Do you think Agenda 47 is different from Project 2025?

[goaded]

Lipstick on a pig

Ex-POTUS Trump lied about his involvement in Project 2025. Fully 38 ex-members of his admin helped draft it. Why does Trump LIE profusely & poorly?

Have you heard of Project 2025?

No anonymous opinions, say it, own it.

Not really

Yes, completely

Yes, in parts (which parts?)

Yes, it's got a different name

Don't know, see results

[MisterWack]

Agenda 47 to my knowledge is 100% policies Trump said he would indeed implement while in office that are extreme, not popular, and incredibly irresponsible while on the other-hand Project 25 is something a bunch of Right Wing nutjobs came up with for Trump to completely turn the government into a Conservative Capitalist hellscape…

The fact of the matter is, both suck because Donald J Trump promises to destroy the economy & well being of the Great American Experiment by pushing tariffs on imports (which historically drives prices up and you pay for less in quantity) also mass deportation of immigrants regardless of status which kills low skilled cheap labor workforce that the Capitalists need to take advantage of which without it comes out of natural born American pockets.

[DryGermanGuy]

[dustybiker2]

It's how you attempt to win elections. Money, threats and lies.

[dustybiker2]

And they both appear to have been sculpted from the likes of North Korea.

[dustybiker2]

Free country for me, not you.

[goaded]

There's a reason Trump gets on with Kim, Xi, and "I dream of taking Ukraine" Putin.

[dustybiker2]

It is pretty clear. Yes.

[quarrel]

You said "you". That's a members post.

[dustybiker2]

@quarrel @GirlsAskGuys "trolling"

[Juxtapose]

Trump did not lie about this and you cannot prove it. All of his friends and all of his acquaintances in the world could have a great big boner for agenda 2025 and he could have absolutely no interest in it. You cannot prove he lied. Straight up you can't prove it.

And actually with Trump's plan? Besides a few things like the contraceptive deal I am largely in agreement with him. Things like removing "gender affirming care" is sorely needed.

[goaded]

Can you prove he didn't lie about it? Granted, he's not one to pay attention to anything but himself, but it beggars belief to think that he won't go along with whatever he's been told. It's not like he researched his SCOTUS picks himself, is it?

[Juxtapose]

The burden of proof is on on the accuser.

[goaded]

Well, 38 of Trump's people are working on it, he's repeatedly praised the Heritage Foundation and its president, by name, but now claims not to know nothing.

His senior advisor, Stephen Miller, has also claimed not to know anything about Project 2025, and he's in their recruitment video!

Of course they're lying, their mouths are moving.

[Juxtapose]

Again, you can't prove that Trump lied about it. You are speculating.

[goaded]

Trump lies about everything, why not this? "I wish them well!". (Isn't that what he said about Epstein's girlfriend and groomer of youg girls?)

[Juxtapose]

Nice try but Trump is not on the list and he was just being polite.

[goaded]

Are you serious? His name crops up many times in the documents that were recently released, he was calling Epstein all the time.

[Juxtapose]

He is not on the Epstein list and he has never been on that island. It brings me a lot of joy to tell you that because it dispels disingenuous rumors about Trump.

[Juxtapose]

Meanwhile Joe Biden literally fucking nibbles on little girls in such a way that if I did that I would get sent straight to Federal prison.

[Juxtapose]

And he showered with his underaged daughter.

[DryGermanGuy]

Trump has been documented to be in Epstein’s circle many times, including on the infamous flight list. Here are more documents:

https://youtu.be/oGjH8BlkDtQ?si=1a_VPZleT2UlGEPf

[Juxtapose]

@DryGermanGuy even if that is true..

"However, the document revealed no wrongdoing."

www.newsweek.com/fact-check-do-jeffrey-epstein-documents-exonerate-donald-trump-1857744

[goaded]

That's from January. The latest batch of files are from a couple of days ago, and Trump's name is all over them. Including that he flew 7 times on Epstein’s private jet, and that Epstein flew on Trump’s jet with a young girl of indeterminate age.

https://youtu.be/xa3K85fStBw

[Juxtapose]

I don't believe that because the YouTube channel is incredibly biased and the guy is a far left lunatic.

[goaded]

Then go and look at the documents.

