Should you be jailed if you refuse to give your kidney to transplantation and the person that needed that kidney dies? No? Because you have bodily autonomy right? Well so does she
Of course not. Or are you willing to adopt all the babies you wish women should be forced to have? Unless your answer yes, you have no grounds to want to make decisions on behalf of others.
Until you men feel like being a woman. No need to talk much about this. Because if guys say yes to this, for me he is not wise enough to at least answer "Depends on the case". Be wise. Be wise. Be objective. Have emphaty. Study the case first at least.
I think that the abortion doctors should be put in prison, because they know 100% that they're murdering a child. A lot of women who get abortions don't realize that their child is alive and getting an abortion is murder, so I think for the women who do get an abortion they should be informed on what they did. The emotional scarring would be enough punishment for them. The women who do know that abortion is murder, and get one anyway should be jailed for murder
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Is this what anti-abortionists are looking to happen? Every woman who has an abortion should be executed immediately, along with the doctors and nurse, and the person who was going to drive her home. This includes cab drivers and Uber drivers. As her parents probably had some influence on her decision, by how they brought her up, to be safe, they should be executed too. And her sibling should be executed as well, as her influence may have infected them. And for little 11 year old girls who have been raped and are pregnant? They should be tortured and thoroughly mistreated, so they aren't tempted to think about an abortion. Or, we could say, you have no business telling a woman what to do with her body. It's interesting to me, to notice how many good Republican southerners voted for a pedophile, but then want to control the lives and bodies of teenage girls people like him tend to get pregnant.
Okay you should go to jail too because you jerk off everyday and kill human babies every single day. You child murderer. SMH seem how stupid you sound?
It's not a unique human being until egg and sperm unite to become a zygote. A fertilized egg, with unique DNA. Stop deliberately failing biology forever to defend child sacrifice.
@Guardian45 : A newborn baby is dependent on its mother to survive. And most of you Tide zombies are dependent on your mom's basement to live in. So should you be "aborted" too? It's asinine to assume that dependency or not is the measure of value. That is literally Nazi philosophy!
If I was aborted I wouldn't have a opinion would I? Ur dumb as hell it takes two to make a baby but men like u love to ignore that and think u should be able to tell women what to do with their bodies.
If it takes two to make a baby, why does it only take one to have the decision to kill said baby? And what if she wants it, and no one else in the family will, and she is made to go through with it for her own safety? Your types only care about one thing: dead children. You love death. When a girl chooses life, you threaten her for being "too dumb to know what she's supposed to want."
You are literally like your father, the Nazi philosopher Martin Heidegger.
What the hell you mean if she chooses to keep the baby that's her choice no one says anything. Pro lifers like you are judgmental as hell whether or not a woman keeps her baby or abort it.
And in New York, the definition of "abortion" now means up to a week (read: a month) after birth! In other words, full-on infanticide.
It's pure ageism. And to say that dependency is the measure of a life's value is ableism. There is a way that seems right to a demonic fool. But it always worships and leads to death.
The body inside your body is not your body. It has different thoughts, different DNA, and a different purpose for living. Stop repeating the genocidal maniac and super racist talking points of Nazi sympathizer Margaret Sanger. You Canadians literally helped us fight a war to purge the world of this ideological FILTH, only to BECOME the filth yourselves?
Murder is murder. The judgement is already made by nature and nature's God. We're simply HONORING the ruling that has ALREADY BEEN RULED! You, however, are trying to win a court case that you ALREADY LOST!
Your ideological follower. The man whose teachings you are a disciple of. Did no one teach you poetic syntax, or the meaning of a metaphorical father, in school? Schools are failing up there as well as down here. Sad.
The ruling is universal. And in the 4th spatial dimension. The W axis. All of space, all of time. Not beholden to the laws of any one country. THAT, is where you already lost. Any country whose laws run afoul of those laws, forfeit the validity of their national laws.
@ObscureBeyond. A newborn baby is not attached to it's mother, you moron! And you Trump zombies are the ones living in your mom's basement smoking crack. So don't talk through your ass about things you know nothing about. It's asinine to assume that you have a shred of intelligence. And at least I have a philosophy that values a mother's life!
@Guardian45 It doesn't matter what it needs to survive. The matter is that if its a living being or not. If you don't consider it a living being go ahead.
