WWas donald trump getting shot staged?

[Anonymous]

What do you think

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We thought it was a BB gun or something

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I read a bullet went through the teleprompter and it was glass that struck trump.

[Lynx122]

I don't know but there was only one other building in the area that a sniper could use and the secret service didn't secure it. And it was only 450 ft away from the stage. The snipers who were supposed to protect himwere looking in the right direction but didn't react in time. Civilians saw the guy climbing on the roof with a rifle and pointed him out and nobody did anything. Either they're just really incompetent and should be fired or something fishy is going on. I can't really say which one yet we need to wait for more information to come out. It's just funny to me because in a movie like Shooter they shoot from 3000 + feet because the security is so tight but here he was 450 ft away and nobody was paying attention to him. It's not like it was a very difficult area to lock down. This was sloppy and makes the secret service look bad. That's all we can say so far I think.

[Lliam]

So Trump said "Good idea. Go ahead and shoot me. It'll be great for my ratings. But be sure to only nick my ear, okay?"

Does anyone know how impossible a shot like that would be at a moving target from 150 yards?

There is no way that was staged. It may have been a set up, though, and not merely the idea of a lone douche bag who wanted to be famous.

This is going to get spun a 100 different directions by people on the left and the right, but it was a failed assassination attempt.

[Massageman]

No, it wasn't "staged". If it was "staged", that is where the assassin would be aiming- the stage/podium. 140-150 yards isn't a terribly hard shot with the new sighting technology on modern weapons. It was Trump's movement and animation and God's providence that saved him. The collateral damage of innocents is horrible and most regrettable. Points up the need to clear AT MINIMUM a half mile perimeter around events. The sound of a gun in these open air events does sound more like a pop and not like an episode of Waker, Texas Ranger or Bluebloods.

[FreyaRed]

Whipping of supersonic bullets as clearly to hear before sound of the muzzle appears on the video. BB guns don't make such sound because air gun pellets/slugs are subsonic (slower than sound.) I don't think Trump would risk his life and allowed someone to shot at him with supersonic ammunition that is deadly by head shot. Even precision supersonic ammunition have a spread of several centimeters at 100m. 3cm to the right and he was dead.
I don't think it was staged. Someone wanted him dead, the question is who.

[Wise4myage]

Obama? Hillary, lol.

[Anonymous]

Since Donald Trump was best friends with Jeffrey Epstein, is a rapist & pedophile, very corrupt, lacks morals, and a wannabe dictator who incited a rebellion, it's possible he could resort to things like that to try to win the election. So I could say it's possible, however it could very well just be a normal assassination attempt

[OlderAndWiser]

Staged by who? Do you think the shooter knew he would be killed as a result of the "staged" event?

[Wise4myage]

Great point.

[monorprise]

Trump likely also would have been killed by the attempt to put a bullet that close at such a range even with a machine. Its hard to count how many unpredictable factors being slightly different and that bullet goes thou his head.

The staging therefore would have to not use a bullet, but 3rd parties caught the bullet on camera mid flight.

It would have been insane act to stage. and this is a man already on his way to winning with every interest in the world to keep the conversation on Joe Biden's mental health.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Whether it was Donald Trump or Joe Biden, no place in America for that stuff, it did sound like a gun?

[Kelley1]

At first, I was 30% certain that just like Sirhan Sirhan, Thomas Matthew Crooks was a CIA mind controlled patsy and select individuals within the secret service such as the two snipers on the other roof was complicit by allowed the assassination attempt. For various reasons, I have doubts about the CIA’s involvement. However, I am 100% certain that individuals within the secret service allowed the assassination attempt.

With the shooter identified an hour earlier with a back pack and range finder and deemed a suspicious person, and with people pointing out to the police and secret service a person with a rifle climbing onto the roof all in plain view of secret service snipers, would it have been possible for the shooter to shoot Trump unless the intent by secret service snipers was to allow the assassination of Trump?

The bullet came within a inch of killing Trump and other bullets killed and injured others. Therefore, it is not possible that could have been staged.

[Lionman95]

No because if it was staged he would have finished what he wanted. If the attempt was staged Trump would be dead because someone that had paid a young dude to shoot him would have done all he could to get Trump killed and that would have involved paying the snipers to give the shooter more time to kill Trump.
I don´t think it was changed but poorly planed or managed.

[dustybiker2]

If he hadn't fist punched the air, but acted truly shocked. I might believe it wasn't staged. This man will do anything for votes.

[KrakenAttackin]

@dustybiker2. Do you still believe this event was staged?

[dustybiker2]

@KrakenAttackin I don't think you would like my thoughts today any better than yesterday. Even if I was laying it on thick to counteract the hysteria at the time.

Logically I think this man is capable of a lot more than most of his followers give him credit for.

