Today we had this debate in my biology class and it was very interesting to hear their opinions and i also want to hear yours.
6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I am pro-choice to an extent.
I understand that accidents can happen. There are any number of reasons why a woman might suffer an unwanted pregnancy. Contraception can fail. Rape can happen.
A young girl can be stupid and naive. I had two girlfriends who got pregnant from their first boyfriends in their early to mid teens. They got early-term abortions and learned their lessons. From then on, they took the pill and never had another pregnancy scare. They went on to become good wives and mothers years later. But their lives and their young boyfriend's and parent's lives would have been messed up if they hadn't gotten those early-term abortions when they were kids.
Forcing a woman to carry an accidental or unwanted pregnancy to full term and deliver a child can be cruel and even sadistic in so many ways for both a woman and child.
So I have zero problem with chemical abortion that can be done up to 8 weeks after her last period. The embryonic cells have no nerves or consciousness at that point.
I don't even have a problem with an abortion within the first 12 or 15 weeks. It becomes problematic after that, though, because the fetus is starting to develop into a baby. With the availability of test kits, she should know by at least 3 months that she is pregnant and whether she is prepared to care for a child.
Abortion after the first trimester should be illegal unless there is a good reason.
I think using abortion as a means of birth control is absolutely wrong. Serial abortion shows irresponsibility and callousness. It should be illegal.
I am a strong advocate of contraception. I think any method a woman chooses should be available free of charge. People who oppose abortion should have no problem having their tax dollars spent to prevent it with contraception.
Abstinence is fine, but it should not be the only means of avoiding pregnancy. People should not be forced to choose between abstinence or popping out babies. I actually oppose abstinence, myself, but it's an individual choice.
I'll add that if abortion is a woman's choice, then it's 100% her responsibility to avoid getting pregnant if she doesn't want a baby.12 Reply- +1 y
thanks for opinion! agreed from my point of view
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Anonymous(36-45)+1 y”I believe in this stuff... but this other stuff that the Bible expressly forbids, well I don’t believe in that!”
The way people pick and choose what aspects of Christianity and the Bible they agree with, while tossing out those passages they don’t, turns your faith into nothing more than an all you can eat buffet, where you’re free to skip the broccoli and eat all the sundaes you want.
What’s even more annoying when dealing with abortion advocates is that they think that ANY objections or criticisms you have of abortion HAVE to come from a religious basis.
So apparently ever single atheist or agnostic out there supports abortion. And the ONLY people who oppose it are stuffy, ultra conservative Bible-thumping Christians.
Oddly these same people who now feel emboldened to attack Christians somehow completely ignore the Jews and Muslims who also oppose abortion. It’s only those mean Christians standing in the way!
There are so many interventions that can be made before abortion. Abstinence. Family planning. Condoms. Female condoms. Spermicidal lubricant. Birth control pills. Using the timing method to track your periods and cycle. And finally, emergency contraception and the morning after pill.
Yes yes. I’ve heard all the stupid counter-arguments before. “Birth control isn’t 100% effective!” WTF is? Seriously, what the hell in life is EVER 100% effective?
Oh that’s right. Death. And that’s why we just gotta be able to kill the babies!
I’m for abortion in very, very limited and special circumstances that are life threatening to the mother (and no, having to raise a child and feed them isn’t “life-threatening”). But the reasons and justifications Liberals have for abortion are patently absurd.
”Abortion is healthcare!”
Yeah. And so is birth control. Use it.
So you say that someone got raped. Okay. Take emergency contraception. It’s very widely available in the majority of pharmacies, is very cheap, and there are even organizations that will help you get it and pay for it. There is literally nothing keeping anyone from taking emergency contraception short of being locked up in a dungeon.
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i agree with you 50% procent. i don’t agree your thoughts anout choosing beliefs in God.
i think women should have a right to do the abortion but im not supporting women that are using abortion for contraception and taking advantage. so i do agree about all contraception methods. - +1 y
so said the anonymous. lol
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@strateguy632 agreed. i don’t know why some people aren’t logged in
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To be fair I'm an atheist and I agree the other religions suck just as much balls. A foetus is not a baby it doesn't have brain activity it's literally just the collection of embryotic cells which will become the baby. The point people make about contraceptives not being 100% is that you don't deserve to be stuck with an unwanted pregnancy as punishment for having the gall to have sex. Many people do not believe in your religion why should non-believers be restricted because of YOUR religious beliefs? If that's reasonable fuck it lets just enforce sharia law on Christians and see how you like it.
411 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. It's another disgusting wedge issue used by disgusting political manipulators to control people.
The issue is easy for anyone with an IQ over 10 to understand. Some people think that a fetus has human rights at say 8.9 months that a baby has as a newborn and do not think it is okay to kill either one except in defense of the mother's life. Others would then extend this to 8.8 months, 8.7 months, etc until you reach the various developmental milestones or even conception. They feel that they are DEFENDING THE LIFE OF A BABY.
The other side does not view an undeveloped fetus as the same as a newborn baby. The think that since for most of its existence it is 100% on the life of the mother and that it is the mother's burden to carry it, she should determine by her own choice whether to keep the baby. The earlier in the pregnancy this happens, the less debate there is, but late term abortions are particularly controversial.
But, that is not what is discussed. If a nationwide compromise of no post first trimester abortions unless in defense of the life of the mother, the issue would die down and with it the money and fury. This means a loss of power by really powerful groups who never want to see an end to it.
