Hmm... I wonder what kind of rhetoric could possibly lead someone to make an assassination attempt on Trump?

[Snakeyes7]

Could it be...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XKlzAgDKU4Q

[FreyaRed]

It's not rhetoric. It's chemical brain stimulation with sophisticated hallucinogens and proper psychological conditioning. You can't convince someone to kill another person if the person doesn't want to kill anyone but if the person is willing to kill a target, but is too incompetent, doesn't have organizational skills or has doubts to do the 'right' thing, there are specialists who help with that if a scapegoat is in demand.

[Snakeyes7]

Is that not the same thing as war propaganda, even if it is directed at members of their own society? The more you address someone or a group as a threat, the more likely that people will believe it and some might try to solve the problem on their own.

In Nazi Germany, I heard that the common folk were actually helping the officers round up the Jews and loading them on the trains because they were so brainwashed into thinking that the Jews weren't even human anymore but diseased animals that needed to be culled.

[purplepoppy]

Every group that stirs up hatred against other races, religions, genders, political opinion, etc all worship the ground Trump walks on. They all fly his banner yet magically he's not supporting any of them. Bollocks, no ones that stupid, they wouldn't be kissing his arse if they didn't expect he'd make their dreams come true.

[Snakeyes7]

Really? Even the creeps from the mainstream media and in congress I showed in the video (that you clearly didn't watch) who say that Trump is the new Hitler, that his supporters should be harassed in public, and that straight white men are a threat?

That isn't stirring up hatred to you?

[purplepoppy]

But he is the next Hitler

[Snakeyes7]

How is he the next Hitler?

[DrPepper12]

@Snakeyes7 He paraphrases hitler, his wife said he had mein kampf in night stand, he's creating concentration camps for non citizens, he holds rallies, he surrounds himself with yes men, he attempted a coup, he's a felon like hitler. I could go on and on but you won't hear it!

[Snakeyes7]

@DrPepper12
1. Illegal immigrants don't count as racial hatred dude. These guys came from all over the world and have deliberately disobeyed the law. They should be held accountable.

Also Don Lemon said that white men are a terroristic threat to the country, that makes him closer to Hitler than Trump because he is basing it off what those people ARE and not what they do.

www.washingtonpost.com/.../

2. You know you can read Mein Kampf at any time right? I'm pretty sure you can buy it off of Amazon. You can also read it to point out similarities as to what is happening now and boy have I seen similarities in our own government and culture right now. Lemon is just scratching the surface.

>he's creating concentration camps for non citizens

Those were created by Obama to separate children from possible child traffickers. The fact that the left is now calling them concentration camps is really saying that Obama is the latest reincarnation of Hitler.

>he holds rallies

Hey news flash! That's what politicians who are running for president do! Have you seriously forgotten that the democrats literally did the exact same thing prior to the 2020 election?
Biden didn't do it for some reason and just hid away until he was somehow popular enough to get elected despite very few people having even heard straight from his mouth what he wanted to do and were shocked to see that he was a dementia-ridden old fart this whole time. It's not like the media was hiding that fact either and they act shocked that he is what he is now just to fool you into thinking that the media wasn't lying to your face and calling the videos of Biden fumbling "cheap fakes" as Jeanne-Pierre called them.

>he surrounds himself with yes men

Congrats! You have just discovered yet another thing that politicians do all the time!

[Snakeyes7]

@DrPepper12

>he attempted a coup

This was never proven, stop asserting that it is. All attempts to get him on that failed.

>he's a felon like hitler

Hitler actually attempted an insurrection almost like the BLM rioters did on May 29th 2020 when they tried to set fire to the white house lawn after successfully burning down St. John's church.

The worst you could get Trump for was falsified business documents which a misdemeanor that was upgraded to a felony because you fascists really wanted your political rival in prison THAT badly. Badly enough to violate many constitutional rights in the process, just like what fascists do.

You guys have been calling him hitler long before he supposedly did any of this so the reason people don't believe you is because you were crying wolf for far too long.

