I ask because it could contribute to instability due to the hookup generation and opinions shared in my experience on here. It's more than just about equal rights for women.
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I do. Not everyone should be parents. Anyone see how many poorly behaved kids out there? Parents blame everyone else but themselves. Should people be more careful? Absolutely it's ridiculous to have many unwanted pregnancies happen in the first place but we can't police these things. And of course pro choice also says if abortion is against your beliefs then by all means don't have one. You can't force this view on someone else because it doesn't affect them.
To add, for 50 years roe v Wade was rule of the land and the fear that people have that women will just have abortions left and right due to hook up culture was never the case statistically speaking. The graph above shows that older generations in their prime years of getting pregnant were significantly aborting more babies than women today. This is just to show how people who rule politics today are not the moral standard they think they are and as time went on cases per 1000 have dropped significantly.
Back to hook up culture. Do you have stats to back up how this will definitely increase abortions? You want to lower abortion, increase access to birth control and education around birth control. People are going to have sex for crying out loud it's our nature to want it.
Also, we have to dispel the belief that the majority of abortions are happening because women think oh I'll just keep having them over and over so I can sleep around. That's not statistically relevant to who is having abortions and how many. We don't know why some women have more than one but only 11% have more than one and the majority have never had any.
We also need to dispel lies that are told about late term abortion.
"In 2021, 93% of abortions occurred during the first trimester – that is, at or before 13 weeks of gestation, according to the CDC. An additional 6% occurred between 14 and 20 weeks of pregnancy, and about 1% were performed at 21 weeks or more of gestation. These CDC figures include data from 40 states and New York City, but not the rest of New York."
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/03/25/what-the-data-says-about-abortion-in-the-us/
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Level to incline. My sister decided that I am responsible for her 30 year old child that refuses to get a job. She was mad at me because I'm supposed to raise him by her opinion and he is supposed to live with me as a free loader.
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That is very odd to me but he isn't a 30 yr old child although I know what you mean. He's an adult that needs to support himself pending nothing health wise is literally preventing him from to which he could get government support and rightfully so.
People that are pro life with zero exceptions should be offering their homes up as foster parents if that's how they feel.
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5.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I am pro-choice. There are any number of reasons why a woman might choose to have an abortion. It's nobody's right to judge.
I have zero problem with chemical abortion that can be performed up to 8 weeks after her last period.
I don't have a problem with an abortion up to the end of the first trimester when the fetus has no nervous system or consciousness.
I do have a problem with abortions performed after that unless they are for medical reasons.
And I am strongly opposed to late term abortions.
With readily available pregnancy tests, there is no excuse for waiting for months before realizing that you are pregnant and making a decision.
I have a major problem with women who used serial abortion as a means of birth control. That indicates an unacceptable level of stupidity and callousness. I wouldn't be opposed to forcibly tying a woman's tube who did that repeatedly. She should never be allowed to have children.
Sexually active women should use contraception. Period. If they don't like the pill or any other option, they should insist on condoms.
All of my girlfriends from the time I was 16 were on the pill. I estimate that I have came inside women well over 5000 times with never a pregnancy scare.10 Reply
Anonymous(18-24)1 yI think an abortion is okay before there’s a heartbeat. After that it’s a living thing. If a woman is raped or there’s incest or her life is on the line I don’t think an abortion is wrong at any point of the pregnancy. Then again if a woman is raped she should know earlier on that she’s pregnant bc I have been raped before I thankfully didn’t get pregnant but I was on top of it to make sure I wouldn’t be. I can’t speak for everyone of course because these are my morals and I wouldn’t judge a someone else’s situation.
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1 yThis is ignorance. A woman should have the right to have unlimited access to a medical procedure that performs life saving measures for a number of health reasons outside of aborting an unwanted baby. Embryos die at all stages. The egg attaches in the wrong place. These can cause bleeding out, severe infections, all sorts.
Some people are so adamant about keep gov in check. Project 2025 and other trash. Stay out of women's uteruses. Pot / kettle.
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There is a problem with abortion on demand. Many people use abortion as a form of birth control, instead of real birth control methods. Their attitude is if I get pregnant I can get an abortion so I can fuck bareback
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@onedarkcloud than deal with the individual. Nobody should have a medical procedure taken away from them for a few individuals poor choices. It's like shutting banks down because some rob them, only without the threat of death should the door be locked.