If you get up in arms over abortion, you are a tool. You are being used to vote against your own interest on several other issues just to "ensure" abortion goes the way you want, which really hasn't changed in 50 years, despite the crazy talk.
The USA had the MOST liberal abortion laws in the first world. Europe is comparatively draconian compared to the USA.
It's time to stop ignoring our country's decline to fight some stupid issue from 1970.
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+1 yIn terms of simple legality, the government should not have the power to ban medical treatments. I understand why people hate the idea of a woman aborting a baby she doesn’t want, but this is the same procedure used for unviable fetuses too. It’s the same treatment, but going through with the birth means the death of the baby, or the death of the mother, or both. If we give the government the power to ban medical treatments regardless if their reason, it opens a very dangerous door to ban any non-medically urgent treatments which just causes more harm than anything.
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+1 yyes. women should have access to legal, safe abortion care.
pro-choice politics lead to lower maternal mortality, lowered neonate mortality, and fewer abortions over the 4-5 decades since roe v wade was decided. the reality is pro-choice is pro-life.
furthermore. you cannot legislate successfully against a choice people feel is a matter of life and death. before roe v wade people got abortions. if every state makes abortions illegal people will still get abortions. providing legal and safe access is the best path
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nice thanks for your opinion!
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@msmissydc here's a snapshot. not sure of the source www.johnstonsarchive.net/.../graphusabrate.html
here's the CDC for 1980 and 2010 which seems to give credence to the above source:
1980: www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00000366.htm
2010: www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6208a1.htm
after roe v wade there was an initial spike for about 4-5 years. but since the late 70s abortions are effectively in half - +1 y
@Cubus i do understand you don't live in the USA. that's why i said it may not have helped reduce maternal mortality in Poland (where you live) but it did contribute to reduced maternal mortality in the US with roe v wade and greater access to reproductive health care we've seen a direct correlation in reduced maternal mortality
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maternal mortality? you can't use the excuse of mother danger for 90% of abortions when mother not danger.
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this was to mad, but only some reply has name automatic.
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Not trying to take a stand either way but I must point out that everything you just said is complete bullshit.
The fact is that the black family pre roe v wade actually had the highest percentage of intact families. They now have the lowest.
And of those who have had an abortion, the average for the number of abortions they have themselves is two.
whether for or against, the reality is that they have been used as a form of birth control due to both the guy and girl lacking maturity and the $50 a morning after pill could have accomplished which would also be far less painful for the woman. - +1 y
Sure, your body, your choice, (within a respectable timeframe) and while it is highly private matter, just don't kid yourself that you had opportunity after opportunity to avoid being in that position but are here due to your irresponsibility.
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u +1 yI am pro-life. I am so because, first and foremost, I also am a practicing Catholic. I therefore believe that man is made in the image of God and the Church has defined abortion as an objective and grave moral evil.
With that in mind though, contrary to popular belief, abortion is not a religious issue, let alone just for Christians. Jews oppose abortion and so do Muslims and Hindus, but the ancient Greeks (pagans) did as well. And so do some atheists. Look up the organization Secular Pro-Life, which was started by Kelsey Hazzard, an atheist lawyer and also, a woman. True, the most vocal opponents of abortion may be Christians, but that does not make it a strictly religious issue.
I also oppose abortion because of what it is and what it does, and because of what the object of an abortion is, that being the termination of a pregnancy, a fetus. If a fetus can be "terminated" or "aborted", then the only implication is that it is in fact a life. It is not a "potential human life", because what else could it be? What else will it be? The "potential human life" bit is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard in my life.
If the claim is that life does not begin at conception, then those who so claim have to grapple with all sorts of ethical and metaphysical questions regarding when life begins, how they know, why then and why not before or after that specific point, who decides when life begins and on what authority, and a host of others. Then, of course, there are also the facts of fetal heartbeats, separate sets of DNA, and the sex of the child.
So yes, I'm against abortion and no, it should not be permitted by law.
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thanks for your opinion! i like different opinions so therefore i know what people’s thoughts really are
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+1 yConsider that the fetus could one day also become Catholic and never lives to find God because that choice was taken from them. I generally lean toward legal discretionary abortion up to the first heart beat, not viability. Or, viability of an ORGAN. Prior to that, it's a bunch of somatic cells. Cells reproduce on average 55 times before senescence, it's happening all the time in our bodies. But once those cells agglomwrate into tissues which thhen layer into a functioning organ, new life has officially emerged.
I also still support medically necessary abortions left at the discretion of medical personnel on whether to override this mandate in the interests of saving the life of the woman and the child. Both should be of paramount importance. It would be utterly cruel to bring a child into the world without a loving mother.
By state:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_law_in_the_United_States_by_state
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thank tou for your opinion!
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Welcome. You know what's neat. Artificial wombs are going to be viable soon. So if complications arise, now there will be another option for saving the life of both the mother and the child. It gives mother's more options on whether they want to carry their child to term and lowers mortality rates for both the mother and the child.
It's unfortunate people spin technological advancements in a negative light by abusers. I think there are far more good people than bad than we sometimes perceive. - +1 y
you are part right about "more complex than a clump of cells" but then you mentioned "life" even according to biology, not a religious source, life starts from fertilization as books say about dog, any animal when no bias.
same truth for human despite bias.
also same equation for the thing i can't write about y chromosome. - +1 y
@strateguy632 "New" life, and by that I mean an organism. I don't think it's worth mincing words.
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to lov, content new, by then it is OLD life, after fertilization. from fertilization it is new life according to biology, not even religious source.
