What are your thoughts of Israel’s government passing legislation to now force “ultra orthodox” military aged men to serve in the military?

[Danny_dan92]

All I got to say is, good. They should also take Ben Shapiro also.


Nothing pisses me off more when grown ass men call for violence, essentially being the cheer leaders to the men that willingly put on a fucken uniform. Especially when innocent little kids are being killed due to this war. (Don’t debate me. IDF’s tactics suck ass and have no common sense) - I would know 👍🏼


They wanna fight…. Until they’re handed a rifle.





Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c6p24expzd5o.amp

[RebelinSteel]

If a country has conscription, it should be everyone, the only exceptions are those in certain jobs, roles that would have an impact if they were called up. In this case that specific group are often the cause of the majority of friction and should not be exempt. Apart from that, the entire thing should have ended months ago, I doubt there are very few countries that now back Israel, more countries are heading towards formally recognising a Palestinian state.

[Danny_dan92]

I supported Israel initially because I too am no fan of terrorists…

But when I saw how they were conducting their military operations. That’s where I raised an eyebrow and began to say “timeout”

Just this simple concept alone…

They got a hostage situation… and they employed bombs… makes no sense.

[RebelinSteel]

Yep exactly that and they expect other countries to support them no matter what, that has now changed.

[Danny_dan92]

Yep! Their ROE’s were absolutely fucked and not ethical at all.

Wtf do little kids have anything to do with the terrorist attack Hamas did… they probably weren’t even sperm cells when Hamas was elected to govern the people in Gaza.

The whole thing was stupid.

Lastly and I always say this to people that lack common sense.

The IDF warned the people of Gaza they were about to conduct airstrikes in the hopes civilians would be cleared out of the area of effect and the only casualties would be Hamas insurgents… common sense. If you’re sending warnings to an entire population, and your enemy is not only known to hide behind the civilians but also live in the same area… whose to say they won’t simply move with the relocating civilians?

[RingOfFire]

I'm trying to decipher your comment but no luck.

All I can say is that I hope Israel wipes Hamas off the map and the rest of the Iranian back Muslim terrorist world too. I hope they finish them off once and for all.

And if the people of Gaza don't like it, then next time don't choose terrorists to run your country.

STOP THE PALESTINIAN OCCUPATION OF ISRAEL!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/KP-CRXROorw

[Danny_dan92]

For the record. I’m not pro Hamas. I once supported Israel’s response in taking out Hamas.

Unfortunately in the process, they’re wiping out countless civilians… including but not limited to little kids.

Wtf do they have anything to do with Hamas? They probably didn’t even vote for Hamas in the first place.

And your last comment, that’s literally gaslighting. Look at the map… you say Palestinian’s are occupying Israel? That’s why Gaza was housing Palestinian people and it’s not even half the size of Israel. Think

[RingOfFire]

55 MILLION civilians were killed in World War II. That's what happens in a war.

This war was entirely preventable. The Palestinians in Gaza brought it on themselves by overwhelmingly supporting the designated terrorist organization Hamas to lead their country.

[RingOfFire]

Hamas's written charter is the destruction of Israel and the genocide of all Jewish people. Knowing this, the people of Gaza STILL elected them in a landslide to run their country.

What did they expect? That Israel was just going to sit back and let them destroy their country and murder all of their people?

[Danny_dan92]

Did every American vote for Biden?

[RingOfFire]

No, but if 80% of Germans vote for Hitler, the rest of them still have to live with the consequences of the rest of the world defending itself. What is the alternative? Israel is a tiny sliver of land surrounded by a sea of barbarians on every side. What are they supposed to do, just allow their own civilians to be slaughtered?

[RingOfFire]

Enough is enough!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN1MkAGuVyY

[RingOfFire]

You asked how the Palestinians are occupying Israel.

The answer is that there were Jews in Palestine for thousands of years before Islam even existed. The Jews have more claim on that land than any other country in the world has on its land.

I asked why you aren't demanding that the Palestinians for Hamas to surrender and return the hostages. They are the ones who started the war. Yet the Palestinians are still standing by Hamas. Why are you demanding that Israel stop defending itself and not demanding that the Palestinians surrender Hamas and return the hostages they took?

[RingOfFire]

All they have to do is surrender Hamas and turn over the hostages and the war is over in 5 minutes. Yet you and others don't seem to be nearly as aggressive about calling for that as you are about calling for the destruction of Israel.

[Danny_dan92]

Better question. What does the US have anything to do with this bs?

That’s their problem since they cannot find peace… as they haven’t for decades. Like children fighting for a toy

[RingOfFire]

Why? Because Israel is an essential ally in one of the most strategic locations in the world and provides America with some of the best intelligence that it gets from anywhere. In addition Israel is an essential partner against the common enemy of Islamic terrorism that is threatening America's interests and lives all over the world including on America's own soil.