No. A unwanted baby could ruin a whole family's life in an instant not to mention the baby could be hated by even their parents of all people, that is not a life I would ever want someone to have... In a perfect world birth control would work 100% of the times, and everyone would use it if they don't want a baby... But unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world.
Why is this even a topic we should discuss. No one should have a right to tells us what to do with our bodies. I know people always use rape as an example, but that is the only thing I would tolerate if you wanted an abortion. I’m not for abortion it can destroy your body mentally and physically, but I’m gonna sit around and let someone take me to jail because I didn’t want a baby if I was raped by someone
The body inside your body is not your body. And if we don't snuff out the evil and demonic practice of murdering children inside the womb, then those wishing to harvest them for adenochrome after they're born will keep moving the goalposts, all the way to age 11!
Hmmm well this is a reasonable opinion, if it is indeed rape, then that is currently the only situation I could possibly justify it in, but honestly, the more I look at it, the more it's still murder, and murder is one of the only things worse than rape.
"100% of unplanned pregnancies are caused by men."
Only a retarded feminist would say something like this ^^ because it plays right into the victim narrative of modern feminism. The only time it's true is in a rape scenario.
Seriously, is it any wonder to anyone why men hate feminists?
Why is that? Because applying the same concept to both genders is somehow gender exclusive? Advocating the removal of a woman’s reproductive rights or punishment of it, should also be applied to men. It’s only fair.
the problem is that you people don't consider a fetus to be a human being. if you believed you were talking about a human life then there would be no debate over this. you're talking about what a man can potentially do to a woman's body. should he be punished for that? if it were the man who carried the child yes he should have been punished too. if a murder takes place they only arrest the person who's committed it not the gun shop owner who's sold them the gun. that's all the guy is here
@ThisIsMyOpinion i respect that. i'm not infallible. but sometimes i get the feeling people would like to argue rather than discuss so i don't take it seriously and this was just me not taking it seriously
You do realize abortion is legal? And that the United Nations considers sole bodily governance to be a basic human right? So yes I have the right to abort a fetus, both in the abstracts and literally, like it or not. I don’t care if you disagree.
Except they don’t stop. It’s my entire right to do so, like it or not. You don’t have to agree. Plus you lose any moral high ground when you say people should be killed for doing what they have the right to do. Lol
An infant refers just to any very young human lol.
If I get my way, there won’t be any place for your kind to hide; a quick strike by the United States military would render all the NATO armed forces impotent.
No it doesn’t lol babies are born, children are born. An unborn is called a fetus, an embryo or a zygote. Nothing more. You would know this if you had anything meaningful to contribute. But you don’t lol so until then, bye bye kid.
Nowhere in the English language does it say that a fetus/embryo/zygote is a child. It’s a lump of cells with human dna. It’s a parasitic protohuman. Nothing of any import. Especially not to me.
Every human being is a lump of cells. Fuck, every multicellular organism is a lump of cells; that’s a meaningless red herring. Even Webster’s dictionary defines a child as an “unborn or recently born person”.
You gave it permission when you let a man cum in your vagina.
Okay, well, Websters’ is the one that matters. And you’re arguing semantics; we know the unborn are humans. Whether you want to call it infanticide or just regular old kinslaying is irreverent.
Nope. I gave HIM permission to cum inside. I didn’t give a fetus permission to be there. If I did, I wouldn’t be getting an abortion. Logic, try it. Not to me it doesn’t. And so are you lol I never said they weren’t human. I said they don’t matter to me and don’t have the right to occupy my body.
Are you saying you don’t understand cause and effect lmao? Sex evolved for the purpose of procreation; if you consented to sex, then you consented to procreation.
Amazing that you people claim to be “equal”; you’re vermin far beneath me.
Lmao you can’t think can you? I’ll put it simply. When you go camping, you consent to experience nature. But that doesn’t mean you consent to being eaten by bears. Just because I wanted sex, doesn’t mean I wanted pregnancy. It’s basic logic. Are you incapable of understanding, or is it you are only capable of casuistry and adhominem attacks?
Of course I’m capable of understanding; I understand that the purpose of sex is procreation. If you consent to sex, then you’re consenting to its sole purpose. The sole purpose of walking outside isn’t to be mauled by bears.
