When did the 9/11 effect finally fade?

[Oliverlogan263]

9/11 was an immensely impactful event in the history of the United States and the world. When did it's direct impact on the psychology of the public fade, and it was essentially seen as simply another event in history?

[Lliam]

Yeah. People sure were sold a bill of goods. I was a highly orchestrated coup d'etat on the Constitution and Bill of Rights, but got blamed on Islamic terrorists.

One airplane each hit two buildings and three towers collapsed in their own footprints. Who rigged the buildings for demolition? And who fired the cruise missile that hit the Pentagon? What about the dancing Israelis?

What happened to the investigation into the missing two trillion $ that had been disclosed the day before the "attack".

The group, the Project for the New American Century, or PNAC, was founded in 1997. Among its supporters were three Republican former officials who were sitting out the Democratic presidency of Bill Clinton: Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz.

And in a report just before the 2000 election that would bring Bush to power, the group predicted that the shift would come about slowly, unless there were "some catastrophic and catalyzing event, like a new Pearl Harbor."

That event came on Sept. 11, 2001. By that time, Cheney was vice president, Rumsfeld was secretary of defense, and Wolfowitz his deputy at the Pentagon.

The next morning — before it was even clear who was behind the attacks — Rumsfeld insisted at a Cabinet meeting that Saddam's Iraq should be "a principal target of the first round of terrorism," according to Bob Woodward's book Bush At War.

It gave the government an excuse to declare a "war on terror", to invade Afghanistan, bomb Baghdad, destroy the Iraqi military and overthrow the government, destroy Libya, and attempt to destroy Syria. Also to put America under martial law under the War Powers Act, create TSA, and start monitoring every American citizen's communications.

Now Islamophobia is rife, much to the benefit of Israel. People accept PNAC without even realizing that it was planned years before 911.

People accept living in a police state now, too. Something that would have been unheard of before 911. And it's all because they were bombarded by a fictitious narrative; propaganda.

So yeah, the 911 effect is still in effect to an even great degree all the time.

[VoyeurGuy]

It has not faded. At all. It became part of the zeitgeist. It adopted different names in different situations. It became the modus operandi for different law enforcement agencies and armed forces groups. It became the reason. Mostly it became the reason. The reason to make better and bigger weapons. To weaponize algorithms more precisely. And yet use that same algorythm to racially profile people. To automate drones and convince decision makers that giving AI the ability to choose between who should live and who not. To spy on everybody, including civilians, more.
And this is international. Not just in the USA.

[ProbablyClueless]

Um... I'd say probably 5 or 6 years from the event for the fervor to completely die. At least that's how it was where I live (the more developed areas of rural America). From a practical standpoint, it faded once it became obvious that the 9/11 attacks actually had very little to do with why we were in the Gulf region. There was a whole coalition formed at the UN to do the attack, and it was hella expensive, and the logic behind why we were about to embark on this intense shitshow wasn't ever particularly cogent or clear.

I remember being in first or second grade watching Bush speak about why we were attacking and thinking that there had to be something I didn't understand (and of course, there's a lot I didn't understand at that age) because the logic didn't track in my brain. That was a very basic sniff test logic though.

[DrPepper12]

9/12. The usa American public is so inurred with self gratification or a corporate pawn that they give these events little to no consideration beyond blind patriotism and mindless obedience.

[Kaneki05]

I feel like other terrorist attacks and well more importantly shooters has made the focus shift to it will be another shooter not bomber. Though you know they do happen. I think it's just less of shock now it's more oh another one.

[exitseven]

It took ten years and in some respects we are still feeling the effects. I refuse to fly anyplace because the long lines and cavity searched make t too inconvenient to me. I would rather drive my truck.

[Billlewis]

It hasn't faded at all, in my opinion. Keep in mind, without Osama, there would have been no Obama, no Biden, no nightmarish scenario in which the nation goes down the drain, etc.

[Bricealan]

Just flew back from Ohio through Atlanta... I think it will NEVER FADE. !

[Friendlybro79]

Never for some in the NY area but once kids were too young to remember or weren't born I suppose that's when

[handsomelad70]

It hasn't as the anti-immigrant hysteria attests.

[Kaneki05]

But ain't the anti-immigrant thing focused on Mexicans which well they had nothing to do with 9/11? America barley even has any Islamic within it's population for anyone to be bothered about them.

[handsomelad70]

@Kaneki05 It's ALL about othering ALL POC, regardless of national origin.

[Kaneki05]

That would be more just racism though which for sure America has a lot of.
But I don't think when Americans speak of getting rid of immigrants who are taking their jobs that they are on about Islamic or Black people etc. They are talking about Mexicans.
At least that's from what I've seen.

[handsomelad70]

@Kaneki05 They don't know what they are talking about because MANY jobs are created by immigrants.

[Kaneki05]

Well I ain't arguing whether they are right or wrong.
Just pointing out I don't see the anti-immigrant thing had much to do with 9/11 and if that never happened such thoughts would still exist because it's way more about Mexicans.

[Juxtapose]

Immigration is a privilege and not a right. The USA is fully within its rights to close its borders to anyone it wants for any reason. Just thought I would remind you guys.

[Theodoricus]

The CIA should answer this question as project manager of the 9/11.

[Juxtapose]

You weren't there when things were different. Things were very different before 9/11 and things have never gone back to the way they were.

[nawtee_me]

When Obama opened them and Biden reopened them after the pandemic…. They didn’t learn anything from it….

[noohair]

I lost a high school friend. It never ends for me.

[Oliverlogan263]

I’m sorry

[Vegasrunner]

For those thar lived through it it will never fade. It's our generations Pearl Harbor.

[Anonymous]

Think it was when OBL was dealt with but the 20 years anniversary sparked a little up

[FunkyMonkee]

Time heals all wounds.

[Xoirwinkan]

When they changed the name to 7/11

[Pterodon]

When we killed Bin Laden

[Dongie]

Almost 3 years ago.