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@dustybiker2 then you’ll you support a law prosecuting women that have an abortion in any situation other than a medical emergency or else rape or incest accountable for murder or at least homicide?
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I am not saying to take away anyone's individual right just saying what people are using that right for birth control. Here in New York abortion is included to the point of birth. A woman can deliver a live healthy baby and if the mother asks for an abortion a doctor comes along puts the baby on its stomach and shoves a scissor into the back of the child's head abortion complete. Under the guise of abortion on demand the murder of a human.
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@VanillaSalt BNever said that only that the pendulum has gone too far the other way. The Federal Government has no right to dictate by law any abortion that right is now where it belongs with individual states and they deal with abortion the way their citizens want. Whatever state you live in.
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@VanillaSalt That is insane. No. Go about your wall.
@onedarkcloud where did you hear that complete fabrication? Good lord. - 1 y
*ignore the wall comment. It pasted from my clipboard for some reason. Not relevant.
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That's what you think. You got what everybody wanted this is the aftermath. Do not forget there is a huge demand for fresh body parts they bring top dollar
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@dustybiker2 lol I was confused… you just said we shouldn’t take away medical procedures for all women because of a few… so you recognize that a few are doing it wrong… What do you suggest we do to these women that are doing it wrong?
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@onedarkcloud That is not happening.
@VanillaSalt That is the snag. You can't punish all woman for the stupid choices of a small select few. - 1 y
Doctors can always refuse.
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That is up to the state she lives in. Their laws regarding abortion. As for New York as described it is legal to commit infanticide those are the laws passed as written. I do not like it but it is the law passed by the people's representatives. Legal till changed.
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So do we justify these women that are wrong or do we target them specifically with punishment and how do we do that?
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That is true! So the next Doctor in line does it same ending.
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@onedarkcloud It is not true. No doctor is taking scissors to the back of babies heads. Not in America. Not in 2024. Just stop. Educate yourself.
@VanillaSalt Do you want the government up inside your dick? A woman's body is her own. You can't make someone do something with their body. Especially if you are a person who is saying they dislike gov controls elsewhere, it's hypocritical. It would have to be a doctors choice. - 1 y
I've pretty much said all I have to gentlemen. Circular conversations go on forever.
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Exactly you can justify the murder of babies and support no consequences for using abortion as contraception.
Thats fine it’s your choice. But I disagree to a disgusting degree. - 1 y
Sorry you do not like the truth but then again that is your right and privilege to believe anything you want right or wrong. You forget this is New York the left here goes way way way left
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@onedarkcloud @VanillaSalt
Neither of you could be more wrong. But I suppose neither of you have literal experience either. Which makes sense why you hold those stances.
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1 yEven rape and incest are questionable to me. In the case of rape she can have the child and give it up for adoption. Asking her to do that however is quite cruel and I don’t really care about the baby so ide overlook this one. Incest… same except ide be more willing to allow this abortion. According to planned parenthood back in the late 2010s rape and incest only made up 1.7% of all of their abortions.
If it isn’t these two issues or the baby isn’t malformed… abortion should be illegal. Make better choices. Accountability.
In the case of medical emergencies… Any action taken to save the mother’s life that kills the baby isn’t and shouldn’t be considered abortion and thus completely legal to save the woman’s life. Excluding depression cause some twisted fuck will use that as an excuse.10 Reply There was once a Durex advertisement that went something like "You had sex without a condom? What did you expect? A plasma TV?" I'm not surprised many people have said it's the woman's right, it's just GAG members being GAG members. Sadly, abortion is now used as a method of birth control. If both the man and the woman has functioning brain cells then both of them know what to expect with unprotected sex. Whatever they call as "a right" is just a validation to get away with the consequences that they don't wanna accept. In an age where gender is supposed to be a social construct, I'm not surprised people coming up with theories justify this.
20 ReplyYes. Using abortion as birth control is absolutely despicable. It's murdering an innocent baby to enable your own hedonism. Any woman who gets an abortion just because she doesn't want the responsibility of a kid should be ashamed of herself, as well as any man who encourages it. They made the decision to have sex, any consequences of that decision are their own to deal with. It's not the baby's fault, there's no reason it should be murdered for someone else's mistake.
