Can Israeli and Palestinian kids be friends?

[Skinhead-1979]

Yes, they can.

Parents stand in the way... Heart-Breaking documentary of an Israeli girl who befriends an 'Israeli-Palestinian' girl but then completely abandons the friendship because he parents brainwashed her.

[Berethor]

Well the Quran says that Muslims should not be friends with Christians and Jews.

https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/friends-with-jews-christians.aspx

[Skinhead-1979]

IF we are to compare religious books... The Bible is full with genocide.

While you are correct that in the Qur'an there is talk about 'Kufr' (unbelief) and 'Kafir' (Unbeliever); Takfir, which is being promoted in Wahhabism, is not accepted by mainstream Muslim.

Have there been many instances in which Muslims killed unbelievers? Yeah, probably... But what did the Catholic Church do then with its Inquisition? What about the many Witch Trials then which have been executed by the Catholic, Protestant and Reformed Church? What about the massive slaughter of Protestants and Reformists, by the Catholic Church, during the Reformation?

But was it common practice for Muslims to kill Jews or Christians simply for following a different religion? No. Because Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all 3 Abrahamic Religions, Muslims still see Jews and Christians as 'People of the Book' The thing is, Muslims feel Jews have been mislead by their Religious leaders. Because Christianity started at as somewhat of a 'Jewish Sect', that accusation has been extended to Christianity too. Moses, Musa, is the prophet who is being mentioned the most in the Qur'an; Jesus, Isa, is a very import Prophet in Islam too. The only thing disputed in Islam regarding Jesus is the he is not God's son; Allah cannot have children.

In that regard Jews have been rather tame compared to Christians and Muslims.

Oh, I think it is needless to say... but I will do it any way... I 'owe' no allegiance to either Religion.

[Berethor]

When the inquisition was? muslims doing terror against jews and christians to this day.

[Skinhead-1979]

I am sorry... but I am sure you know yourself you are not entirely correct.

While it is of course indisputable that due to conflict and the existence of some very Extreme 'Islamic' groups Christians and Jewish people die... It goes too far to make any statements regarding the false presumption that Muslims are in any way more 'barbaric' than their Jewish and Christian Counter-Parts. While I have heavily disagree with, and can also disprove, the 3 Abrahamic Religions; Religion is not at fault here, it's what people do with it.

I can go write a lengthy 'essay' now in which you will find that we can find some common ground; but the overall statement of mine will completely disprove yours.

The OP is about Palestine/ Israel... So if we are to continue we should stick with that. You are under the wrong impression, so it seems, that Christians are equal to Jewish people in Palestine/ Israel. If so, Christians are being marginalised by the Jewish Majority and government. The reason for this is really simple: Most Christians in Palestine/ Israel, and in the wider region as a whole, are of Arab descent. The Maronite-Christians in Lebanon are allied to Hezbollah (Hasn't always been the case; during the Lebanese 'Civil' War they were enemies).

[Skinhead-1979]

It is indisputable that Israel is the 'aggressor', 'oppressor', here. As I have tried to point out, Israel has no *right* to exist. There is the case to be made that because Jerusalem is a Holy City to Jewish People they should be able to *live* there. Yes, of course... contrary to what we are being made to believe, Jewish people... despite the 'dirty' Jizya tax (Muslims had to pay 5 taxes; and with paying of Jizya came a large amount of autonomy)... didn't have a bad life in the various Caliphates. Zionism is not a part of Judaism; it has nothing to do with Judaism even though there are some similarities. Zionism is an ideology which first developed during the 'Jewish Enlightenment', Haskalah, of the late 18th/ early 19th century and further evolved as a result of a 'fusion' between Secular Zionism and Orthodox Judaism.

The Balfour Declaration promised a 'Jewish Home', not a 'Jewish Sate'; and in 1939 Britain issued the White Paper of 1939 clearly outlining its intentions with the 'British Mandate of Palestine': It was to become a single state with an Arab majority and within its border was to be a Jewish enclave to honour the Balfour declaration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Paper_of_1939

Naturally Zionists disagreed... starting a terror campaign against the British in Palestine... and due to Britain having been weakened during World War 2 the issued got referred to the UN. The Special UN Envoy Count Bernadotte got murdered by Zionist (He was a War Hero; he had saved many Jewish people from the Gas Chambers!), and eventually it was Harry Truman who forced the UN to accept a 'Zionist' State.

[Berethor]

Maybe you should live in a Caliphate and see how great it is, Jizya is Extortion.

www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/jizya.aspx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcsG-u2GtZE

[Skinhead-1979]

Paying Tax is not extortion... and as I have pointed out A) Dhimmi (that's what Non-Muslims were being called) did receive some forms of autonomy and religious freedom in return B) Muslims had to ay 5 taxes.

This subject and how it is being presented is a clear case of 'Propaganda'; Lies and half-truths, mixed in some with truth, with sole purpose to alter a wider audiences opinion/ mindset.