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@strateguy632 Humans are not single celled organisms. They’re multicellular. Again, back to the standalone cell death observation that occurs in all our bodies.
The heartbeat bill is where I tend to arbitrarily align. But guess what, artificial wombs would account your viewpoint as well. - +1 y
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5.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Shit happens and the miracle of life can't escape death.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/2Pkgdcypu0UThere's that or holes in fetuse brains so large the newborn will be in so much pain that they will never experience falling asleep before they die. Similar reasons are the reason for late stage abortions that is 1% is because the fetuse is not compatible with life.
My personal belief that there is a special place in hell in stopping a blushing wanting mother giving mercy to a fetuse that isn't compatible with life.
From before the founding of America government of the United States of America. It was already a solved issue. Veteran midwifes was able for such accommodation and newer midwifes needed years of experience to handle the procedure.
It was only 1910, 10 years before women suffrage and ability to vote is when USA cared about abortions. It has been and will forever be a wsy to control women.
On top of that since 1910. In the Bible belt majority of child marriages happen. Were a teenager gets raped by someone in their adult to even elderly age and ask the parents of the teenager to marry them and the parents fearingly agreed so the child dosen't go to hell for being a whore.
So i see no reason why women shouldn't have access to an abortion.
11 ReplyI think, it's a deeply personal and complex topic with varying opinions. My perspective is that a woman's right to make decisions about her own body is fundamental. Sympathetically speaking, it's crucial to respect a woman's autonomy and her right to make choices regarding her reproductive health.
Abortion should be safe, legal, and accessible, allowing women to make the best decisions for their unique circumstances. Many factors, including health, personal beliefs, and socio-economic conditions, can influence this decision. It's essential to approach this topic with empathy and understanding, recognizing that every situation is different.
Supporting comprehensive sexual education, access to contraception, and healthcare services can help reduce the need for abortion while respecting a woman's right to choose. Ultimately, it's about balancing individual freedom with societal values and the well-being of women's health.
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u wrote that beautifully!
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her body? the fetus is a different human different DNA and blood type. not her body. so not her choice.
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@strateguy632 Yes, you are right, but after all, it is the mother who grows him in her own body and carries him in her womb for 9 months. Therefore, the person who will make this decision is: If the mother cannot take care of the baby, how healthy is it to give birth? It's definitely about the her body
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to just, we can test that on a toddler "If the mother cannot take care of the baby" that is not justification to kill... after birth so same a month before. also your claim "how healthy is it to give birth" that is natural and common so not justified by the few when mother danger.
if nobody died she can choose about her body, which skirt but abortion has a victim.
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yThe knowledge and science is constantly in a process of development. The day might not be far where babies can wouldn’t even need the body of a woman to develop.
The debate of viability is still going on, there might just come a day where the age of viability becomes established at the moment of conception. How many people would then want to be remembered as child killers then? Although I think by that time the world would reach a level of degeneracy where there is no guilt for murder.
Tons of debates going around based on the nervous system, respiratory system, dependence on the mother etc etc however people fail to realise nothing has been declared as the absolute factor that determines viability. Everyone’s picking whatever fits their narrative and jumping left, right screaming it. No one’s thinking that you could actually be murderers
What else to expect from a time where indecency has been normalised for entertainment. Mind you the old days weren’t really better just different kind of savagery used to go on.
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#1 Most husbands and boyfriends feel entitled to regular sex from their wife or girlfriend.
#2 A male condom has an in-practice failure rate of 18% and roughly only 4-5% of married men have had a vasectomy, it's probably even less for single men.
For all the men who tell a woman to keep her legs closed, why don't they check themselves on the basis #1 and #2. Men are perpetuating the problem while thinking a 20% failure rate is the woman's fault. All while less than 5% of men are taking any sort of (reversible) medical intervention to actually solve their 50% of the cause of pregnancy (no sperm = no Prego).
Of course, men could also keep it in their pants.49 Reply- +1 y
agreed
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#1 if they committed to relationship that is part of adult relationship and in context of abortion use birth control before fertilization.
another option is wait until wedding like sincere Christians. - +1 y
@strateguy632 some people dont ever want kids. Or marriage for that matter. So how about you mind your own
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@Jumpintoadstool about stop being nosy, as i wrote to anonymous , oh won't see so must copy for you, "actually society DOES interfere for a victim. i can't say "mind your own business" if i am domestic violence. which obviously i don't do, just wrote for contrast.
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@strateguy632 huh? Did you just compare domestic violence to not wanting kids or marriage? That is next level unhinged.
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+1 ybad wording, women dont "do abortion" they hire MEDICAL staff, for something that isn't MEDICAL not healing the mother. and lie that it is health care.
pregnancy is not illness to "heal". doctors should get DOUBLE punished for "malpractice" meaning misuse in a harmful way to human fetus, because not real healing, and 2 for harming a human fetus. first "do no harm".
3, the PAIN fetus can feel pain.
how can a mother ignore pain of her own child. who has different d. n. a. not her body even if female. certainly a male fetus isn't realy "her body". so not her choice.
deter clinic staff will save at least half of abortions saving lives.
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+1 yIt's a woman's right to choose and always will be... i think most people have problems with killing babies after a certain period of time... like nobody wants to see a baby at 9 months get aborted. At least I would hope not.
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Choose not to open the legs. It must be illegal in all cases
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@kicod164377 LOL keep dreaming it will never be illegal in all cases ever
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Hahahaha In many countries it is, and as long as it continues to be illegal in the United States, it's fine with me.