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1 yThat is a choice women should have, so long as the choice is made before fetal visbility outside the womb.
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I always had that opinion until the influence of gag. Recently I thought about the inevitable outcome of an overwhelming female population who have random sex from the effects of social media influence. They will kill possibly an entire generation and choose what dies and doesn't.
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1 yIf they can’t afford the baby or the baby wouldn’t be happy with them. They should just abort it.
It’s still better to kill embryos than give birth them but let them suffer in the shitty world.16 Reply- 1 y
It's called adoption but sometimes they can get worse parents than the ones that made them.
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If you hit a point of suffering or poverty in your life should somebody kill you?
Your answer will be no for whatever reason you think deciding to kill someone else is better than killing yourself in the same circumstances. I won’t fault you for that if I had to choose ide kill some one else to save my own life because I value my own life more than theirs. Just want you to accept that you don’t care about the babies. - 1 y
@Sharkstealth are u sure every baby who ended up in the adoptive parents would be happy with that? If you can’t taking care of the kids just donmt give birth of them. many people end up with depression after they found out they are not just a child taken from adoption.
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@VanillaSalt yes sure if the cause of my suffering is my parents who could not raise me properly when I was growing up. They shoudn’t have kid, they should just kill me when i was baby or just abort me. That’s the point, if u can’t take care of your kids, don’t have one.
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@isannalee you’re old enough to buy a gun if your life was so bad why haven’t you ended it? I’m sure you’ve been depressed or sad as some point in your life or you’ve been in pain or suffered… Why didn’t you just die then?
It’s because you saw enough value in your life to justify it. - 1 y
@VanillaSalt please read properly before reply my comment. Bye
Anonymous(30-35)1 yAbortion should be available in cases of rape, incest and threats to the woman's life or health. Abortion should NOT be used as a means of birth control, which has been the case in roughly 95% of abortions performed over the last 50 years. That's disgusting and wrong.
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Opinion Owner1 yCan you explain your updates? I'm having a hard time following them.
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Look up feminists for life. I think one female replied to me with anti abort. There are many women who are anti but the results here show a narrow view. Responsibility I would say speaks for itself. If your responsible no need to abort.
Opinion Owner1 yAgreed
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1 yHookup culture is deplorable. Sure.
However, there are many complications involved in both pregnancy and abortion. No sane woman would inflict the latter upon herself like a walk in the park. It's traumatising!
Hookup culture should be bound by protection. Prevention is most definitely better than cure!
In case of accidents, abortion must be granted. Childfree individuals must game up, in terms of prevention!
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1 yWomen can get abortions because the sky is blue. Full stop. No explanation due or needed.
30 Reply 1.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Women should get abortions for whatever reasons they want to. If men can be pieces of shit that don't have to raise their kids then women shouldn't be forced to birth them
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Make better choices.
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@VanillaSalt I already make good choices
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That comments not to you but the women that chose pieces of shit. Even if they lie to them are you telling me there was absolutely nothing they could have done to get this man more?
Furthermore with contraception and plan b an option there shouldn’t be THAT MANY abortions. I’m gonna run some numbers now cause I’m curious bbl. - 1 y
@VanillaSalt I'm pregnant right now from failed plan b 😆
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I’m back here’s your numbers… in 2020 America alone there was 930,000 abortions. In 2019 rape was 1% of all abortions and incest was 0.5%. Condoms are 87% effective on their own. Plan b for when the condom breaks is 99.9% effective.
Simple math here. 87% covered by condoms and of the remaining 13% 99.9% of that is covered by plan b. 12.987%… total chance of preventing pregnancy 99.987% every time you have sex.
365 days a year with… 167.5 million women total in the states with 7.15% under the age of 12. 155.5 million women 12 and older. To save myself from math I’m just going to figure in celibates and older women and women that can’t have children.