In that line of thought I have an open mind to how this came to be. It's only day two and not enough info has been released yet. Judging in his behavior though.. it is still possible. Anything is possible. I'm unsurprised to not be alone in thinking this either.

What are your thoughts on the fist/air punch? Do most cops who get shot at react this way?

[KrakenAttackin]

@dustybiker2. I am amazed at your level of hatred.

[dustybiker2]

@KrakenAttackin People often confuse hatred with embarrassment, which is what he is to this country. Stuck on repeat.

[dustybiker2]

And I take that as a "no"

[Anonymous]

Obviously.

Funny how he played golf with ear unbandage and fine but came photo-shoot time he walks in with something stuck to his ear which looked like a post-it note. Only Trump supporters would fall for this charade.

[you_asked]

You must watch CNN MSNBC ABC NBC news

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't even trust a machine to make that close of a shot.

Not sure why anyone would let a 20 year old kid with a history of being a bad shot take a shot at you close enough to pierce your ear at such a distance.

We know the shot took place because everyone saw it and we even captured the bullet on camera, just as we also have lots of witnesses and captured on camera the shooter.

[Snakeyes7]

1. That bullet was WAY too close to the brain for it to be staged.

2. The shooter got killed or at least shot. I doubt the shooter would have agreed to that.

3. I don't think Trump uses teleprompters so it couldn't have been glass.

[SweetJoyGirl]

I don't know, but it isn’t funny. People shouldn’t be shooting at others out of pure anger.

[monorprise]

Are you suggesting it is plausible Trump would risk his life to win an election he was already winning thanks to the poor debate performance?

So far the only evidence I hear is people thinking Trump's angers reaction was too perfect. But we have had a number of failed presidential assassinations where president did precisely that.

Indeed Andrew Jackson became soo enraged by a failed assassin he chased after the man with his cane to beat him up. Theodore Roosevelt carry on an hour long speech after being shot.

[OhLongJohnsoning]

It just seems odd. Everything that you saw. Really analyze the video. Plus there's the fact that supposedly people were pointing out that there was someone on the roof, and that ss didn't see them, or that they did, and ignored it. Why would they ignore it, if they saw it?

[normalice]

It wouldn't surprise me if it was. But I don't think so. Or at least if it was I doubt Trump was involved as he would never allow any risk to himself whatsoever.

[monorprise]

Given we have 3rd party cameras establishing a bullet is in flight, and the location of the shooter, as well as several other people having been shot and thousands of witnesses. How exactly do you propose they staged this?

Not even a machine could have made such a shot and not likely killed Trump.

[normalice]

No idea but pausing for a photo op seems like it should go against protocol.

Anyway, I don't think it was staged. I'm just saying it wouldn't surprise me if we learned that it was. Not because the situation as it apparently happened isn't plausible but because republicans are so fake. Indeed, "3rd party cameras" were there covering a Trump rally and so necissarily had to be tolerant of trumpism. If there is a question that I'd be surprised the RNC went so far to fake something so elaborate, there is no question about right wing media photoshopping an image - that's pretty routine for them, actually.

Oh, and of course the witnesses wouldn't have been in on it. Real shots fired at people, but not the one that came close to trump.

But again, I'm only saying all this because you asked how it might be possible. I don't actually believe any of this happened. I'm only saying I don't place the GOP above taking such measures.

[monorprise]

@normalice
Trump doesn't seem to be a protocol guy, nor is it common for many people to act with great judgement when they are enraged, such as many people tend to get after having been shot.

Indeed Andrew Jackson the first American president to experience an assassination attempt, 67 st the time famously became enraged and went after the assassin with his walking Cain clubbed many time.

Naturally this was not a smart thing to do nearly getting Jackson killed but when one is shot people sometimes act on instinct rather than wisdom.
www.history.com/.../andrew-jackson-narrowly-escapes-assassination

[normalice]

I'm talking about the secret service. Getting lax on protocol is how Trump almost got shot. Seems an odd moment to relapse.

[Guacamole409]

It was staged, but not in the way you think.

[Avicenna]

You do know that there are lots of crazy and evil people that genuinely want to kill politicians, right?

[Guacamole409]

And Biden wants to remove ALL secret service protections from his rivals.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Guacamole409 That's true. After his awful debate Biden also said " it's time to put a Bullseye on Trump".

[Guacamole409]

@KrakenAttackin
A guy just sent me that link. It's ironic that the left said that if Trump was elected, he would never leave. lol
Now even Obama wants Biden to leave, and he won't.

[Avicenna]

Leftists lie about everything. They also now want to escape accountability for their incitement against Trump, including open calls for assassination.

[Avicenna]

Biden denied Secret Service protection for RFK Jr. and nine Democrats in Congress sponsored legislation to have Secret Service protection taken from Trump, which no one would do unless they wanted to get Trump assassinated.