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it continues to be illegalized in states in the United States,
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@coachTanthony thanks for tour opinion
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@kicod164377 Many? Andorra and Malta in Europe, El Salvador and Honduras in Central America, Senegal and Egypt in Africa, and the Philippines and Laos in Asia. I wouldn't say that's many
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Enough so that many women cannot do it or die doing it clandestinely. Additionally, several more countries where it is illegal in almost all cases.
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@kicod164377 LOL okay dude thanks for the comments
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@overthinkergirl You're welcome
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@kicod164377 if a woman should have to keep her legs closed then a man should have to keep his dick in his pants.
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french law was until 12 weeks. recently they changed the law to kill more developed so i condemn the change.
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+1 yAbortion is healthcare and must be legal.
Even abortions for no other reason than to terminate a pregnancy are good. An unwanted child is both the cause and victim of so much suffering. The parent (s) suffer an unexpected life change that costs over $1mil in their lifetime, their families and friendships likely suffer, and most importantly the child they unwillingly brought into this world will suffer more than any of them.
An abortion becomes the most ethical option, to save the suffering of the child who has no say in being born.24 Reply- +1 y
health care? who are they HEALING? pregnancy is not illness. it is the OPPOSITE of saving lives... the goal of ambulance and health care. opposite is as far from health care as possible.
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... wtf do oil and gun industries have to do with abortion? Aside from funding the GOP and their strongly anti-abortion party and stance?
Yes. Because let's just think logically why would a mother would want to drop her own child? Because obv she's not ready/capable of giving that unborn child the life it requires. It's mentally unhealthy for the mother as well as the baby. And "legally" speaking if that child is born then it's probable to violate both the mother and the child's right to life Because in my country right to life does not simply mean to be alive. In my opinion a needed abortion can literally save two lives from going down hill.
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great opinion
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would THAT justify after birth? it was the same one inside that came out. and a month before that and a month etc.
those reasons are for ABSTINENCE or birth control. - +1 y
Those reasons are for birth control as well as abortion. Ultimately the point is that the child should not be born if the mother can't handle herself and the child. A mother's mental and physical health matters.
You don't get my point. It would obv Justify AFTER birth because the real challenges are supposed to come your way after the birth not during pregnancy.
And if u wanna care for that unborn child's life then it is for sure that kid is not getting a decent childhood and guess what studies have shown that bad childhood leads to bad adults. Think about it.
Would you rather keep 2 miserable lives? Or have 1 good life and say rip to the other which hasn't even seen the world yet.
+1 yDon't like gay marriage? Don't get one!
Don't like cigarettes? Don't smoke them!
Don't like abortions? Don't get one!
Don't like drugs? Don't do them!
Don't like sex? Don't have it!
Don't like porn? Don't watch it!
Don't like alcohol? Don't drink it!
Don't like guns? Don't buy one!
Don't like your rights taken away?
Don't take away someone else rights!
Mind your own business, keep your nose on your own face, and worry about your own problems, cause we all have our own problems, focus on yourself cause if you are focusing elsewhere, you are missing the true problems of this world! You!32 Reply- +1 y
Here comes the idiot squad, where did I say anything about killing someone?
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+1 yBy the looks of your update, I am not so sure that you want to hear mine. We'll see.
The question is purposely not worded correctly Ms OTG.
Here is the properly termed question...
'Should women be allowed to murder their child?'
Common sense provides the answer without need to 'overthink' it.
Today's global Marxist educational system, or better worded also 'Non-Educational System, has removed common sense from the equation. That part of the thinking process no longer applies.
Those who will attack this reply are the products of the Marxist non-educational system. Some are even paid to attack replies like this.
The others, and most likely you yourself, are a part of a type of MK Ultra without even knowing it... very sad.
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don’t judge me for my opinion 1st of all. i won’t judge u for yours either.
my opinion is that women should be allowed to do legal abortion in case being raped, medical issues, being drugged or just teenage pregnancy. in other cases like using abortion for contraception is absurd in my opinion. - +1 y
expressing your opinion doesn’t mean you should judge me or attack me in any way. or even being rude with it. you can express yourself in a kind way as i did
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+1 y99.9% I'm prolife. reasons why us bc it shouldn't be a form of birth control or oh I can't afford having a child or I'm not ready blah blah. if you think your old enough to spread your legs then take the responsibility of what could happen. the the.1 % of the reason why I'm ok is if having a baby puts the woman's life at risk ok but have a medical doctor say it will and sign off on it. if you don't want a child then use birth control etc and if you don't it or what ever reason then give the child up for adoption.
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Mz to answer your question let's see um oh yea abortion is murder and adoption isn't. not a hard concept is understand.
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@Joshydavid25 exactly…. HER body. Plus many many women aren’t the ones that even want abortions. Men do too. A friend of mine was so excited and her so called “boyfriend” told her if she didn’t get an abortion he was going to push her down the steps. So while everyone looks at women as the villains no one bats an eye on WHY she may be getting an abortion.
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@adidas0169 you said it yourself “if you’re old enough to spread your legs then take the responsibility on what could happen” ok cool valid point BUT why is it only the women that need to take responsibility? Men can walk away no questions asked and be a dead beat parent and leave the women with all the responsibility. Why is that okay?
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@TT1227 Well as the old saying goes, it's not just HER body.. That's a selfish way to look at it.. It's another separate body which naturally formed as a result of the actions of two people.. Now with that being said, nobody sees the woman as the villain, on either side she is yet again the victim.. In fact the people most against abortions are women.. Although it's not like men aren't painted as villains all the time but hey that's another convo..