[DrPepper12]

there's not one word of truth or logic there. Not even "the"

[Snakeyes7]

@DrPepper12 Then my all means, prove me wrong.

[normalice]

Didn't Alex Jones suggest assassinating Trump would give the far right everything it wanted? That might have done it.

Butnit sounds like the shooter had plots against lots of politicians from accross the aisle, so likely this wasn't motivated by any simple left v right ideology.

[Snakeyes7]

I don't watch Alex Jones so I can't confirm that. That doesn't even make any sense anyway. If the left sees Trump as the embodiment of the far right, how would Trump being assassinated bring any benefit to them?

[normalice]

Because trump alive is a bumling idiot but as a martyr he can be anything they want to imagine. That's one of the main reasons a death penalty is a bad idea, in fact.

But the idea was Trump getting assassinated would cause the armed far right militants to rise up in unison to ignite a civil war. And that is, indeed, everything the far right wants. At the moment those militants are placated by the chance that he could win. Remove that by killing him and they would all be forced to conclude they have no other options. That was more or less the logic used by Alex Jones.

[Snakeyes7]

Trump is supposedly the pipeline for the far right to enter the government, right? What good would Trump be to them if he's dead?

Sure they could claim that he is a martyr but who among the government will listen? There is a vocal few but that's it, the rest of them hate his guts so much that they just hysterically scream that he is Hitler long before he has even done anything to deserve such comparison and even before he became the top candidate for the Republicans.

[normalice]

Trump is a pipeline, not the pipeline. Heritage Action bankrolls nearly all of the gop's messaging not just trumps.

[Snakeyes7]

Trump is the only presidental candidate who carries that message along, at least in 2016 and 2020. There is a reason why the establishment is trying so hard to get rid of him, he is a threat to their plans, he wants to stop the wars, he wants to stop relying on our economic rivals for our production, he wants secure borders and the war mongering elites can't have that.

[normalice]

Yes, but only because he takes up so much oxygen if Trump had chosen not to run he could have anointed any successor and it would have been exactly as effective. The target audience comes to them WANTING to suspend disbelief. It's not hard if you have the initiative handed to you on a fake gold platter.

[Snakeyes7]

They are running to Trump because they are sick of the left making literally everything about labels, sick of the economic crisis, sick of the constant wars, sick of their constitutional rights being trampled on.

They want it all back to where everyone got along because they were called fellow Americans and not by their skin color, gender or whatever. All of these leftist initiatives have done nothing but make it worse.

[normalice]

No, they are sick of right wing media telling them the left does that. The left doesn't actually do that. And we are not in an economic crisis. And global alliances are how you end wars without being made into someone's conqured territory. And no constitutional rights are being trampled on, other than abortion restrictions.

But, you don't want to hear any of that because it's boring to be told the exciting bullshit you believe is bullshit, I guess 🤷

[Snakeyes7]

>No, they are sick of right wing media telling them the left does that.

I literally just posted a video of leftist media being they very thing they claim they oppose. Watch it.

>The left doesn't actually do that.

On an individual level, yes. The majority of people on either side are misrepresented as racist lunatics by the media. However, it is the left wingers that the media overwhelmingly tries to appeal to so they project their bigotry to the other side while clearly not caring whether or not they hold up to their own moral standard.

>And we are not in an economic crisis.

Then what are people (incorrectly) blaming capitalism for?

>And global alliances are how you end wars without being made into someone's conqured territory.

It's one way, not participating in any wars but beefing up your defenses is another way. Literally the only reason Japan hasn't invaded us in WWII was because "There would be a gun behind every blade of grass" according to Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto. Can you guess what policy he was referring to?

>And no constitutional rights are being trampled on, other than abortion restrictions.

Read the bill of rights. Freedom of speech, the right to bear arms, the right to due process, the right to no unreasonable searches and seizures are examples. Anything not mentioned there (abortion) is left up to the states as stated in the 10th amendment.

The leftist media does everything in is power to make people side against having these rights and making them willing to vote them away. Trump is the only president in a long time to show some respect to these rights and that is one of the reasons people like him. If Trump really was Hitler, he would work to get rid if these rights too and ironically the leftist media would be kissing his ass constantly.

