So let me get this straight, men are obligated to put themselves at risk for random people?

[Anonymous]

So after the constant man bashing online and telling men to leave women alone, now they’re telling us we’re obligated to put ourselves at risk for someone we don’t even know? So they want male presence when it suits them, but when it doesn’t they treat us like disposable trash?

[avery58]

You don't have to intervene in a theft, just call the cops and tell them someone is getting robbed at gunpoint (if they are)... That's just what any responsibe citizen would do.

But not doing anything when you see someone being physically or sexually assaulted if you can help is a shitty thing to do... This goes for anyone. I wouldn't stay still or go hide if I see someone is getting raped for example.

Also, I'm tired of seeing people complaining about women all the time as if all women thought the same way. How do you know a random person's personality? What makes you any different from a misandrist if you hate or resent a woman you don't know and turn the other way when she's being abused in front of you? Again, not talking about theft here.

[Asker]

What makes me any different? Self preservation. You bet your ass I'll turn the other way, a woman being abused is not my problem. I am not risking getting killed intervening in somebody or a woman getting assaulted. have you not heard the many stories of men getting killed for intervening in a woman getting beaten?

Nobody is willing to be captain Simp "save-a-hoe" Williams anymore.

[avery58]

You better hope you never have a daughter then. Cause God forbid something like that happened to her and someone like you leaves her to her fate or refers to her as a hoe like you're referring to all women

[Asker]

What makes me different from a misandrist if I hate or resent women I don't know? I have endured abuse from women, including my black peers and my own adoptive mother, every fucking step of my goddamn life.

imagine your mother shattering your face with a two by four in 1994, your face swells up you look like a goddamn raccoon, and she constantly abuses, beats you with aluminum baseball bats and two by fours, slaps, mocks you for it, and continues to mock and threaten you until one day in 2013, she drops dead..

imagine your mother kicking you down the fucking basement stairs because she's taking the anger at the broken down car out on you..

imagine your mother and the entire neighborhood, MOCKING, disrespecting you, and telling you you'll never be shit... that your adhd ruined her life, that I'm unwanted..

And YOU have the audacity to ASK ME what makes me different from a misandrist? ALL I KNOW IS DISRESPECT AND ABUSE...

HOW can I NOT resent women? As far as I know and am concerned you are all just like my mother:

abusive
narcissist
hateful

and...

resentful.

Everybody will have to prove to me that they are not out to fuck me over and abuse me. once slight and they're finished.

[Asker]

@avery58 daughter? who the fuck said I wanted kids when I can't even stand the little fuckers?

[Asker]

@avery58 I could tell you plenty of horror stories about other people's kids from my own childhood up until now.

[avery58]

I'm sorry you went through all of that. I can't blame you for your feelings regarding your trauma... Same as I wouldn't a woman who was a rape survivor who hates men. Holding resentment is out of the victim's control. But I think you should try to seek help from a therapist, for your own mental well being.

At least try to remember that what your abusers put you through is not the fault of another person who happens to be the same gender as them, it's hard but try to. Hate only punishes the person who feels it, it's a terrible and hurtful feeling.

[Asker]

therapy doesn't work for men why the fuck would I waste my money on somebody or something that doesn't even help in the long run?

[1073sucks]

I don't know.. I’m
Not a man but sometimes it’s just better to let stuff go. How many times do people end up dead because they tried to help.
I’d risk my life for a child being rajen but not for a grown adult being jacked for some stuff regardless of how valuable you may think that stuff is, it’s not with your life nor mine, nor any man’s life

[U4ea0]

All of these strong, independent women who can't take care of themselves...

No man is obligated to intervene when a stranger woman is getting smacked around in public or victimized in some way. He is obligated to protect his female family members, friends, or girlfriend/spouse. If she isn't one of those, well to bad. My wife made it clear she doesn't want me risking my life or freedom for these women.

Getting involved can have serious legal consequences and or get him killed.

[Lliam]

I couldn't just stand by and allow someone to be physically abused if they had no means of escape.

And I don't have negative feelings toward all women just because a few feminists are ass holes. Some men are ass holes, too, but I don't hate all men.

Misogynists are as bad as misandrists.

A fantasy of some idyllic "traditional" culture is for weak, immature, uneducated idiots who get rejected by women and are incapable of blaming themselves.

[Asker]

Would you allow a man to be physically abused? What if he is unattractive and broken from a lifetime of abuse by women in his life?

[Lliam]

You're asking two different questions.

