Do you support Trump?

[Anonymous]

[Reaperbot666]

• depending on how the next few months go. I plan to vote for him in the election.
• most people that hate him get their news from leftist media sources or social media memes.
• not many of them have watched him speak live.

[Sabretooth]

do i look like an idiot?

[Asker]

😂 Nope

[Sabretooth]

i stay out of polices-my religion teaches neutrality-nor do i trust them... elections, either, for that matter-we all know about russia-even if i did vote-i would never vote for. i didn't know much about trump-prior to his campaign-nor, did i really pay attention to the news-but the little i did hear told me that he was both inept and insane.

[Sabretooth]

thanks.

[Asker]

You’re welcome.

[Sabretooth]

still, i have enjoyed his buffoonery... with the exceptions to the crises.

[scetoaux]

I think he's a big ole orange haired douche. I'll vote for him over the shit sandwich.

[Bowdabra]

i have to vote for someone and i know that i am not voteing for Joe

[TadCurious]

Yes. There are a few things I would quibble with him about but in general I support him and his presidency.

[abc3643]

I support his demise and future imprisonment in New York.

[chc0009]

No, absolutely not. He's too whiny, lazy and rude to be president and failed to prevent the COVID-19 outbreak, since he was so busy working on his precious trade deal with China.

[Cage4]

I am not from the US. But he seems like a good choice I mean who else is there? Biden? I wouldn't vote for him if I was there lol. Hell naw. So basically I'd either vote for trump or not vote if I was American.

[ibodi]

Hard to image that is my business. No matter what there always good or bad

[Anonymous]

Yes he has been doing a great job unless you are someone who can only life off the government then you think he's doing a bad job.

[Browneye57]

Yes, absolutely. He's done more for this country than any other president in modern history. Exactly what he was voted in for. Get ready for four more years of MAGA.

[asshole_]

the day i support trump, is the day I've gone crazy

[Sabretooth]

Hear, hear.

[Anonymous]

I do, but since your from Turkey and can't this is a retarded question.

[Asker]

If you are aware, I didn’t express my opinion in the question. I’m asking you.

[Anonymous]

No. he's a bigger piece of shit than erdogan.

[Asker]

They can be both be a big piece of shit.

[Opinion Owner]

No one is a bigger piece of shit than trump.

[NorthwestRider]

I am not an idiot so nope

[hknmhmn4]

Yes I do even though I’m not an American

[Asker]

Why? Bullshit 😂

[hknmhmn4]

Not sure 😀 I find him funny

[Don-_-Don]

No, I don't.

[Rangers]

Of course i do

[Mr_Peterson]

Absolutely not.

[Dat-Alpha-Lion]

Indifferent

[crmoore]

Yes.

[Asker]

Why? Doesn’t his racism disturb you? or Are you racist too?

[crmoore]

I haven't seen anything that convinces me he's a racist, and I'm certainly not a racist. What have you seen that makes you think he's a racist?

[Asker]

From the his explains about the police killing blacks and of course from the his orders.

[crmoore]

Can you specifically quote what he said about the police and black people, and specifically quote or link the orders you're referring to?

[Asker]

I don’t think I can find it now.
If you can write on the Internet, you will already encounter.

[crmoore]

Well if I can write on the internet and find it, surely you can too, right? So can you please quote him saying something racist?

[abc3643]

The United States Government SUED him for being a racist in practice violating federal law 1973. Had Trump not settled out of court, he would have been convicted and then could not have run for President... ever.

[crmoore]

Alright, what federal law did he violate, and how did he violate it?

[abc3643]

Fair Housing Act of 1968, Title 42 United States Code Section 3601 " et seq " which means later sections.

This is how the Department of Justice describes it:
https://www.justice.gov/crt/fair-housing-act-1
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Fair Housing Act

The Fair Housing Act, 42 U. S. C. 3601 et seq., prohibits discrimination by direct providers of housing, such as landlords and real estate companies as well as other entities, such as municipalities, banks or other lending institutions and homeowners insurance companies whose discriminatory practices make housing unavailable to persons because of:

race or color
religion
sex
national origin
familial status, or
disability.
=====

This is the charge against the Trumps filed by the Nixon Administration.

www.clearinghouse.net/.../FH-NY-0024-0034.pdf

The Washington Post describes the history:
www.washingtonpost.com/.../...36b394160_story.html

[crmoore]

I truly appreciate the time you took to gather this, but at 11:50 at night, I'm not sure I can read a 30 page PDF, an article, and the legality of the fair-housing act.

But I did briefly skim, it seems as though the employees that worked on some organization he owned had been alleged to discriminating. Are you familiar with all the things you linked, and if yes, can you direct me specifically to where Trump had a direct influence on the discrimination? Also, was Trump convinced? You said be settled out of court? What exactly does that entail?