Sorry... While I do have to admit that I am of course not fully immune to propaganda, most of the time it has no effect me.

With you CNN video you have made it clear where you stand on US politics. The Republicans have made the baseless statement that because the UK is now being governed by the Labour party which *should be* Left-Wing; the Labour Party is not Left-Wing, the UK will turn into a Muslim Extremist Bulwark This claim is being abused for Political purposes in the US elections and therefor is also Propaganda. I am shocked you actually believe this nonsense... I am sure you a lot smarter than that.

Regarding Sharia Law in the UK, and some other European Countries: Sharia law is allowed as long as it does not conflict nor contradict State Laws. Sharia Laws is only being applied in Civil Case, like Divorces, some financial cases and most certainly no Criminal Cases.

[Berethor]

The video was made before Labour Party taken over, soon Sharia take over everything in Europe. The Labour Party made a lot of moves against Israel, they clearly Left-Wing.

[Skinhead-1979]

Please stop... I am more than happy to discuss British politics with you; but please do proper research first and don't accept 'Fox' as the truth (I don't know what you preferred sources are, other than 1 CNN video; but your sources are dodgy).

While it is true that migrations, so Legal and Illegal, are at an all time high... we are not being overrun by Muslims. Immigration, Legal Immigration in this care, will not be brought down because we have a massive shortage in certain professional sectors and employers simply choose to hire foreigners over the local workforce for many reason; everything comes down to money of course. Illegal immigration is really not as high as you seem to believe; so far 13,500 Illegal immigrants have made it to British Shores, and that on a total immigration of 800,000. That's nothing, it has no impact on the country not the economy.

All our politicians, so also the Labour politicians, are members of the various 'Friends of Israel' groups in this country. While there are certainly some politicians who are vocal about Israel... same as is the case in the US and many other countries... our government and all political parties fully support Israel.

The Labour Party... I have seen the news article... is however becoming somewhat more critical of Israel, but support won't stop. The Labour party has very successfully purged the party from any Left-Wing, Pro-Palestinian, voices and silenced the few remaining ones.

[Berethor]

Keir Starmer is scum, clearly not a friend of Israel, but sure "jews control the world".

www.israelhayom.com/.../

[Skinhead-1979]

While I am somewhat interested in US politics, and most certainly have my own preferences

-No, even though I am classed as Left-wing, I do not support the Democrats, I did not support Biden nor do I support Harris... I am, however, of course leaning towards the Democrats. This is only due to the current political climate; under different circumstances, that may well change over to the Republicans-

I do get involved in discussions... and while I will make my views clear, I am of course fully aware that because I do not know a lot about US politics my views may be 'skewed'. I don't see anything wrong with that, I am after all largely ignorant about the subject; however, if someone who does know what he/ she is talking about, and I can verify what has been said, I will change my views accordingly and will try to do better by doing some more research... I am not stubbornly going to hold on to my views.

I want to be clear that I do not try to change your views; it's not up to me to decide how you should think... but I do try to raise awareness. My views have changed a lot over the decades; it's been a long, gradual process. While I can't, nor do I want to, be always right... I do think I know what I am talking about.

[Berethor]

Well as left-wing you sure be for Harris, as she is clearly a pro-palestinian.

www.cnbc.com/.../...ar-palestinians-netanyahu.html

[Skinhead-1979]

Same as on the 'Right' of the political spectrum, the views of Left-Wing people varies widely from person to person. I am not 'Tribal', so to speak; I do not have a 'Group Mindset'. I think for myself, I support whichever or whomever I feel comfortable with based on the research I have done as best as I can.

The main reason why I do not support a Biden and Harris is because they are not, compared to what Left-Wing is in Europe, Left-Wing; neither is the Democratic party. They would be somewhat in the centre, on some issues Centre-Left, on other Centre-Right.

But yeah, would I look at it from an American point of view; the Democrats are most likely the party I would support, but that does not mean I support its leadership.

Would you ask me which current, or former, US politicians I feel comfortable with; I would answer Obama. Of course he is not perfect, of course he has made [maybe many] mistakes, but I feel he was a very good candidate to be President of the US; I also hold a positive opinion about Jimmy Carter, but politically wise I know next to nothing about him. Republican, Eisenhower probably; but again not because I am familiar with his political views. He was just, in my opinion, the right man for the job at that time.

[SweetJoyGirl]

I think they can be.

[Skinhead-1979]

Of course they can be... No one is being born to hate; 'hate' is being taught.

That's exactly what this documentary tries to highlight.

Of course the same happens, to some extend, within Palestinian families; especially families which have lost a lot... but the whole of Israeli society is being subjected to Propaganda which starts at a very young age.

[Berethor]

What the point in befriending a muslim? it's a fake friend that will try to kill you.

www.thereligionofpeace.com/.../europe-attacks.aspx

[SweetJoyGirl]

@skinhead-1979 Thank you for the MHO! 💜