I’m smarter than you, so don’t try to hurl insults.
I consented to having sex. To having pleasure. I didn’t consent to getting pregnant. That’s a simple concept. I understand the biological purpose of sex, but that’s not my purpose.
You’re right finally! It isn’t to get mauled. But that follows your logic. You consent to an action and somehow that means you consent to all the possible outcomes.
You didn’t know that infanticide had to deal with infants lol give me a break.
You don’t get to decide on what the purpose of an action is lmao. Nature has and did. If you want sexual pleasure without consenting to pregnancy, then masturbate. You don’t get to “decide” on the purpose of an activity developed through millions of years of evolution any more than I get to “decide” that shooting someone between the eyes won’t kill them.
No, that doesn’t follow from my logic; I already explained way.
I do actually. I’m the one doing it. The nature of something and the purpose you assign it are two different things.
There’s a difference between sex for pleasure, and shooting someone.
It does. You said consenting to sex means in also consented to pregnancy. That follows the same logic as going camping and consenting to a bear attack.
Absolutely not. You cannot consent to only one aspect of an action—not more than you can consent to living in the United States but not to paying taxes. When you have sex, you have consented to allowing sperm enter your body; you have thus consented to fertilization of one of your egg cells, and thus, the creation of another human being inside you. Unless you were raped, you consented to this conception; either you’re being purposefully obtuse, or you don’t yet understand sex causes pregnancy.
No, again, the purpose of camping isn’t to be attacked by bears. The better example would be a duel; when you enter a duel, you are consenting to the purpose of the encounter: defeating or being defeated by your opponent with the possibility of death.
No, you’re incorrect. If I consented to this as you say, I wouldn’t get an abortion. That would be pointless and contrary to the intent of wanting it fertilized.
That’s not how it works lmao try logic then come talk to me. So far all you have is an empty sack made of nonsense.
I understand, yes; you want to have your cake and eat it, too. You want to pleasant side effects of an action without any of the drawbacks; you want the rights without the responsibilities. You want the pleasure of sex without the duty that comes with not murdering your own blood and flushing them out of your uterus. So what? Plenty of inferior people want good stuff without the bad stuff that comes with it. You’re nothing new
Should men have to pay child support then if the women wants to keep the baby? What if he didn’t want or wants to raise a kid physically and financially?
@alex_x988 exactly anything with a beating heart is alive, just because it’s inside you or the kid is handicap doesn’t mean it’s ok to kill it. Dead people and non living objects don’t have heartbeats. Try safe sex, there’s numerous advancements so couples can engage without pregnancy but it’s the risk you take.
Should men have to pay child support then if the women wants to keep the baby? What if he didn’t want or wants to raise a kid physically and financially?
I know but there’s no script, I was asking a question sort of related to it. Most women say it takes two then it doesn’t. I just love fake feminist hypocrisy. I know you from other post and your way smarter than most people in here. We have a difference of opinion but I love how much you keep proving good points politically
Well thanks for acknowledging that, if im correct i think i remember you now if we’ve ever talked politics or vaccine related things., then on this we can agree to disagree. If u want an opinion on that then yes the man should pay if decided. Anything with children is ultimatly up to the person whose carrying it, regardless if it took two people to make. Thats just my opinion. And no i am not a feminist but i may be more sided with them on this debate. Im sure if you were a woman youd feel the same
I hate when people hate and talk crap about my momma. My momma is dying with cancer 4th stage so she has no right to do that, nor does that other woman.
@Hurdleez-Swampede you're one sick fuck to tell Kas19 that she should get raped and killed. First you told me you're going to get me killed and hacked and now you come here and insult other women. Stop being a little prick.
@PeppermintQueen So you're sick for talking crap about my mom. I am a serious natured person. I don't joke around. I can go around telling people whatever. I have free will. Free will can be used for good or evil.
@Hurleez-Swampede I never spoke crap about your mom. You are a psychopath actually. I've seen you attack 2 girls already. And I free will to speak the truth as well, and when I see an asshole I call him out. Stop crying on this site and go to bed.
Yes because killing outside of self defense is murder. A baby is defenseless and no threat to anybidy so killing one is murder. And for any woman who wants to argue about "my body my choice", no it is not. Your choice was whether or not to have sex. This is about the unborn baby who doesn't have a choice, not you.
