigration that's supposed to point out hypocrisy when compared to illegal criminals flooding the nation, along with drugs, human trafficking, taking up housing and jobs if they're not a pure criminal element, and benefiting off socialized programs that they haven't, and probably will not pay into with their own tax dollars.

I get it... you're just big mad because I didn't say "Orange man bad." I mean he's bad, but he's not that bad. I still think Biden is worse. You're not saying anything that would change that opinion... you're just bouncing to opinions that don't share your "Orange man bad" opinion and then calling them stupid. Grow the fuck up kiddo... start by trying to be civil in your approach instead of just coming off as a TDS suffering whiney bitch.

[D_Bone_Steak]

After Update: (This is for @OtterMan68 [Not the wannabe ANTIFA guy that's been hounding me]) I didn't register as Dem or Rep... I just vote for what's best in my humble opinion. But I think you're right. If I had a non-woke option that took economic and security issues more seriously than trans/black/whamen/bla bla bla (social issues)... then they'd have a vote from me. Imagine if Vivek or Ron... or even Tulsi Gabbard ran suddenly in a 3rd party... Trump just lost a vote.

The fact that it's Trump or more of this horse shit we've been going through though... kinda locks me in to vote Trump.

[Red_Arrow]

What are you going to find? Was she an illegal? Did she suck a lot of socialist program benefits? Did she take benefits from others? Etc. No. I told you what Trump did bringing her and her family into the country. No need for you to suggest that I was inferring anything more than I said. And my comment on your opinion was "No need to come at you with retarded uninformed takes. Yours is already that." You are now admitting that you were uninformed about what I said and that you did not look at my opinion first. And I used the word retarded because what you said was, "Now I will get ready for all the smarty pants to come at me with their retarded uninformed takes about it." So you were already calling my response retarded. You want people to be civil with you? Start being civil with them.

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Red_Arrow I didn't admit shit retard. You came at me retard. I didn't go to you retard. And you're still not saying shit retard.

Do us both a favor and go be retarded somewhere else.

[Red_Arrow]

I explained that you came at anyone who responded by saying they were retarded. And you did admit something when you said, :"Well, alright. Now you're saying something of value and worth thinking about." And now you are back to coming at me calling me retarded. Five times in three sentences. You don't even see what you have been saying. So I am done trying to communicate with you. Maybe somebody else would like your uncivil, uneducated nonsense. Goodbye!

[D_Bone_Steak]

@Red_Arrow By your own logic, you proved you were retarded and uniformed to begin with because you felt my message call out to you in particular. Your logic... not mine. Retard.

[Red_Arrow]

Trump has lied or misled on just about everything he has ever said. Lately he has been making promises which are in complete contradiction to what he has already promised. He is saying anything that might help him. The problem is that his supporters are too stupid to see through his BS. Most of the Christian Right is neither Christian not Right (as in correct). He has made it clear that if he is re-elected he will do whatever he wants with no regard to the legality of it. He has repeatedly stated that he will take revenge on everybody who has ever opposed anything he did. Only the nut jobs are voting for him. It is a sad state when so many Americans have lost enough brain cells to vote for him.

[Anonymous]

That's not a plan so much as one TINY piece of a plan. Given that the issue is too many people coming in and no control whatsoever, allowing college grads to stay does precisely NOTHING to solve the actual problem. Here's what a reasonable "plan" would look like:

End birthright citizenship. Unless someone is a child of a US citizen, they should have no claim to citizenship by virtue of having been born in the US. This is how literally almost EVERY country works.

PERMANENTLY deny citizenship to any anyone caught breaking immigration laws.

Massively increase the border patrol budget and use the US military to back them up at the Southern border.

Make it a crime to employ people in the country illegally. This reduces the economic incentive to come in the first place.

Deport liberally.

[Wolf_Thunderspirit]

Look - I think the wall is a ridiculous waste of Taxpayer money. Taxpayer Money. Trump gave you promises that Mexico would pay for it, yeah? How'd that work out? And see - there's these things called planes and helicopters. Unless you're building that wall into outter space, it's probably not keeping anyone out.

[Kaneki05]

Don't worry he'll build that wall and make Mexico pay for it just give him time have faith.
Good thing is I ain't a person of faith.
Couldn't care about immigration or anyone who pretends to have any answer it's simply a buzz word they love to use to try get people to vote for them, 'I'll solve it guys trust me.'

[exitseven]

There are a couple of things wrong with this. The first of course is that people should not be rewarded for disregarding American laws. Also there will be scammers that will be selling worthless degrees just so they get to stay in the US.

[OtterMan68]

he didn't say "illegal aliens who graduate"

[exitseven]

@OtterMan68 I may have misunderstood this but maybe it was implied.

[KostasKouvalis]

I mean, I get where he's coming from. People are fed up with foreigners getting educated here, then going back to their home countries instead of contributing to the society and economy here. They're basically just using us.

[RebelinSteel]

So he is going to issue around 300,000 Chinese students green cards… that does not really seem to be forward thinking.

[Juxtapose]

Only if they come legally. We don't need to encourage people to break the law and then hope for a solution to pop out a thin air for them. We need to hold people accountable for their actions and for their intent.

[DryGermanGuy]

We are still waiting on his healthcare plan, with tears running down our faces… 🙄

[legalboxers]

he backtracked on this. He didn't want any H1B workers here. here's a news flash, the person behind this plan wants homogeneous people who look like them. They dont want people from "browning" countries.

[paledreams]

Lol to my foreign ears, it sounds too good to be true and too weird as well - like all of a sudden here's this policy and it's like vomits 🤢🤮

[RedInnocent69]

He’ll never do it, but it’s one of the smarter things he’s said.

[KrakenAttackin]

We will always need people who can offer skills.

[Anonymous]

It has always been to our advantage to welcome smart and highly qualified people to our country. It's crucial to our national security.

[Anonymous]

misterwack was never a Trump supporter, he's just saying that to try to give his specious argument credibility.

[LaurenM1997]

I don’t like trump so I’d say no