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Ideally both the women and the doctors should be sent to prison because of it would be the most fair considering both have participated in the crime; killing an innocent human being and inflicting a lot of suffering. There should be requirements though like the woman being informed and a mentally healthy adult to be imprisoned. Not everyone knows what an abortion really is because of lack of information, poor education system and doctors not telling the truth. The feminist movements aren't honest about it either.
But if we're speaking of what's most realistic instead of what's most fair, it would make more sense to priority imprisonment of doctors firstly because of they knows all of the information and performs the actual act. Without the doctors, there would be no one to go to for an abortion. In a more ideal world people would see abortion as bad as others murder cases and seeing it as a crime, but the world isn't ideal and if we're going to have a democracy it's a low chance of getting a ban and make it effective. If the majority vote was against making theft, murder, rape etc. illegal, it would be ineffective to keep it illegal and enforcing the law - so then it would most likely stay legal for democratic reasons.
My country Norway has a democracy and abortion is legal. Unborn people aren't considered alive human beings with feeling or any forms of value or worth. Any kinds of disabilities are considered the burden to the society and getting rid of it's seen as a good solution. If a country is supposed to stay a democracy with free will, then it wouldn't be possible to make it illegal or imprison people. If I became a politician I would never suggest making it illegal or imprison people simply because of I would know it won't decrease the abortion numbers, it would split people more and over 90% wouldn't support it. The children are by law considered the property of the woman until birth although abortions are usually not performed after the 12th week.
I would rather suggest campaigns against abortion and showing it's consequences, giving support to poor families, bettering the adoption- and foster care system, improving the sex education and making contraceptives more accessible. So let's say you've a society where more than 80% wants to legalize theft, murder, rape and genocide - should it be legal then? Yes, it should, if you wants a democracy with freedom and free will instead of a totalitarian dictatorship that would be difficult to enforce. So I wish both women and doctors could be imprisoned, but I knows it's not a realistic thing to do or a good idea because of democracy. You can't ban slavery or genocide either if you're going to have a true democracy in a society where the majority is in favor.
Yes, at the very minimum. Some should be executed depending on the circumstances.
All abortion doctors and staff should receive the rope. We can’t afford to be merciful with such scum.
Don't murderers usually go to jail?
Yes, it’s literally murder
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No. I mean how would you even regulate that? It’s easy to hide.
No, because there's a million reasons why a woman might choose to get an abortion and not all reasons have to do with them being self centered and just not wanting a child.
Could be that she's over the age of 40 and she was told the child will be born with a ton of health complications that will effect their quality of life.
Could be she's got a medical problem, such as a heart condition and having the child is dangerous for her and the child.
Could be she was raped and doesn't want her rapist child or doesn't want to put the child through all the torment they will get from others being a product of rape.
Could be she's teenager and her parents are forcing her to get one. Or, she's a teenager and doesn't want to be a 15 year old mom because she know's she's not ready.
Could be the guy is forcing her to get the abortion (because that does happen)
Could be she's not in a good place in her life, mentally, emotionally or financially she knows she can't provide a good life for that child.
Could be she has no support system and the father wants nothing to do with her and she knows she's not in the right place to be a single mom.
There so many reasons, none of which are criminal or a reason to be in jail. There's so many children in foster care. Children adopted by horrible people who pretended they were loving. Children who's parents kept them but they are on drugs or they live in a place where a shooting occurs every 60 seconds or they just simply ignore them and treat them like crap. Tell me, how is that better then having an abortion and saving a child from having to go through all that?
Why should it be a crime?, do the People who support this idea don't think about the causes and future consequences of the pregnancy?, can they really assure a good future life for both the baby and the mother? both economically and psychologically?
What if the pregnancy was caused by rape (and please, don't say that the victim has the fault, that is so idiotic)?, what if the future baby won't be neither loved nor cared well in the place where he/she is going to be received?, what if the abortion was a miscarriage or an accident?, or what if the family or the future mother don't have the enough resources to take care of the child?