No, but in a tragically related query: Are breathtakingly stupid questions purely designed to be fake Internet clickbait controversy, breathtakingly stupid questions purely designed to be fake Internet clickbait controversy?
Making it a crime to have an abortion is basically like telling someone it’s a crime to think a certain thought. You can’t control peoples thoughts and you can’t control what someone does with their body.
I’m pro-life, but I don’t think women should be sent to prison or jails because they got an abortion. Honestly, I’m content with not giving these women a cent of taxpayer’s money, my money, to finance killing their child, unless it’s for reasons such as the risk of lose of life, incest, or rape.
Not without looking into the circumstances on a case by case basis. I mean.. (most) first world countries have left behind primitive ways like keeping basic things like the right to vote/have a job from women.
Think of how backwards that would be if women started getting jailed every time they got an abortion- regardless of whether the pregnancy was the result of rape/less than favourable circumstances where the woman is punished and the male perpetrator walks free?
Okay. Also, I don’t see the point of jailing any woman for abortion. Last time I checked, jail is mostly used in cases where the individual poses a serious threat to society. Either that, or for rehabilitative purposes.
The only thing achieved by jailing women for abortion would be propagating patriarchal beliefs and absolute control over women, tbqh.
Time for a litmus test my simian friend. If you pass, then we'll refer you as a sapian. 1). If a woman was diagnosed with a heart condition, while she was pregnant and the doctor's told her that her and the unborn child would most likely die before the baby had become viable for an incubator. If I was the husband, I wouldn't hesitate to save my wife. How about you? Think really hard.
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Should you be jailed if you refuse to give your kidney to transplantation and the person that needed that kidney dies? No? Because you have bodily autonomy right? Well so does she
Of course not. Or are you willing to adopt all the babies you wish women should be forced to have? Unless your answer yes, you have no grounds to want to make decisions on behalf of others.
Of course no.
Until you men feel like being a woman. No need to talk much about this.
Because if guys say yes to this, for me he is not wise enough to at least answer "Depends on the case". Be wise. Be wise. Be objective. Have emphaty.
Study the case first at least.
by the way im not a feminist.
I think that the abortion doctors should be put in prison, because they know 100% that they're murdering a child. A lot of women who get abortions don't realize that their child is alive and getting an abortion is murder, so I think for the women who do get an abortion they should be informed on what they did. The emotional scarring would be enough punishment for them. The women who do know that abortion is murder, and get one anyway should be jailed for murder
Is this what anti-abortionists are looking to happen? Every woman who has an abortion should be executed immediately, along with the doctors and nurse, and the person who was going to drive her home. This includes cab drivers and Uber drivers. As her parents probably had some influence on her decision, by how they brought her up, to be safe, they should be executed too. And her sibling should be executed as well, as her influence may have infected them. And for little 11 year old girls who have been raped and are pregnant? They should be tortured and thoroughly mistreated, so they aren't tempted to think about an abortion. Or, we could say, you have no business telling a woman what to do with her body. It's interesting to me, to notice how many good Republican southerners voted for a pedophile, but then want to control the lives and bodies of teenage girls people like him tend to get pregnant.
Okay you should go to jail too because you jerk off everyday and kill human babies every single day. You child murderer. SMH seem how stupid you sound?
It's not a unique human being until egg and sperm unite to become a zygote. A fertilized egg, with unique DNA. Stop deliberately failing biology forever to defend child sacrifice.
If the fertilized egg can survive without the mother then its alive. Only then!
@Guardian45 : A newborn baby is dependent on its mother to survive. And most of you Tide zombies are dependent on your mom's basement to live in. So should you be "aborted" too? It's asinine to assume that dependency or not is the measure of value. That is literally Nazi philosophy!
If I was aborted I wouldn't have a opinion would I? Ur dumb as hell it takes two to make a baby but men like u love to ignore that and think u should be able to tell women what to do with their bodies.
If it takes two to make a baby, why does it only take one to have the decision to kill said baby? And what if she wants it, and no one else in the family will, and she is made to go through with it for her own safety? Your types only care about one thing: dead children. You love death. When a girl chooses life, you threaten her for being "too dumb to know what she's supposed to want."
You are literally like your father, the Nazi philosopher Martin Heidegger.