If every one of the 155.5 m women had sex every single day of the year and they used both a condom and plan b there is 56.7 billion opportunities for women to get pregnant in a single year. Factoring in the success rate of contraception… there should be 7.4 M babies born in the year 2020. There were 3.6 M births in the United States in the year 2020. Does not include multiple births but multiple births are about 1.6% so not that high… saving on math for now…
7.4 million babies possible per year that means 7.4 million potential abortions… but only 930k. Until you consider these births take 9 months of pregnancy where women can’t get pregnant and the timeframe women can’t get pregnant and the babies people want and considering how many of these people have sex every single day… can we really justify enough abortions to cover 12.6% of all POSSIBLE child births?
Lots of math hope you like it. - 1 y
3.6 million born + 930k aborted of a total maximum 4.5M babies in a year out of a highly over inflated possibility of 7.4M babies only possible if all of these women have sex every single day…
Y’all need to close your God damn legs. - 1 y
Jk my math went off because I only consider births possible if all women used both forms of contraception as needed. This does not include the ones that were trying.
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1 yWomen should be able to get an abortion for any reason. I'd have a hard time respecting a woman who has gotten more than one abortion, but she should still have that right.
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Yes. I know someone who had eight, and then went on to have four kids.
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@dustybiker2 I stand by women should be allowed to have eight, but that says a lot about her... lol
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I don't think that was right. She loved sex and refused to use birth control.
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And agreed
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You write like choosing which drapes to buy but abortion has a victim.
"Women should be able to get an abortion for any reason"
The same phrase Women should be able to break your windows for any reason" do they have choice like that, to harm? - 1 y
@strateguy632 have you or do you plan on adopting any of these unwanted children? If the answer is "no" I don't care to have this debate with you.
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@dustybiker2 and I don't think it's right, but I think forcing her to carry and give birth to a child she didn't want is worse.
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Eight children. Yes.
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Twelve kids. I know a few woman with that too.
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@strateguy632 and you yet again fail to grasp that the medical procedure which also performs abortions is used to treat other life threatening issues too.
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@strateguy632 I will say that unlike some pro choice people, I don't see it as a "clump of cells" that doesn't matter of you destroy it. It does matter, but the fully developed woman will matter more every time.
... if you're even pro life and not just pro birth. Being pro birth has an entirely different motivation behind it.
@dustybiker2 you know someone with twelve kids or twelve abortions?
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Same woman. She had 8 abortions m and later four kids. So I meant she would have had 12 kids, tech.
12K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I'm pro-life (in most cases). There are, none the less, valid reasons for legal, justified abortions. I will not give mine because it will only be batting practice. Eventually, states will come up with a consensus.
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1 ybecause of my monkey brain putting together anything that rhymes, I almost said outloud "incest is the best" beside my fuckin parents
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1 yWomen should have the right to abort their child whenever they want.
20 Reply 3.9K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Anyone who thinks that rape and incest are the only acceptable times to get an abortion can't really be pro life. What if carrying the baby to term results in death to both. That's two people dead by your definition of a person instead of one.
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1 yI think abortions should be limited to rape/incest AND health concerns for the child or mother.
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1 yUm you left out danger to mother... and MOST importantly number of months pregnant.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 yNo. But they're going to. I wouldn't have such a problem with abortion if all women treated like the nuclear option, unthinkable. But many don't. Too many! Some want the ability to murder children just to spite men. Now how f***ed up is that.
20 Reply18.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. No. The reason is hers alone. I’m not against some deadline for abortions. Most are done by pill before the 20 week period. And even then the fetus is fucking goo.
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1 yThat is a personal Question answered by the individual and not the federal government or anyone's opinion
10 Reply 711 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Whatever she choose. If she made it, she owns it.
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Owns? A Human can't be "owned".
a fetus is s separate life, not even same blood type as mother.
But i guess you deny science about blood types and chromosomes and D. N. A. - 1 y
Not her body not her choice, as above.
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I helped that means I own it too. She couldn’t have without me… hell I did most of the work in making it lmao.
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1 ynot really i think up to 3 months is fair
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1 yI don’t care if women have abortions. Kill those babies ! 🙂
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 ysomething seriously wrong with the fetus or the woman's life is in danger
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Anonymous(45 Plus)1 yNo. Only if giving birth will endanger the life of the mother, should it be allowed
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1 yRape or justified serious medical issues!
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1 yOf course not.
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1 yDo it
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