People can be pro-life, but can they then give the help and support so both the future child and mother live and have good and better lives?
In short: abortion shouldn't be a crime unless it can be proved that the future baby can be upbrought and raised in a good healthy environment, that he/she is expected, that there aren't neither physical, economical nor psychological issues around the baby nor the future family is dysfunctional.
Absolutely no. Unplanned pregnancy is mainly caused by men. First, let's ignore about rape, that we can't argue. Secondly, teen pregnancies are generally caused by boyfriends or the guy there are seeing. Thirdly, even will pills and condoms, it is not 100% safe, it is just a prevention only. So, to avoid unwanted pregnancies, don't have sex which is literally impossible. Maybe, don't ejaculate inside? Take more preventive measure to avoid unwanted pregnancies then. Women should not be jailed for abortion, you have to think a lot of situations what if teen pregnancies?
I disagree with penalising the women for abortion, because:
1. How are they going to raise a kid when they are still a kid?
2. If they gave birth to the unwanted child, that child will suffer since the women may just dump the baby somewhere and overpopulated orphanage?
Think about it. It is the women who has to bear the consequences of getting pregnant. Why not jail the men too for not being a man to share the responsibility with the women? It takes two to tango.
Absolutely not. Do we want to shame single mothers or do we want those single women to terminate the chance of becoming a single mother? So many people (mostly conservatives) complain about the rise in single motherhood (which has actually declined) yet they also complain about then having the right to prevent that possibility. This is not an excuse for promiscuous behavior but not every woman who gets pregnant is a slut. Many are shocked when they find out their man wants nothing to do with a kid and leaves. Many are in abusive relationships. Many are already poor and can't afford birth control. If the fetus cannot survive on it's own and is not developed enough then the woman should have the right to terminate. Forcing a woman to go through months of agony for a child she doesn't want is not okay and using the excuse that she could just set them up for adoption is bullshit. If you knew anything about the Foster Care system you would never suggest placing a child in it.
We talk about the "potential" for life. Me jacking off almost every night and not going into a woman is killing potential life. Cumming in a condom is ending the potential for life. Kissing on her tits or face is a disrespect to the possibility of future life. Little babies are in this sperms right? Begins at conception right? Wrong. I care more about the woman than a fetus. She has priority. She can always have another.
Also when abortion is legal it tends to help more than hurt. And abortion cases are down, they have been lowering for almost 10 years. In fact it's at a historical low.
And the same people who are "pro life" are also usually the same people who hate welfare programs that assist mothers with children so spare me the "we must protect the children" nonsense.
My question would be what if the boyfriend or husband wanted the abortion too. would he be jailed too?
No. Would I have had an abortion when I could get pregnant probably not. I was conflicted on would I care a baby full term if the child had something medically wrong. Though I personally am against abortion where the baby was conceived through consensual sex because I do believe that life begins at conception I won't take that right away from a woman. I was lucky enough at 38 to have a healthy baby. I didn't take the risk of getting pregnant again and my luck run out.
Women should be allowed to have an abortion in cases of rape, incest and in cases where the mother's health is at risk. That is a given. There should be more focus on using adequate birth control every time and doesn't mean just use a condom. Also, the emphasis on personal responsibility of not just going with the flow without adequate protection, not using the withdraw method or not getting so waste on alcohol or drugs that oops that just happened.
And men don't get the option to go condom free because it doesn't feel good or play the game of removing the condom when the girl or woman isn't looking. No one likes condoms but we got to live with.
That's the end of my mom lecture of the day.
Post Note: If your boyfriend doesn't want to get labs before you have sex with him walk away.
Is this one of those Russian troll questions designed to get Americans fighting? The majority of Americans couldn't give a shit what someone they don't even know does about an unwanted pregnancy. So let's give this idiotic topic a rest. It's nonsensical.