What the hell you mean if she chooses to keep the baby that's her choice no one says anything. Pro lifers like you are judgmental as hell whether or not a woman keeps her baby or abort it.
And in New York, the definition of "abortion" now means up to a week (read: a month) after birth! In other words, full-on infanticide.
It's pure ageism. And to say that dependency is the measure of a life's value is ableism. There is a way that seems right to a demonic fool. But it always worships and leads to death.
Dude stop doing crack thanks u literally just say my dad was some random ass dude lol u need help 😂🤣
The body inside your body is not your body. It has different thoughts, different DNA, and a different purpose for living. Stop repeating the genocidal maniac and super racist talking points of Nazi sympathizer Margaret Sanger. You Canadians literally helped us fight a war to purge the world of this ideological FILTH, only to BECOME the filth yourselves?
Dude ur nuts and also it's slander to call people nazis u better watch it dumbass.
Proof is in the talking points and literature.
Ur messages prove ur a twerker that got access to a computer.
Murder is murder. The judgement is already made by nature and nature's God. We're simply HONORING the ruling that has ALREADY BEEN RULED! You, however, are trying to win a court case that you ALREADY LOST!
Lol in Canada abortion boy I didn't lose shit see u just proving my point ur on crack.
Your ideological follower. The man whose teachings you are a disciple of. Did no one teach you poetic syntax, or the meaning of a metaphorical father, in school? Schools are failing up there as well as down here. Sad.
Coming from a guy who talks nonsense a typical moron who thinks he smarter then he is pathetic.
The ruling is universal. And in the 4th spatial dimension. The W axis. All of space, all of time. Not beholden to the laws of any one country. THAT, is where you already lost. Any country whose laws run afoul of those laws, forfeit the validity of their national laws.
You can begin building a case for your own superior sophistication, by learning to take punctuation a tad bit more seriously.
Yeah I just block u I don't care to learn moron basics 101 thanks.
If my jerk had met an egg ang developed life. Then yes i should be sent to jail.
@ObscureBeyond. A newborn baby is not attached to it's mother, you moron! And you Trump zombies are the ones living in your mom's basement smoking crack. So don't talk through your ass about things you know nothing about. It's asinine to assume that you have a shred of intelligence. And at least I have a philosophy that values a mother's life!
@Guardian45 It doesn't matter what it needs to survive. The matter is that if its a living being or not. If you don't consider it a living being go ahead.
@Raghav_Singh liberals will slaughter each other regardless
You're actually the one that sounds stupid. Did you fail sex education?
A baby is the result of an egg and sperm coming TOGETHER.
Getting rid of an egg or sperm before they get a chance to meet and create a life isn't the same as killing the life after it's been created lol tf?
Oh fuck off u still killing sperm when u masturbate y'all are hypocritical and dumb as hell.
No. A unwanted baby could ruin a whole family's life in an instant not to mention the baby could be hated by even their parents of all people, that is not a life I would ever want someone to have... In a perfect world birth control would work 100% of the times, and everyone would use it if they don't want a baby... But unfortunately we don't live in a perfect world.
No my body my choice period and a fetus life is not kore valuable than my life and body gets to decide that for me :).
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Why is this even a topic we should discuss. No one should have a right to tells us what to do with our bodies. I know people always use rape as an example, but that is the only thing I would tolerate if you wanted an abortion. I’m not for abortion it can destroy your body mentally and physically, but I’m gonna sit around and let someone take me to jail because I didn’t want a baby if I was raped by someone
The body inside your body is not your body. And if we don't snuff out the evil and demonic practice of murdering children inside the womb, then those wishing to harvest them for adenochrome after they're born will keep moving the goalposts, all the way to age 11!
It's already happening! #EndTheAdenochromeRacket #WhateverItTakes #AvengeTheFallen
Hmmm well this is a reasonable opinion, if it is indeed rape, then that is currently the only situation I could possibly justify it in, but honestly, the more I look at it, the more it's still murder, and murder is one of the only things worse than rape.
"100% of unplanned pregnancies are caused by men."
Only a retarded feminist would say something like this ^^ because it plays right into the victim narrative of modern feminism. The only time it's true is in a rape scenario.
Seriously, is it any wonder to anyone why men hate feminists?