Believe that it is all bullshit all you want but all you have to do to see my position is read the constitution and pay attention to what the media is saying knowing that they are pathological liars.

[normalice]

I'm not giving your clipped and out of context misinformation a free view, sorry.

[Snakeyes7]

Whatever dude. Keep watching that mush and clearly biased info the mainstream media provides you

[normalice]

The AP has its faults but biased? Compared to you far right loons there is not nearly enough bias to mention.

[DrPepper12]

Its called stochastic terrorism when he instigates violence with plausable deniability. See J6 as a great example. Trump is just a narcissistic sociopath. Its that simple.

[Snakeyes7]

Lmao you can't just make that argument when the literal opposite just happened last Saturday and no evidence of the other side doing it, ever.

We never got closure on J6 but the more evidence that comes out (i. e. surveillance footage) of the supposed attack, the more it looks like it was staged.

[Snakeyes7]

*that Saturday

[DrPepper12]

Yeah, antifa posing as MAGA, right? Pelosi refused to call in the guard, right? All a big coverup, right? 🙄 JFC how do you people eat without stabbing your face with the fork?

[Snakeyes7]

John Sullivan was apparently not a member of anifa (which doesn't mean much because the left thinks that antifa is just an idea) but he was allowed to sell the footage to the media for 70k.

The capitol police chief stated that he was not given backup when he requested it. Not sure if Pelosi was involved.

There was footage of the shaman guy being taken through the building by cops who didn't treat him as a threat (i. e. not having their back turned towards the supposed threat). The idea of the footage realasing has left many establishment politicians scared. Other pictures show the shaman in the halls surrounded by people with cameras.

There were allegedly two gatherings, one the actual protesters and the other the "insurrectionists". I would imagine the cops were holding the doors open for the protesters.

The "insurrectionists" somehow either didn't bring any guns or didn't fire them and actually thought they would be successful.

People who weren't even there ended up getting 20 years in prison after spending at least a year in jail with no charge nor trial.

Ray Epps, the guy who was caught actually telling people to invade the capitol got off with a slap on the wrist, not helping him in the case that he was a fed all along.

Trump tweeting and putting videos out telling them to go home. None of them were ever calls for violence.

I'm not sure how you can see all of this and not think that something doesn't add up.

[DrPepper12]

How was 2,000 mules? I hear it was a fact based documentary.

[Snakeyes7]

I didn't watch it. I like Dinesh D'Souza so I assume he did his research but I don't really think what he found matters. If he was correct about his findings he would have whacked just one of the moles that dug the suspicious holes in the election.

Blue states the "screw the rules, I make them" card when they did ballot harvesting citing covid for these rule changes. The mainstream media also lied that the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian disinformation as they came out and admitted it was a lie after Biden got elected. Time magazine also wrote about a shadow campaign that was put in place to "fortify" the election.

time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

Trump wanted to call all of these things out but the media condemned him for it while the same wasn't true for the previous three times a candidate was suspicious of the election results.

[Anonymous]

Probably the fact that the democrats have been preaching all kinds of hateful stuff and encouraging violence. I'm gland I'm not trump, if i was the summer of love would never have happened. I'd have called in the army and declared martial law when the rioting happened, and there would be a lot of dead BLM antifa terrorists.

[juliaanita]

Ya, those last 10 words of yours aren't hateful at all, Mr. anon

[Opinion Owner]

Your side called for the same thing for the j6 people. Don't deny it

[Snakeyes7]

I wouldn't advise killing them, they should at least be arrested and have their due process.

[Opinion Owner]

Agreed, but I'm an asshole.

[Snakeyes7]

I'm glad you aren't in power then.

[Opinion Owner]

didn't you see where I'm glad I'm not trump? Yeah me too. Like I said, I'm an asshole. I think acts of terrorism don't deserve due process.

[Snakeyes7]

Indeed you did say that.

[Gent207-2]

The same rhetoric that has led to much political violence in the past