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Bc women are the ones pushing for abortion not the guys. so if you want to include both women and guys then it's both are responsible.
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+1 yYes. Women should absolutely be involved in deciding what they do with their bodies. It’s sad that this is a topic of debate and the amount of men think it’s fine to tell women what they can do while they are pregnant. It’s obviously not the males who are the ones being pregnant and pushing babies out of their bodies. It’s rather easy to have their own opinion when it literally doesn’t involve them beyond just fertilizing the egg.
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just from biology, you are wrong each fetus is half chromosomes from the man.
the reason this issue "is a debate" is due to the victim. this is not a law "everyone go to church or get punished" the way people wrongly responded. - +1 y
@davado88 you failed to find any error. how can you dav, be so cold hearted to human that feels pain.
2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. I have no problem with Abortion by and of itself, but there has to be limits applied, and 'Good Reasons' for an abortion to be performed, but I do not believe that abortion should be used as a primary form of birth control when women have over 30 methods of birth control available to them, fro barrier methods like the diaphragm small, dome-shaped device or a cervical cap, all the way through to long term hormone implants. And of course guys should use condoms even if a woman is on birth control.
And I do not believe in the current vogue of 'full term' abortion which has been promoted in the US by certain groups on the political Left, If a woman is going to carry a child to that late date that may as well carry to birth and then place the child for adoption.
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+1 yi think it should be illegal except for very narrowly defined special cases. it's your body your choice. your choice to get pregnant so you should be held accountable to the consequence of your actions cause if you are already pregnant "your body your choice" applies to the fetus and we can not assume that the fetus would choose to die.
exceptions would be rape or rare cases in which giving birth would be a major health risk for the woman, which is less than 1% of all abortions that were undertaken during it being legal.
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thanks for you opinion!
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+1 yIm for abortion in certain cases where it is incest, rape, mothers life at risk, baby will not survive. What i am not for is abortion for learning disabilities or minor disabilities that can be treated with simple surgery or abortion being used as a form of contraception, and yes i have come across some cases.
One woman here in the UK had 10 abortions.
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10 abortions? that’s a lot. but thank you for your opinion
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She used it as a form of contraception, my brothers ex girlfriend was the same. Her stance was if i get pregnant i will just get another abortion.
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that’s bad. why would they do that when you have various contraception these days?
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Exactly, it is unnecessary
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I'm the 1 in 10 women. I didn't do it as a form of contraception. I messed up on my pill, and we didn't use condoms one time. It was an honest mistake.
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@butterly248 morning pill exist
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@butterly248 I agree with the asker that the morning after pill does exist.
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I was advised not to take it
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Because I had swapped pills and my doctor said not too
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@butterly248 than you could not have sex and waited till your doctor allows you. but it’s your choice
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Okay
Abortion is questionable, so as bringing an unwanted child to this world and force him/her to be part of the foster care system, which don't really protect children as it should. Foster care has serious internal problems, worldwide, alouding child predators to infiltrate the system. We all know what come next: future adults with traumas, who could have been fully functional.
I must clarify that some parents do decide to raise their unwanted newborn, but with the time some may bill up resentment towards that child; hence: parental abuse.
So, in my opinion, abortion is the best option; the others are the most cruel. You don't just bring a child to this world, you gotta care for the child.
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would that foster claim justify after the birth? obviously not, so cannot justify for the same kid while inside.
+1 yIm pro-life. Not over the top about it like some people but I still dont believe its right. Isn't a baby a person when it comes out of the womb? The only difference is its still shaping inside. Its murder. Some cases like rape I UNDERSTAND why but I still don't SUPPORT the idea.
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and they use the excuse of rape and danger as if that justified the other 90% that aren't rape nor danger.
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@strateguy632 exactly
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@robertjo16 good answer 👍🏻
+1 yHilarious the majority of answers are from men. Typical that they have such strong feelings about an issue that doesn't involve them.
The answer is women deserve a right to choice and bodily autonomy. Consent to sex is not consent to pregnancy. Consent must be ongoing and can be revoked. Period.
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How tf do I make yours the most fucking helpful because 🔥
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@SquishyBuns2628 haha much appreciated
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How does it not involve the man? The man was involved to create it!
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@Longshanks1968 Because the moment you ejaculate, your physical involvement in the making of that baby ends. From there on out, all the physical risk falls on the woman. Her body is the one that will be going through 9 months of changes. Not you.
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So he gets no say about what happens to his child?
You're fucked up!
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@Longsharks1968, it's a sack of cells. Men ejaculate cells into tissue, towels, and sometimes unwilling persons. Where's the pro-life people then, hmm?
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That would be completely different, dumbass, and you know it. Try saying something smart for once.
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@Longshanks1968 you're damn right he gets no say when it is not his body or his health thats at risk. People forget that women can and do still doe from childbirth. If she is to risk her life, it should be her choice alone.
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@Longshanks1968 die* not doe. That was a typo. But you get my point. I advise you not to sleep with a woman who is not on the same page as you on this issue.
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Again that's completely different.
You're so stupid it hurts, I'm done with your ignorant ass. - +1 y
@Longshanks1968 damn that's crazy. How you goin debate with 2 women, people that carry the slumpnof cells for aboutn9 months with or without complications deoending on their US state or any where from. The world about their body? What's next are you fittin to debate the pope and how he gives sermans next? Oh by the way I'm not religious in anyway so go bananas on the latter.