It's 50%. Both are at fault. Not counting rapes and similar cases.
@_Jay_ You are of course correct. You must not be a feminist.
Nope. If that’s the case, men should be castrated for getting her pregnant. Take away my rights to my body and we take yours.
typical female logic
Why is that? Because applying the same concept to both genders is somehow gender exclusive?
Advocating the removal of a woman’s reproductive rights or punishment of it, should also be applied to men. It’s only fair.
the problem is that you people don't consider a fetus to be a human being. if you believed you were talking about a human life then there would be no debate over this. you're talking about what a man can potentially do to a woman's body. should he be punished for that? if it were the man who carried the child yes he should have been punished too. if a murder takes place they only arrest the person who's committed it not the gun shop owner who's sold them the gun. that's all the guy is here
I know it’s a human being, I just don’t care. Nobody has control over my body but me. Nobody has the right to occupy my body without my permission.
That’s a stupid and false comparison. They aren’t remotely the same.
If i get punished for doing what I have the right to do, then you should receive the same. It’s fair.
i'm sorry i got you worked up. apparently you're really hormonal right now
@morrowlow So a women rightly shows anger at the idea of losing bodily autonomy and your response is that she's just hormonal? Fuck off
@Inexpensivefurniture you fuck off! Agape93 is a "STRONG", "INDEPENDENT" woman and she doesn't need your dumb ass to defend her
@morrowlow he is not protecting her. He is just stating what he believes in. And honestly I am with him.
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If I ever have to disagree with you I will. But ya you have the right to chose on this.
@ThisIsMyOpinion i respect that. i'm not infallible. but sometimes i get the feeling people would like to argue rather than discuss so i don't take it seriously and this was just me not taking it seriously
I was actually talking to her xD not the first time we meet in a discussion.
You don’t have the right to kill your unborn children.
You do realize abortion is legal? And that the United Nations considers sole bodily governance to be a basic human right?
So yes I have the right to abort a fetus, both in the abstracts and literally, like it or not. I don’t care if you disagree.
>muh legality
Your rights stopped when you voluntarily conceived a human inside you. As far as I’m concerned, if you abort, you should be executed.
Except they don’t stop. It’s my entire right to do so, like it or not. You don’t have to agree. Plus you lose any moral high ground when you say people should be killed for doing what they have the right to do. Lol
>moral high ground
Lol yes, you should be executed for infanticide. It’s a crime that cries out to heaven for vengeance and should be dealt with without mercy.
You better hope the right never takes power again.
You do realize that infanticide requires the killing of INFANTS? Infants are already born lol
Lol I’m 37 miles from the border to Canada. I have a passport. Get in power and I bounce.
An infant refers just to any very young human lol.
If I get my way, there won’t be any place for your kind to hide; a quick strike by the United States military would render all the NATO armed forces impotent.
in·fant
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a very young child or baby.
Hence it is born.
I don’t give a shit what you would do if you had your way. Lol
“A very young child or baby”
Yeah, which includes the unborn lol
No it doesn’t lol babies are born, children are born. An unborn is called a fetus, an embryo or a zygote. Nothing more. You would know this if you had anything meaningful to contribute. But you don’t lol so until then, bye bye kid.
Nowhere in the English language is it said that humans must be born to be considered “children”.
Nowhere in the English language does it say that a fetus/embryo/zygote is a child. It’s a lump of cells with human dna. It’s a parasitic protohuman. Nothing of any import. Especially not to me.
@TheSpartan nowhere says the opposite also
Every human being is a lump of cells. Fuck, every multicellular organism is a lump of cells; that’s a meaningless red herring. Even Webster’s dictionary defines a child as an “unborn or recently born person”.
Dictionary. com says it’s
a person between birth and full growth; a boy or girl
And like any lump of cells, it has no right to occupy my body without my permission
You gave it permission when you let a man cum in your vagina.
Okay, well, Websters’ is the one that matters. And you’re arguing semantics; we know the unborn are humans. Whether you want to call it infanticide or just regular old kinslaying is irreverent.
If you’d like to, we’ll call it filicide. it doesn’t change much.
Nope. I gave HIM permission to cum inside. I didn’t give a fetus permission to be there. If I did, I wouldn’t be getting an abortion. Logic, try it.