If you are a woman and you don't like abortion, you never have to have one. If you are a dude, only stick your penis inside your wife.
Case closed.
Like we don't already have more kids living in the streets and alley's of our cities coming from wombs of women who didn't want them and neither did anyone else once they got here. Maybe all the Pro Lifers should get together and pool their money to build places for these unwanted, drug infected (not by their choice), starving children to live and eat with loving adults to care for their every need and provide educational hopes for them instead of just trying to force every pregnancy to full term where there will be no love, no affection, no nothing but the dirt and shit of the streets for their future.
No. Her body her choice.
I'm all for safe sex. I feel like if you take precautions and those precautions fail and you wind up pregnant then you ought to be able to have an abortion guilt-free. If you willingly have unsafe sex and wind up pregnant... then you're an idiot.
Well if they were jailed that would mean they did something illegal. But abortion is legal.
So the law about abortion would have to change to make this plausible. But you can’t change the law then throw every woman who ever had an abortion in jail. You would also have to lock up all the doctors who performed abortions.
I think women who have abortions aren’t evil because I don’t believe that women who have abortions usually understand what an abortion actually is and what happens to their unborn child.
What about the abortion doctor (the majority of whom are male)? And what about the male partner, if he supported the abortion? If abortion is murder, then anyone who supported a person getting an abortion would be an "accessory to murder" which would also make them guilty. So many men would end up imprisoned, too.
Then guys that jerk off everyday should be jailed to then for killing their/wasting their sperm that could've been a potential baby :)
No a woman should decide for herself whether she should get an abortion or without the fear of going to jail. HER BODY HER RIGHTS. What if she got raped? What if she had been sexually abused? What if she was in such a weak state (health wise) that she wouldn’t be able to survive if she had to go through the pregnancy? What if she can’t afford to take care of the child after giving birth? There are so many “What if” factors that play into this. The foster care/adoption system isn’t where a child should be. They are shady as heck and no one should have to be bounced around from one house to another in search for a family. Its sickening how men are getting away for rape and women can now get put behind bars for doing what is right for themselves. No person should tell a woman what to do with her body.
Of course not, no one would advocate for that, nor would it ever be approved in any state here in the USA. I do hope for the day when abortion is as rare as polio, . Abortion is ending a life. Funny how MOST who are pro abortion are anti death penalty and those in favor of the death penalty are anti abortion.
It's no different from someone coming up to you on the street and pulling the trigger. By the end of the day, it's killing/taking a life regardless if they are still in the womb or outside of the womb. Murder is murder, i don't care if your still a developing human being or full grown adult. When a sperm and egg meet, that's a new life. I swear they taught this stuff to us in highschool?
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Here's the bottom line thing. People want the freedom to have sex with whom ever, whenever. Both males and females!!! Women stop trying to blame men!!! Because at the end of the day it is your body that you willing gave, you knew the risk. But when an unplanned pregnancy occurs... let's not take care of "our responsibility". It's selfish... bottom line. There is no justification for abortion. Because while you're all protesting "This is my body!!! I can do what I want with it!!" You best be glad your moms didn't say that as well, because you possibly wouldn't be here right now if they did.
im pro choice because its not up to me to dictate to a woman who was raped or a woman who has been told her baby might have defects or a woman who knows she just isn't ready for motherhood what to do... i can't see your location so i dont know if this is just the way you have been brought up or just general ignorance but really, putting women in prison for making the hardes decision they will ever have to make in their lives does make it look like you are a pure misogynist.
No, but thanks for asking.
Phew, I'm very glad that guys like you won't ever get laid and be able to have offspring. lol
No, because regardless of one's stance on abortion, it's very difficult to tell the difference between a woman who's had an abortion and one who's had a miscarriage. It would be extremely unfair to put a woman in jail after she's had a natural miscarriage because she's under suspicion of having an abortion. To be grieving the unexpected loss of a child and then be put in jail would be just awful.
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