Choose the former too, go nuts. Seems like it's your go to anyway. - +1 y
@Longshanks1968 Alright. Just make sure you are communicating your views before sleeping with anyone. The woman you are with has a right to know what she is getting into with you
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I don't need your ridiculous advice on who I should fuck, besides I hate kids and I'm cut so it doesn't matter to me
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@Longshanks1968 good on you for being proactive. I have to ask, though, why are we having this conversation? Why do you feel entitled to tell a woman what she can and can not do with her own uterus? You seem very emotionally invested in a hypothetical situation that doesn't even involve you.
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@jumpintoadstool purr sis 💅🏾 Let 👏🏾 him 👏🏾 know👏🏾
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@SquishyBuns2628 Haha thanks girlie.
The right to abortion is fundamental for liberty and freedom. Too bad nobody truly has that right especially in the USA. The concept of rights is diminishing as time goes on.
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thanks for the opinion!
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would you give the "desirable liberty and freedom" to kill after birth? no and the same kid was the one inside.
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The child is not a life until the mother decides "I am having this baby." Novody else can decide. Not the child's father not the government. Only the woman can decide.
In order for liberty to be maintained, women must have the liberty of self ownership of their bodies.
Her body creates the baby, and so she is sole owner of the functions of her body.
I am not a liberal. You will not hear the same arguments that liberals spew from me.
If you want to see my beliefs about abortion, search up Ayn Rand and abortion and you will see much more. - +1 y
to hive, you can't ignore biology the " life cycle starts at fertilization" because that is reality even before missed her period.
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Only the mother can choose what to do with the functions of her body. It doesn't matter how you define life or define what is human or how you define rights for the unborn.
Only the mother has the right to choose what she does with her body and the functions of her body.
Nobody else. There is no science that is going to change my mind. There is no religion that is going to change my mind. - +1 y
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+1 yMy right to an abortion shouldn't be governed by someone elses religious beliefs.
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yeap
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that phrase is only true on issues without a VICTIM. like eat pig "shouldn't be governed by someone elses religious beliefs." but abortion HAS a victim. the death of a human fetus needs interfere same as child hitting and wife beating...
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it's not human it's a collection of unformed cells
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the law is based on the biible. thou shall not steal etc.
so actually yes it should be.
here's a better idea- just embrace the fact you're murdering a baby and own it.
noone believes yje silly rasoning to justify abortion anyway.
so all that mattes is its legal.
and thank the jesuits for that.
they made it legal in usa through their machinations.
and as you're a protestant country it has everything to do with religion.
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the reply above was in resonse to @purplepoppy. s claim that her right to abortion shouldn't have anything to do with someones religious belief
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to @purplepoppy , content unformed, that is disinformation. from the moment of fertilization it has HUMAN chromosomes. each cell is obviously formed and reproduces. not "unformed" but yes human according to biology not even religious source.
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It's human tissue not a human being
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When the brain develops enough to think. Before that it's just an animal.
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`when the brain develops enough to think` is saying nothing? I need you to define that further. One could argue that 1 year old babiy is a complete idiot that can't think for itself and thats why its ok to kill it.
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Humans have been committing infanticide for millennia it's our natural behaviour. Only modern laws prevent it in the west.
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Under the right circumstances yes. Not everyone needs to be alive.
+1 yWomen are allowed to protect themselves from unwanted pregnancies by using protection or by being abstinent, but instead some use abortion as birth control and no that shouldn’t be allowed, except in cases of pregnancy by rape, sexual abuse/molestation or if the pregnancy is a health risk to the woman… But these women that don’t use any precautions and think they can just keep having abortion after abortion, no that shouldn’t be allowed…
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+1 yMy body my choice. As a woman I could have so many complications bringing a fetus to term. Now triple those complications because I'm African-American.
Men should have no say so on when woman want to abort a fetus. And yes its a fetus, sack of cells.23 Reply- +1 y
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@YAsQuen lol, how sway? With the US having roughly 70% being white while 30% of the population is mixed of different minorities ranging from 5% to 1%.
I have a whole ass degree and me wasting my time pulling up evidence that you won't read, ain't it. So I'll shorten it as much as possible.
Everyone, no matter their race, can have a complicated upbringing. Getting access to better food and living in a food desert (google it) affects so much. But being a minority in this case being Black and living in food desert and having disrespectfully low wages (where our white counter parts get paid more) has a lot to do with said health complications that I agree with.
I don't agree with the drugs part, hence why I talked about the rough percentage of the population. How can a minority of people do the lost drugs when we hardly get paid? The same thing can be said about food stamps as well. There's way more poor white people than black people. Why? Because of the literal population census. It's roughly 70/30.
It's not like years of medical bias and "medical tests" against Black and Brown people's bodies has anything to do complications right? I was being sarcastic because it does.
And since you mad fuckin disrespectful, I hope you step on a pointy ass lego block.
It should be allowed legally but only at medical facilities or prescribed pills for plan B.
Personally I believe it’s morally wrong when used as means for birth control. I think once there is a heart beat it’s past the time for abortion. Also I believe both parents if in the picture should have a say on the decision.
However at the same time the government Shouldn’t be able to ban it.
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100% agreed
+1 yYes, all of the first trimester for any reason what so ever. After that I don’t think so. (With the exception of the mothers life being in danger)
But I think it’s more important that we have comprehensive sex ed and wide spread access to contraceptives.
I also don’t think medical people who don’t want to preform this procedure should have to.10 Reply487 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. well I guess that is up to the woman in question what she should do with her own body. I think it is polite of her to discuss it with the father but other than that, it’s their choice no one else’s
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agreed
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but you ignore the victim. this not about what color dress so her body her choice of skirts.