[abc3643]

Was Trump conVICTED?
No, they settled out of court without admitting to guilt of racism despite the overwhelming evidence.

You are young and would not be aware of this.
I am an old NYer like Trump.
We have been well-aware of all of his shit for over 45 years.

[crmoore]

I also asked you to direct me to where the evidence you provided shows me a direct influence from trump regarding the alleged discrimination.

If you can't do that and he wasn't convicted, I can't say I'm inclined to believe you. We have the justice system specifically because "just assuming the victim is telling the truth" is a terrible idea.

[Sabretooth]

i can find plenty of examples.

[crmoore]

Wonderful, you may begin.

[abc3643]

@crmoore
You wrote:
"I also asked you to direct me to where the evidence you provided shows me a direct influence from trump regarding the alleged discrimination.

If you can't do that and he wasn't convicted, I can't say I'm inclined to believe you. We have the justice system specifically because "just assuming the victim is telling the truth" is a terrible idea."

1. The evidence is described in the indictment.
2. You need to understand how the criminal justice system works. I would suggest binge-watching all 20 seasons of "Law & Order" and all 10 seasons of "Law & Order: Criminal Intent".
3. As part of that, there is this concept of "liability"; even if you are not directly responsible for a criminal act, if you knowingly allow the criminal act to occur or fail to do your due diligence and be aware of the people who work for you and/or who you are responsible for, then you are either criminally negligent or complicit. It's the reason why if you drive the car to a bank robbery and someone else goes in, robs the bank, and kills someone, you are also charged with murder. The driver should have realized that there was the potential for murder, yet did nothing to prevent it from happening. That means that the driver is complicit in the murder and, from the perspective of the law, equally guilty.
This is how the law works...

[Sabretooth]

very well. he's called nazies very fine people, racially attacked Obama, Harris and Warren, attacked Mexicans, said that his supporters who attack immigrants are passionate, stated that it didn't concern him that racists find common ground with his tweets about the squad or that people found them racist because people agree with him, his history of housing discrimination-the list goes on and on and on-even trump's sister and niece have called him raciest-to those of us who've paid any attention-there's no question that he's racist.

[abc3643]

I wanted to add some more articles about this:

‘No Vacancies’ for Blacks: How Donald Trump Got His Start, and Was First Accused of Bias
www.nytimes.com/.../donald-trump-housing-race.html

This is how it was originally reported in the NY Times in 1973; it was front page news.

www.documentcloud.org/.../...ack-bias-in-city.html

[Sabretooth]

not to mention the new overt level of racism i've personally seen in his supporters.

[crmoore]

To respond to your "1." Yes, and I asked you whether you are familiar with the indictment, and if you are, can you direct me to irrefutable evidence that shows that Trump had direct, actice influence of supportive nature on the discrimination. If you're not familiar with the indictment, then I find it surprising that you blindly trust an indictment that didn't result in a conviction. With all due respect, that seems very foolish to me.

To respond to "3." I'm sure liability is relevant, but if a Facebook employee employs racism, that could make Mark Zuckerberg liable, but it does not make Mark Zuckerberg racist. To preface the following, I agree with the wrong-ness (for lack of a better word) of the driver providing support for bank-robbers, but you and I know that if a bank-robber kills someone (when it wasn't planned), that doesn't make the get-away-car-guy a murderer, at the very most it makes him complicit in murder, and at the very least it makes him reckless for indulging in an activity that inclines murder to occur, but he, himself, is not a murderer. Charging him with murder in my opinion is unjust, they should charge him with accurate charges, we want our justice system to remain legitimate. Either way, your argument seems to be "we can technically legally label Trump as racist (if we were able to convict him, which we weren't), even though he did not commit any acts of racism, himself." I'm sure you can see how illegitimate that is.

[crmoore]

As for sabertooth, trump did not say nazis were very fine people.

Here's the quote: "you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."

Firstly, if "very fine people" regarded the white supremacists, then that means you're telling me that Trump claimed there are "very fine people on both sides," meaning there are white supremacists on the left who wanted to take down the statue and white supremacists on the right who wanted the statue to remain. So right off the bat, this just doesn't make any sense, assuming that you agree that there weren't white supremacists on both sides.

To even further debunk this, his use of "also" separates the previous portion of the statement (that being the "very bad people") from the following statement of "very fine people." So he can't be regarding the "very bad people" as "very find people" since he has segmented that portion of the statement with "also."

If Trump did regard the "very bad people" as "very fine people" then the statement wouldn't have included "also" and it would have looked like this: you had some very bad people in the group, there were very fine people on both sides.