[Juxtapose]

"The logs, however, do not indicate that Trump or Clinton ever visited Epstein’s island in the Caribbean, the center of his international sex-trafficking ring."

nypost.com/.../

[Juxtapose]

And somebody flying in a plane with a little girl doesn't mean anything. How was Trump supposed to know he was a pedophile? You think he fucking advertises that to people?

[Juxtapose]

My aunt has taken my cousin on plane trips before on her private jet. Yes, my aunt is filthy rich and my cousin is super lucky to be close to her haha.

[goaded]

"It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side." He knew.

Again, your NYPost story is from January.

[Juxtapose]

That's not proof that he means below 18 but nice try.

[Juxtapose]

These are very serious allegations you are making and you need proof.

[goaded]

How many baseless accusations have Republicans in the House made against Biden with no evidence? You believe every one.

I refuse to believe that someone who would boast about sexually assaulting women wouldn't do worse.

[LadyKitty]

Project 2025 is literally a playbook of how to become a dictator. For a group that yells about having rights they sure want to remove rights for others!

[msc545]

Just another bunch of authoritarians trying to make a name for themselves engage in greed and generally being jerks.

[gorydetails]

I'm already going to vote Trump, you don't have to keep selling me on it!

[OddBeMe]

I have to say I don’t know. But it appears to be.

And on Trump I could chalk it up to his stupidity…but he does lie every other sentence.

[handsomelad70]

No. They're both reactionary BS.

[thomastown]

People are reading into this too much.

[goaded]

In what way? We've seen fascist leaders replace competent people with loyalists before. That's item 1 on their agenda.

[goaded]

50,000 of them on day one. (Not the usual 4,000.)

[NYCQuestions1976]

Drooling liberal paranoia.

[goaded]

There's 900 pages of people describing how they're out to repeal the last 100 years of progress in America, but it's paranoia to ask voters to have a look at it. What's crazy is that they thought people would approve of having their rights and protections stripped away.

[NYCQuestions1976]

DEI (Didn't Earn It) isn't "progress". It's racism.

[goaded]

You think that's the only thing they're against? This year's version of the N-word?

[NYCQuestions1976]

I've seen the liberal paranoia distraction "lists". We have a clear separation of church and state in this country, and abortions are a state by state issue.

[goaded]

Not any more you don't, you've got states insisting that schools put up one version of the ten commandments. I think they should put them up in the original language (Hebrew?).

You don't seem to understand how dictatorships work. They decide who they're coming for next, and you get no say at all in the matter.

[NYCQuestions1976]

Those proposed laws will be struck down by the Supreme Court. In the meantime? Oh no! Not the 10 commandments! We shouldn't teach kids not to steal and kill!

The Democrats are giving a master class in being dictators. It starts with suppression of speech, and that's on the left.

[goaded]

You can teach people to be decent people, especially not to steal or kill without any of this crap:

I am the Lord thy God
Thou shalt have no other gods before me
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy

Why didn't you mention adultery? Is it because Trump's a serial adulterer?

[NYCQuestions1976]

I'm sure if "God" was replaced with "Stalin" and "Sabbath" was replaced with "government", you'd be totally fine with it, because your worship of albatross government overlords is no different than people who are obnoxiously religious.

[goaded]

As usual, you're wrong. (But won't admit it.)

[NYCQuestions1976]

People who worship albatross government overlords (socialists) are just as dangerous as people who worship deities.

[goaded]

Except you're not talking about reality, are you? You're wrong, as usual, but won't admit it.

[NYCQuestions1976]

It is absolutely reality. Socialism and socialists are a danger and a detriment to individual personal freedoms and to society as a whole.

[goaded]

I said you wouldn't admit it. How about some actual evidence to supprt your case?

[NYCQuestions1976]

Argentina. Milei ripped off the bandage to get his people off the government's teats and onto their own feet. The entire country will be better off in the long run because of him.

[goaded]

I was actually responding to your claim that I'd be totally fine with it if "God" was replaced with "Stalin" and "Sabbath" was replaced with "government".

Come back to me in ten years about Argentina which has a better system for the election of the president than the US.

[NYCQuestions1976]

The evidence of that is your entire profile.

The process of electing a President here in the United States works perfectly. It keeps the cities run (ruined) by limousine liberals from running and controlling the entire country. You win over 50% of the votes cast in that state (other than Maine and Nebraska), you win that state.