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@strateguy632 no idea what u mean. This made no sense, who was talking about dresses and skirts?
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If the father is in the picture, they are on good terms etc. I agree but it is mainly down to the mother as she is gonna have to carry a baby around for 9 months 🥴😂
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to jj, i mean you ignore the victim. the fetus get killed. that is NOT a decision about skirts.
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@butterly248 well yeah absent fathers have no say
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@strateguy632 what has skirts got to do with it?
+1 yNever excusable under any circumstances. No man or woman should ever snuff a baby, no matter what motivates them to want to. No practitioner claiming to be involved in medicine should ever tarnish their profession with it. No politician should ever protect this heinous act. No grandparent should ever push their child to have one.
And any trafficker that would force their slaves to have one deserves a gory, televised public execution!
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+1 yYes in case of extreme high risk pregnancy or rape
In cases without a legit reason or they just weren't careful enough to avoid it.. I think legally yes but there should be a limit I guess...
This is a quite controversial topic lol
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okay thank for your opinion🫂
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nope it was okay i understood it
While I don't think we should use abortions like regular birth control, I do believe women should be allowed them. Banning them never stopped abortions in the past, just made them more dangerous.
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would you say that about other laws? laws don't stop murder so don't ban nor punish it.
same phrase with any crime.
"Banning them crime never stopped in the past".
+1 yIt should be legalized. The fact that is not legalized makes women go for options that put their health at risk.
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yeap
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the exact opposite, THAT greater risk to herself is her body her choice. and if abortion wasn't available SOME lives would be saved.
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@strateguy632 what do you mean by greater risk to herself?
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+1 yIn my opinion, no. Not unless the father also agrees to it and the decision is mutual. Otherwise it’s sexist because the father isn’t getting a say. I believe it to be sexist against men when the pro choicers say “my body my choice” you chose when you agreed to be bedded by a man, dumbass.
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+1 yIn case of rape, incest, disformed fetus and medical emergency then yes and the 1st 3 scenarios the abortion must take place within 6 weeks.
Abortion out of convenience should be illegal.31 Reply- +1 y
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1.7K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Abortion is advertised as a chocie but it strips a child of all choices he/she would have in life.
There are hard cases, but abortion should not be promoted. Altervatives should be.22 Reply- +1 y
yeh and banning abortion saves lives, even if only half of 60 milion get deterred.
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I am against the Abortion... However, it can be done in some exceptional situations like rape, etc..
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okay and why are tou against abortion?
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okay thanks for your opinion!
+1 yI believe in accountability, and being mature enough to handle the consequences should the unexpected happen.
With that being said, I also am tired of oaying more in taxes so that I can subsidize the lasyness, unaccountable, zero producing, no added value dudes an dudettes that can't finance themselves much less the little shits that I'll be paying for01 Reply- +1 y
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2.8K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. The embryo/fetus is a human being at an early stage of life. Life begins at conception. Roe of Roe V Wade regrets her decision to abort, read up about it, just google Roe regrets abortion or something similar. She also says she was paid to bring the case. She is overjoyed that it is overturned (in somepart I woukd image but jit all).
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+1 yI'm not a huge fan of the concept. That being said, it is not my place to judge and decide what's best for others. It should be available for those who want one, despite my misgivings.
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would you say that about a toddler "we see we can't give it proper childhood" or the excuse i copy quote "unwanted child is both the cause and victim of so much suffering" so end toddler suffering? obviously these don't justify. those are reasons for women to be abstinence like @Xoxocutekitty wrote.
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I'm not your enemy. I'm allowed to not not like it. Even though I don't, I am not advocating for anyone to not be able to get a procedure. Don't argue with me.
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to scent you said "should be available for those who want one," to that i replied test after birth. none of the excuses justify and the SAME one born was inside. abortion shouldn't be available. you should read other possible opinions.
4.5K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Morally wrong outside SA or a life or death situation for the mother. Idc if someone has an abortion it just goes against my morals and values.
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+1 yI don't think abortions are a good thing but I don't think the government should take away that right..
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that right? don't you know abortion has a human victim that feels pain?
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@strateguy632 You do know that there is an abortion with pills where it makes you miscarry and it is born dead..
I also said it isn't a good thing to do, but sometimes it is needed.. plus I don't really care for our species as a whole so why would I care about whore babies being killed? - +1 y
to ane, content pill, that reason doesn't justify most abortions at clinics.
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@strateguy632 Oh well.. it is what it is.. just like you can't stop people drinking, doing drugs and stuff and people turning transgender. You can't stop women from aborting kids.. because even when it gets banned it just becomes an underground practice that is dangerous.. I think it is better to abort than have kids adopted.. because I am from a parent where the adoption was a really bad place for my mom to grow up then in turn helped ruin my life too..
You can not protect all the children in the world so to say its better to have the babies is not the right answer... Unless you want to take responsibility of the out come of all these "not aborted children" where the parents beat them, molest them, let others molest them, adopt them to people who end up beating and molesting them because that is the world we live in. Since essentially these are unwanted children.. do you think life is all sunshine and rainbows? Plus adopted kids even if it was good life feel unwanted/unloved because they were given away so they usually go down some dark paths in life.. and people are always whining about killing babies but what do you think people in wars do, people from Canada, America, UK, Israel they kill innocent families all the time but unless it is white people dying no one cares LOL So really who cares..
Also if you had a 12 year old daughter and she was raped and got pregnant, would you still want her to have the baby even though she didn't want it?