In addition, to even further push the notion that he was referring to a portion of one side of the debate, he said "you had SOME very bad people in that group," he didn't say something like "that group is comprised of very bad people" or "that group is a very bad group."

(Response continued in the following comment to avoid the character limit)

[crmoore]

Trump was referring (partially, since he said there were fine people on both sides) to the decent people who didn't want the statue removed.

^This already disproves your stance, but to make matters worse, Trump even clarified his remark when he said "But not all of those people were Neo-Nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. Those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, Robert E. Lee."

As well as "And you had people, and I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and the white nationalists, because THEY SHOULD BE CONDEMNED TOTALLY. But you had many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists."

Here's the full video: https://youtu.be/JmaZR8E12bs

[crmoore]

As for the other incidents you mentioned, can you direct me to where and when he said it? And can you quote his attacks?

And I don't believe he was referring to mexicans as a whole when he said his comment about rape, assuming that's what you're referring to. I'm of fhe understanding that he was referring to the large amount of illegal immigrants committing acts of rape, assault, murder, etc, in border states.

I can't really comment on all the other incidents you mentioned unless you can site them so I can look into them.

[Sabretooth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmaZR8E12bs

[crmoore]

Yes, I quite literally linked the video, too. Now would you actually like to read what I said (if you did, you wouldn't have posted that video). In my explanation, I go through Trump's quotes and explain why he didn't refer to whote supremacists or nazis as very fine people. If you actually watched the video without a preconceived notion, you'd come to that conclusion as well. So, please actually read my response and then you can attempt to refute the points provided if you'd like.

[Sabretooth]

it was a word salad-the fact is that he called them fine people... doesn't matter how you try and dress it up. i could find the vids of him saying all that-but i see how that would be futile. i've aggravated myself to this tired old song and dance far too many times.

[crmoore]

Alright, then answer me this one, simple question. If I said "tomatoes are bitter, but you also have many sweet fruits to choose from." Did I call tomatoes sweet?

[crmoore]

And for the record, I guarantee that if you read what I said, you wouldn't be able to refute it. Trump irrefutably did not call white supremacists or neo-nazis very fine people.

[Sabretooth]

that make no sense-just a word salad.

[Sabretooth]

yet, he did.

[crmoore]

What makes no sense? And why does it not make sense? It seems as though you're just trying to avoid having to come up with a rebuttal.

[Sabretooth]

"tomatoes are bitter, but you also have many sweet fruits to choose from." Did I call tomatoes sweet?'' i don't speak trumpism.

[Sabretooth]

it sound like the case you're trying to make here is that trump's just crazy... we all know that not a secret. that's that doesn't mean he's not a racist.

[crmoore]

I asked you to explain why it doesn't make sense. That is a coherent sentence. What part of what you quoted doesn't make sense to you?

[Sabretooth]

all of it-it's nonsensical.

[crmoore]

How?

[Sabretooth]

"tomatoes are bitter, but you also have many sweet fruits to choose from." Did I call tomatoes sweet?' no, but again, he said there were fine people on both sides-it's on tape-his face, his moth, his voice.

[crmoore]

Yes, more specifically, he said "you had some very bad people in that group, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides."

"Also" indicates the nature of being separate. And if that isn't enough, a moment later he clarifies "but not all of thode people were neo-nazis, believe me. Not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch."

As well as "I'm not talking about the neo-nazis and the white nationalists, because they should be condemned totally. But you had peoppe in that group other than neo-nazis and white nationalists."

[Sabretooth]

Again, all that proves is that he's incoherent-we all know that. For someone who isn't a racist-they sure gravitate towards him and are emboldened by him.

[crmoore]

Yes, he speaks very uniquely, that's entirely apparent. But what he said in that particular instance is easily discernable. Like it's not even obscure. He said there are bad people in a group, but also good people. What is confusing about that?

[Sabretooth]

again, he referenced naizes-he does the very same thing here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Pk42AeUhY again, at this point-there is no question

[crmoore]

He quit literally said, and I'm paraphrasing, "I'm not talking about the nazis."

[OutdoorsForLife]

Why do you ask?

[Asker]

I don’t know. I just wondered. Because Trump is a big racist.

[OutdoorsForLife]

He is? What did he say that is racist?

[Asker]

He can’t say anything to the public anyway. From the his explains about police killing blacks and of course from the his orders.

[OutdoorsForLife]

So he is a racist but has made any racist statements ever? Interesting.

[Asker]

Yep, racist and pedophile.

[OutdoorsForLife]

Is there evidence of his pedophilia?

[jon28805]

Hell no.

[Anonymous]

Yes.

[Anonymous]

Trump is an idiot