[Guacamole409]

@Avicenna

It's the only way a turnip can win. The Dems want Biden gone more than the Republicans want him gone. But the dictator won't leave.

[Avicenna]

@Guacamole409: Well, Democrats love the things Biden and his puppetmasters did, they just want him gone because he'd lose a free and fair election. Republicans want Biden gone because his administration has been awful.

[Guacamole409]

Very true.

[andreasderjuengere]

From what I see:

Yes - Trump was on a stage.

And... does this all really matter? All sides will still think of the person/s involved the way they did before.

[TonyMetal___86]

The man was about die and yet some morons thinks that it was staged, if the man dies (may god forbid) they will start gossiping that he faked his own death, you people just can't keep your tongues in your mouths!

[TonyMetal___86]

Also, never forget that a person was killed and two are seriously injured, i bet that these people from the crowd had staged their wounds and death too!

It's a massacre, 3 people were about to die including Trump plus the person who died may he R. I. P, at least have some respect!

[thomastown]

[Guacamole409]

I turned to MSNBC today, to see if Morning Joe had the guts to come on to his own show. He didn't.

[Wise4myage]

@Guacamole409 Morning douche bag Joe always has a look on his like he just crapped his pants.

[Guacamole409]

@Wise4myage

He's such a scumbag. He's partially responsible for the shooting. And so is Biden.

[Wise4myage]

@Guacamole409 And Hillary.

[Guacamole409]

@Wise4myage
And maybe Obama.

[Yabbut]

Lives were lost. Was that to make it believable? Stop...

[legalboxers]

1 LIFE. not LIVES. its a LIFE. SINGULAR not PLURAL

[Yabbut]

@legalboxers apparently 2 people died. Granted one was the piece of human garbage shooter, but that's still plural.

[Yabbut]

@Guacamole409 he came in here trying to correct me, I informed him he was wrong, then he blocked me. Such a fragile little fella.

[Guacamole409]

He must have the most severe case of TDS on the planet. What a loser.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I don't think so. Playing with your life isn't a game.

[SweetJoyGirl]

Fr🤦🏾‍♀️

[KrakenAttackin]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy. What are you saying?

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

@KrakenAttackin: Staging an event to have someone to shoot you in the head with something isn't something you stage.

[KrakenAttackin]

@Hispanic-Cool-Guy. Agreed.

[Guacamole409]

Not to mention, if It was staged, what would be the point of shooting three other people?

[OtterMan68]

I'd say we should all sit back and not share any conspiracy theories. We should wait for the facts, but this is America: The conspiracy theories are coming fast and furious.

[Guacamole409]

Where were the helicopters and drones watching the roofs? Biden has those. The counter-snipers watching the roofs, couldn't see this guy crawling on the roof with a rifle, but the citizens on the ground could?

[legalboxers]

It was a ploy and was staged by his own supporters. in a SEA OF RED HATS and GUNS. How the hell you think a lib would get there. Thats like a lions den

[AviatorTom]

Not possible. No shooter is good enough to just miss killing someone by a cm.

[noohair]

An ear shot from a 20 year old with no expert training? No way!

[Anonymous]

No, not staged, two dead and likely a third. Watching it and now the hatred towards a man that survived an assassination attempt is likely making me switch my RFK vote to Trump.

[Anonymous]

It definitely felt like it immediately from his posing for a picture on the way out and it only seems more like it since.

[Anonymous]

if it was staged it wasn't done very well given that 2 people are dead

[genericname85]

eh maybe. but then again enough people hated the guy to make this not very unrealistic.

[Iron_Man]

Why do you always say WW every time you start a sentence

[Iron_Man]

no it’s not staged

[In_Trance]

Yeah

[Dargil]

One shooter is dead. PA State s got him.

[Dargil]

A second person died and another wounded.

[Anonymous]

No, most likely it was a lone actor with mental health issues.

[BarryLiverstone]

At least 2 people died. This wasn’t staged

[Danny_dan92]

If was not staged. Was it planned? Yes

[DrPepper12]

No. I wish it were so.

Next question.

[Alex-Snow]

Not another conspiracy theory.. ugggg

[SotiCoto]

I wouldn't put it past him.

[Wise4myage]

No way, not when it nearly killed him.

[handsomelad70]

So staged that a rally attendee was slain.

[KrakenAttackin]

Yes, he was clearly wounded.

[war_daddy]

probably just some ugly unloved incel

[Danny74006]

Sad this has to be asked

[Agape93]

Nah I doubt it

[Anonymous]

No… it was not

[Anonymous]

Seriously?

[MacDaddyRico]

Yes it was staged

[shortster]

Doubtful

[shortster]

I heard that speculation; but in the video after the shooting shows both prompters in tact.