Not to me it doesn’t. And so are you lol I never said they weren’t human. I said they don’t matter to me and don’t have the right to occupy my body.
Are you saying you don’t understand cause and effect lmao? Sex evolved for the purpose of procreation; if you consented to sex, then you consented to procreation.
Amazing that you people claim to be “equal”; you’re vermin far beneath me.
Lmao you can’t think can you? I’ll put it simply.
When you go camping, you consent to experience nature. But that doesn’t mean you consent to being eaten by bears.
Just because I wanted sex, doesn’t mean I wanted pregnancy. It’s basic logic. Are you incapable of understanding, or is it you are only capable of casuistry and adhominem attacks?
Of course I’m capable of understanding; I understand that the purpose of sex is procreation. If you consent to sex, then you’re consenting to its sole purpose. The sole purpose of walking outside isn’t to be mauled by bears.
I’m smarter than you, so don’t try to hurl insults.
I consented to having sex. To having pleasure. I didn’t consent to getting pregnant. That’s a simple concept. I understand the biological purpose of sex, but that’s not my purpose.
You’re right finally! It isn’t to get mauled. But that follows your logic. You consent to an action and somehow that means you consent to all the possible outcomes.
You didn’t know that infanticide had to deal with infants lol give me a break.
You don’t get to decide on what the purpose of an action is lmao. Nature has and did. If you want sexual pleasure without consenting to pregnancy, then masturbate. You don’t get to “decide” on the purpose of an activity developed through millions of years of evolution any more than I get to “decide” that shooting someone between the eyes won’t kill them.
No, that doesn’t follow from my logic; I already explained way.
I do actually. I’m the one doing it. The nature of something and the purpose you assign it are two different things.
There’s a difference between sex for pleasure, and shooting someone.
It does. You said consenting to sex means in also consented to pregnancy. That follows the same logic as going camping and consenting to a bear attack.
Absolutely not. You cannot consent to only one aspect of an action—not more than you can consent to living in the United States but not to paying taxes. When you have sex, you have consented to allowing sperm enter your body; you have thus consented to fertilization of one of your egg cells, and thus, the creation of another human being inside you. Unless you were raped, you consented to this conception; either you’re being purposefully obtuse, or you don’t yet understand sex causes pregnancy.
No, again, the purpose of camping isn’t to be attacked by bears. The better example would be a duel; when you enter a duel, you are consenting to the purpose of the encounter: defeating or being defeated by your opponent with the possibility of death.
No, you’re incorrect. If I consented to this as you say, I wouldn’t get an abortion. That would be pointless and contrary to the intent of wanting it fertilized.
That’s not how it works lmao try logic then come talk to me. So far all you have is an empty sack made of nonsense.
No, you’re not understanding cause and effect.
I understand, yes; you want to have your cake and eat it, too. You want to pleasant side effects of an action without any of the drawbacks; you want the rights without the responsibilities. You want the pleasure of sex without the duty that comes with not murdering your own blood and flushing them out of your uterus. So what? Plenty of inferior people want good stuff without the bad stuff that comes with it. You’re nothing new
Just like that, you’re blocked. Can’t even follow directions :)
Lmao this is stupid af😂
No one will get jailed. Anyone can abort a baby if they damn well please.
Guys need to back off with this unless you're going to carry that thing for 9 damn months, then stfu!
I think this is the rare occasion I agree with you.
Cool no idea who u even are. Good for you though😘👍
Should men have to pay child support then if the women wants to keep the baby? What if he didn’t want or wants to raise a kid physically and financially?
@alex_x988 exactly anything with a beating heart is alive, just because it’s inside you or the kid is handicap doesn’t mean it’s ok to kill it. Dead people and non living objects don’t have heartbeats. Try safe sex, there’s numerous advancements so couples can engage without pregnancy but it’s the risk you take.
Try not commenting on my post if y'all want to have this homo heart to heart. K thanks👍✌️
Could you at least answer this
Should men have to pay child support then if the women wants to keep the baby? What if he didn’t want or wants to raise a kid physically and financially?
Did you not read my post,? I dont want children!.