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+1 yI'm against it.
I'm definitely for having limits and restrictions that you cannot get one far along in the process. If they are permitted they need to be as early on as possible. None of these 3rd trimester abortions.
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+1 yMost people are pro choice because they can't come to terms with the state sanctioned murder of 60 million people since 1973. Being pregnant probably isn't fun (never done it nor can I) but being destroyed by poison and scalpels is undoubtedly worse. I have no use for the Catholic Church, but you can't be a Catholic and "disagree" with things that have been rightly condemned since antiquity.
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i get your answer but i 100% agree that you shouldn’t tell me what can i believe and what does believing in God mean. especially if you’re an atheist and are trying to be smart
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I'm part of the Orthodox Church so I understand how hierarchy works too. Abortion is one of those things that is objectively wrong and you'll be excommunicated for supporting
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okay yeah i understand where you’re coming from now. thanks for the opinion though!
if i dont believe in abortion, i do i have to pay, if u want tto get one its ir business, if a female l got pregnant and no protection, let the guy pay for it, solves problem, correct. of coarse people will say what incest, well arrest the person make him or pay.
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Go for it, it's literally just a zygote early on. Life from the point of conception is a highly emotive statement that corresponds more with mysticism than an actual description of fact.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yonce again another question from last week.
am i losing mah marbles?
didn't i argue with the tween who asked this because she loves jesus?
kill all the babies. Rip their limbs off whilst alive. Cut their heads off
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actually society DOES interfere for a victim. i can't say "mind your own business" if i am domestic violence. which obviously i don't do just for contrast.
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1.4K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. My body, my right, so fuck off those who don't like it.
10 ReplyIts pretty complicated... But i love Bill Burr :)
https://www.youtube.com/embed/5YB-24gc8Hw20 Reply12.2K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. The Christian inmates strongly opposes most but not all abortions. The libertarian in me says leave the laws regarding abortion to the several states and shut the hell up.
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thank u for opinion and don’t try to shut me down.
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+1 yI view it this way. I wouldn't like someone telling me what to do with my body so why should I have a say with what a woman does with hers.
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because the issue is the VICTIM not about mother body. that claim "her body" is just disinformation.
3.3K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Abortion is a choice that a woman will need live with for the rest of her life.
Rather she has an abortion or gives birth!
I believe that it is her choice, but I shouldn’t have to finance an unknown woman’s choice through tax dollars.01 Reply- +1 y
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Anonymous(25-29)+1 yI’m against it for several reasons but I do not think it can be policed by the government in such a way where they’re banning access
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+1 yNo she shouldn't be allowed unless for harsh reasons...
Also a married woman ain't allowed to have an abortion without her husband's agreement!
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+1 yyes. just a simple yes.
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+1 yWomen should only be allowed to abort if men also have the option of getting a financial abortion.
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i don’t undestand that competely
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To quote Dave Chapelle " if she ca kill it, he can sure as hell abandon it"
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@overthinkergirl it means that a man has the option to waive all parental rights and responsibilities including child support. If a woman can opt-out of these responsibilities a man should be able to as well.
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okay then i agree with that and thank u for explaining
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which men don't so women same?
Anonymous(36-45)+1 yI have kind of mixed opinion, What do you think about it?
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i think that women should be allowed to do it. especially if they’ve being raped or if the pregnancy is dangerous for mom’s or child’s life
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to @overthinkergirl , content danger, that same reason excludes most abortion when no danger to mother.
Opinion Owner+1 ySame opinion! But I kind of hate it when they abort it without a good reason
To me women shouldn't get pregnant if they don't even want to have the kid in the first place
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Umm then the man needs to not have sex with the woman without consent to having the kid in the first place.
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602 opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. A woman's salvation means nothing to a woman. So who really cares?
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11.6K opinions shared on Society & Politics topic. Nobody should be allowed to commit murder. Abortion is murder.
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+1 yShould a woman be allowed to murder an innocent person?
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just answer the question and don’t ask back
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my answer is already implied
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so you don’t support abortion?
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Of course I’m pro life
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okay thank for your answer!
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Please follow me, I need to talk to you
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The Catholic faith is not a supermarket where you get what you want, you either accept it completely or leave the church
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nope i don’t agree. believing in God means different things to different people. and you’re not a God so u’re not gonna tell me what Catholic faith is
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Apparently you don't know the church's act of faith: I firmly believe that there is one God, in three really distinct persons, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. I believe that the Son of God became man, suffered and died on the cross to save us and on the third day he rose again. I believe in everything else that the Holy Catholic Church believes and teaches, because God, the infallible Truth, has revealed it. In this belief I want to live and die.
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i also believe in all of these things. but a don’t support that church doesn’t exept homosexual people or abortion for example
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Which part of “I believe in everything else that the Holy Catholic Church believes and teaches” did you not understand?
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i understood everything and thank you for affection. i know that we’re just debating but im starting to think that tou’re tryna force me to think what u think. im not forcing u to support abortion in most ways so u could be more rescpectful
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I'm not trying to force anything, I'm warning you that if you don't believe in everything the Holy Church teaches, you are one step away from leaving the Church's communion.
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don’t threaten me cuz i can block you quickly. you’re not gonna talk to me like that cuz i believe in God bruh how can you not understand that. because of people like u who are behaving like this and being too conservative is procent of people believing and being catholic soaring as u may know
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Have you ever heard of fraternal correction? yeah, I'm doing that... and as for blocking me, I don't care
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me neither so goodbye
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