America has no better strategic partner anywhere else in the world.

Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East, a beacon of freedom in a sea of barbarianism. If for that reason alone, I would support Israel.

[Danny_dan92]

We have actual allies that are in the area.

[RingOfFire]

There is no ally in the Middle East, or really anywhere else in the world that is as valuable as Israel. And this President is destroying that relationship.

[Danny_dan92]

Exactly. We have no ally in the middle east. Because all these middle eastern countries know nothing but violence.

“No peace in the middle east” is a phrase that exists for a reason. Because they’re all barbarians.

I don't know what you’re talking about, because sleepy joe has been giving them billions of dollars in aid. Meanwhile bibi is running his mouth saying they’ll conduct their military operations with or without USA… without that tax payer money that could be used to fix our own problems. It’s funding his military operations…

[RingOfFire]

So you equate Israel's need to defend itself with its neighbor's genocidal violence?

[Danny_dan92]

Hamas called for the genocide or Israel, Israel responds by committing a genocide on everyone in Gaza… including civilians that aren’t even in Hamas…

They’re both wrong. Idgaf what anyone has to say, there is no moral high ground. But you can continue to pretend Israel is morally superior while they have fire superiority at an extreme level. And are acting like they’re the true victims…

Do I want Hamas dead? Yep. But why do kids have to die? I know why, cause the Jews are just as much as cowards as the people that attacked them…

And somehow, precious American tax payer dollars are being used to fund this bullshit.

[GeminiDiamond]

Men? I wouldn't be surprised if Gal Gaddot 《Wonder Woman》rejoined and fought for her country again.

[Jennz6]

Their women are in the Military too

[GeminiDiamond]

It's an Israeli law that ALL shall serve at 18 for a minimum of two years. Men and women. There are stipulations on why you would be exempt, but being a woman ain't one of them!

[BetaBucks]

War should be voted on and everyone voting in favor gets drafted and deployed. No passive jobs. All combat roles. You call for violence, you go do it.

[Danny_dan92]

Smart.

[strateguy632]

1, a correction the "government did NOT pass legislation to now force “ultra orthodox” in draft.

2, they are making a law NOT to draft them because the law NOT to draft them expired.

3, between the law's end to new law, the court ruled draft must be equal, on everyone... but

government is ignored court while it makes the new law, not drafting equally.

[Phoenix98]

It's the same old schtick regardless same kinds of people telling others to fight while they sit in safety.

I mean in my eyes it's only fair if you want to tell others to go fight and die you had better be prepared to do the same.

[DryGermanGuy]

„I have only one rule. Everybody fights, no one quits. If you don't do your job, I'll kill you myself!“
- Jean Rasczak, Starship Troopers

[Lliam]

The Israeli government wants all their citizens to be murderers.

[Juxtapose]

You're mad at people calling for their homeland to be defended? The fuck is wrong with people man?

[Danny_dan92]

I’m not mad at the government calling for it’s people to, like you said “defend their homeland”

I’m mad at the fact that there exist men, that will encourage violence and killing. All from the comfort of their home. No. If you want war, get tf up and go fight.

Aka DBAB

[Danny_dan92]

And to see those same men upset at the fact that now the same government they are encouraging to engage in this conflict, is now telling them to join the military.

This is what they want. So let them have it

[Juxtapose]

The citizens of Israel don't want war they just want to be left the fuck alone. You can be against going to war yourself (there are many perfectly valid reasons to hold that position) while still desiring safety.

[Danny_dan92]

And how do you think the citizens that are just trying to get by in life. Aren’t even in hamas feel when they’re being bombed into oblivion?

You think they want it? No. This is the exact same thing. People being forced to accept an unfavorable outcome

[Juxtapose]

Look man, Israel has already given away a lot of land for the sake of this two-state solution crap and they gave Arabs the Gaza Strip. What do they do with this newfound freedom? They elect literal terrorists that rape Jewish people, torture and kill them and also throw gay people off of rooftops.

For all the civilians that did not elect those savages? I feel sincere pity for them. For the rest of them that in any way helped those terrorists? Fuck those monsters.

[Danny_dan92]

Do you know what happened to the leader of the French Revolution?

[Juxtapose]

He got his head cut off.

[Danny_dan92]

Yes, but what did he end up doing that caused the people to cut his head off?

[Juxtapose]

A conservative was afraid he would start killing way too many people so he assassinated him.

[Dargil]

I agree with it. Ben Shapiro is not Israeli.

[jahaims]

They already had mandatory military service for both genders

[OddBeMe]

Sign of immense weakness. Shows they aren’t winning.

[HawkPerception]

Agreed with your take entirely