I could care less what people do and the descisions that they make if they have them. Thats not what the question was about
I know but there’s no script, I was asking a question sort of related to it. Most women say it takes two then it doesn’t. I just love fake feminist hypocrisy. I know you from other post and your way smarter than most people in here. We have a difference of opinion but I love how much you keep proving good points politically
Well thanks for acknowledging that, if im correct i think i remember you now if we’ve ever talked politics or vaccine related things., then on this we can agree to disagree. If u want an opinion on that then yes the man should pay if decided. Anything with children is ultimatly up to the person whose carrying it, regardless if it took two people to make. Thats just my opinion. And no i am not a feminist but i may be more sided with them on this debate. Im sure if you were a woman youd feel the same
@Kas19
You can't block me. I can evade all blocks.
@Kas19
You know it's stupid to block people when it puts your account in jeopardy?
@Kas19
Quit talking about my momma then.
@ThisIsMYOpinion
She shouldn't talk crap about people's momma.
@Kas19
Quit talking about my mom. I know you see this. You need therapy because you hate my mom.
@Kas19
You don't talk about my mom.
@hurdleez-swampede do not comment negativity on my posts at other people!.
@SexyAshh
Fine then.
I hate when people hate and talk crap about my momma. My momma is dying with cancer 4th stage so she has no right to do that, nor does that other woman.
Then ignore it!. You dont know them! Who cares
@SexyAshh
I'm sorry. I'm a very serious person and what others think others me.
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@Hurdleez-Swampede you're one sick fuck to tell Kas19 that she should get raped and killed. First you told me you're going to get me killed and hacked and now you come here and insult other women. Stop being a little prick.
@PeppermintQueen
So you're sick for talking crap about my mom. I am a serious natured person. I don't joke around. I can go around telling people whatever. I have free will. Free will can be used for good or evil.
@Hurleez-Swampede I never spoke crap about your mom. You are a psychopath actually. I've seen you attack 2 girls already. And I free will to speak the truth as well, and when I see an asshole I call him out. Stop crying on this site and go to bed.
Yes because killing outside of self defense is murder. A baby is defenseless and no threat to anybidy so killing one is murder. And for any woman who wants to argue about "my body my choice", no it is not. Your choice was whether or not to have sex. This is about the unborn baby who doesn't have a choice, not you.
No, but in a tragically related query: Are breathtakingly stupid questions purely designed to be fake Internet clickbait controversy, breathtakingly stupid questions purely designed to be fake Internet clickbait controversy?
Different answer this time.
Making it a crime to have an abortion is basically like telling someone it’s a crime to think a certain thought. You can’t control peoples thoughts and you can’t control what someone does with their body.
I’m pro-life, but I don’t think women should be sent to prison or jails because they got an abortion. Honestly, I’m content with not giving these women a cent of taxpayer’s money, my money, to finance killing their child, unless it’s for reasons such as the risk of lose of life, incest, or rape.
Not without looking into the circumstances on a case by case basis. I mean.. (most) first world countries have left behind primitive ways like keeping basic things like the right to vote/have a job from women.
Think of how backwards that would be if women started getting jailed every time they got an abortion- regardless of whether the pregnancy was the result of rape/less than favourable circumstances where the woman is punished and the male perpetrator walks free?
They wouldn't get abortions
Okay.
Also, I don’t see the point of jailing any woman for abortion. Last time I checked, jail is mostly used in cases where the individual poses a serious threat to society. Either that, or for rehabilitative purposes.
The only thing achieved by jailing women for abortion would be propagating patriarchal beliefs and absolute control over women, tbqh.
Anyone who thinks aborting a child is okay is a danger to society in my opinion
If thats all patrical beliefs are then they should absolutely be upheld for the good of society and women themselves.
Ok.. what about the men who helped out just as much in the fetus’ conception?
I dont think he should be able to abort it either.
Time for a litmus test my simian friend. If you pass, then we'll refer you as a sapian.
1). If a woman was diagnosed with a heart condition, while she was pregnant and the doctor's told her that her and the unborn child would most likely die before the baby had become viable for an incubator. If I was the husband, I wouldn't hesitate to save my wife. How about you? Think really hard.
www.businessinsider.com/us-anti-abortion-laws-woman-give-birth-baby-without-skull-2019-6
Just gonna leave this here
No they shouldn't be jailed and I think you only made this question to piss off people.
Child murderers, rapists, pimps, traffickers yes... Shoplifters those that didn't pay their council tax no