I said I wouldn't stand by and do nothing if I witnessed ANYONE being "physically" abused, man or woman.

What does that have to do with the pussy ass notion of "a lifetime of abuse by women"? That's not my responsibility. I'm not a psychologist or counselor.

What is this shit about abuse by women, anyway. Did they take advantage of his dumb ass, hurt his feelings, beat him up? He can't get an ultra-hot babe because of "feminism". What happened to his balls?

Do you feel sorry for women who have suffered at the hands of men?

[Asker]

Apparently I'm talking to a gynocentric, blue pilled man whos apparently offended by the "pussy ass" questions.

In that case, I don't feel sorry for women who have suffered at the hands of men. Most usually choose the abusive man because he gives her tingles between her legs.

Either, choose a side, or be regarded as, or perish with the enemy. This is war.

[Lliam]

Learn how to be a man. Women respect men, not tender snowflakes who think they should be entitled.
Can you do anything but play video games, jerk off to anime and feel sorry for yourself while living in the on-line manospher?

[Lliam]

😭😭😭. Dude, you're around 40 and still haven't grown up?

[Asker]

At least I'm employed and not running around robbing and killing people.

Are there any more insults you like to throw?

[Alli112]

I think it's more an obligation to help the people around you in general based on your capabilities. (Ex. if someone is being physically harmed, doing something to stop the problem that doesn't put themselves in significant harm's way either. Like no, you don't have to risk your life, but there are a lot of cases in which you could just call the cops, take a pic of the perpetrator or make it seem like the victim in a nonviolent confrontation isn't on their own (and therefore less vulnerable) so the other person backs off)

[RebelinSteel]

You help people irrespective of gender. From the bits used it sounds like you would let anyone be robbed and not help?
The only caveat is if your own life is very much at risk, however other than that it does not matter if it’s a kid, someone your own age or older, guy or girl, you try to help, even if it is encouraging others to help out.
There are too many people in society not prepared to help others.

[DrPepper12]

No. Not at all. Even cops have no obligation to intervene. However, social mores will motivate many men to action to impress their peers / potential mates in the hopes of reproduction. We are slaves to our lizard brains and desire to procreate. I wish it werent so but it is.

[hahahmm]

It's hilarious when people who don't act traditional want others to be traditional when it benefits the non-traditional. Just say, 'nope'. If the women on the Titanic were as rude & disrespectful to men as modern feminists are then the guys would have let them drown. For the same reason you wouldn't rescue a wild rat that's trying to bite you.

[Anonymous]

Look. Nobody should stand around and allow someone to be robbed. Most people (men and women) are cowards anymore. Nobody wants to carry guns to protect themselves or others. Nobody wants to step in and help anyone. So criminals just take advantage of that. Because nobody defends themselves or anyone else.

Now women who bash men are typically having a hard time finding a decent man for a reason. That’s another story.

[SeriouslyNotSerious]

You help people regardless of their gender. It's heartless humans like you.. that makes us lose hope for humanity.

[Asker]

I would rather be heartless, then help a society that hates me for being black and male. I had hopes of saving the world one day, but I was bullied, abused, and mocked. YOUR society made me lose hope for humanity.

Your society made me hate you. I won't lift a finger to save American citizens when shit hits the fan in this country I'm saving my own goddamn ass.

[Asker]

and I'm far past tired of these preachy ass women in this fucking country who think they're so fucking self righteous following the latest social issues that nobody gives a fuck about because they're too busy trying to keep a fucking roof over their head.

[PeachyPie93]

All the woman who picked the bear don't deserve the help lol. She didn't get hurt so no need to intervene.

[NamerOfStars]

No, you're simply required to do so in order to win the approval of horrifyingly sexist bigots on the internet. Does their approval mean that much to you?

[_piotr]

That is horrible. The world is gynocentric. Of course a good human should help another, it is a noble thing to do. But being forced to do it, just because he was born a man is evil.

[_piotr]

Men can also be afraid, paralysed from fright. They also have their families for which they want to live. Women do not understand that.

[Staximus]

Men are obligated to stand up for what's right and stop pieces of shit from walking all over everybody

[Asker]

so are they obligated to stand up for what's right, possibly at the expense of losing their own lives?

[Pohjolan]

Women want to keep their cake and eat it too. Now I do put myself at risk for random people but I'm pretty old school otherwise as well.

[Anonymous]

The only women I'm dying for are my girl, my sister, and my mother.

[Dargil]

Not obligated its voluntary.

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

Nope.