Should Trump have waited for VP pick and chosen RFK, Jr over Vance? Is it too late? Who's the better VP? Who's better at winning Electoral College?

[DrPepper12]

Trump should drop Vance for RFK NOW

Trump regrets Vance but dropping now, optics are too bad

The RFK voters will break for Trump anyway so it's all good

Either one is a great choice, Trump wins again!

Neither was my 1st choice! I'll explain below

[llorando]

Biased poll, with no option for "RFK voters will not vote for Trump". As a Kennedy supporter, Trump will never get my vote, and Kennedy lost all current and future support, he should have just suspended his campaign and reamained neutral. Trump's campaign actually did reach out to Kennedy a couple of times about being VP, but turned the offer down. Kennedy did reach out to Harris first, but she was a no show. Kennedy dropping out and supporting Trump (I do not support), this is on Democrats, they forced him out of the race through all these lawsuits in multiple different states to keep him off the ballot, the lawsuits just took a tool both physically and financially. 2024 primary votes, will be the last votes Democrats (Republicans won't get my vote either) get from me, I cannot in good conscious, support a party who campaign's on protecting Democracy while actively filling lawsuits to keep candidates off the ballot. Wasn't just Kennedy, Democrats have sued to keep Stein and West off of ballots.

[llorando]

It was really stupid on Democrats part to sue to keep Kennedy off the ballot knowing he took more votes from Trump then Harris.

[llorando]

Thanks for MH.

[BCA6010]

Vance is a much better option for VP. Trump absolutely does not "regret" that decision, and claims otherwise are full on fake stories from the GOP swamp that hates them both; the same lunatics who tried to gaslight Nikki Haley into popularity.

Trump and RFK share very little in common from a policy standpoint outside of some very barebones concepts like the fact the US government should prioritize the US over foreign interests; things that wouldn't have even been debated a decade ago. It makes no sense whatsoever to pick someone like that as your VP, especially when Trump said months ago that his VP pick would effectively be his heir apparent to continuing the America-First conservative agenda. RFK will instead more likely be put in charge of a government agency, ideally the FDA, or something regarding national security/intelligence.

[DrPepper12]

Everyone rises to their level of incompetence in the Trump administration and it's all about names and branding - no substance

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Trump should drop Vance for RFK NOW

[blueonblack22]

Well Harris passed up Josh Shapiro just because he’s Jewish (he would of been a the best VP pick). He’s more moderate and the governor of Pennsylvania which is a crucial swing state. But Harris needs to please the pro Hamas wing of the Democratic Party. Better not pick a Jew.

But instead she went with radical leftist Tim Walz who has has made very recent remarks that “socialism is neighborly”, is warm and fuzzy towards communist China (he’s been there over 30 times), lied about his military service about “being in a war zone” yet he quit the national guard right before his scheduled deployment to Iraq (also lied about what rank he retired at) and says “in Minnesota we mind our damn business” but set up a reporting hotline during the COVID lockdown encouraging people to report anyone who was violating lockdown procedures to the authorities.

Vance is a bulldog BUT he was also once extremely critical of Trump. He’s not a younger version of Trump either. He isn’t using stolen valor about his military service. He rose above abject poverty in rural applaachia (democratic elitists absolutely don’t give two shits about rural impoverished white men).

Yes Trump would of been better off choosing Glenn Youngkin of Virginia. But what is done is done.

But I can’t wait to see JD Vance debate Tim Walz. He’s going to beat his lying commie ass senseless in that debate.

[DryGermanGuy]

„would HAVE“!

[WhiteBoyChill]

Ultimately in the end she still did piss off the Hamas people, even with Walz for several reasons

1) the DNC wouldn’t committ to an arms embargo on Israel.

2) Her husband is Jewish

3) A Palestinian that was scheduled to attend the DNC was not allowed to attend the DNC

In the end, they still didn’t even move the needle

[DrPepper12]

I would destroy your rant on Walz but it's too late n I'm tired.

[blueonblack22]

@DrPepper12 we can both look forward to the VP presidential debate.

[DrPepper12]

Agreed. Vance is weird. Walz is Mr. Rogers. It will be fun to watch

[blueonblack22]

I really wasn’t in the mood to scrap with you on this one. But Walz is THE ONE who started going around calling republicans “weird” and it’s 110% insane projection bullshit. And the media put the “weird” label on auto loop and liberals are all yapping it up. Really since when have you heard a democrat legitimately call a republican weird? It’s a “weird” word replacement for all the other nasty bullshit insults and labels liberals are fond of throwing at conservatives I guess (e. g. bigot, nazi, racist, homophobe, etc).

Right now the mainstream Democratic Party is the one who generally believes gender “is socially created”. If that wasn’t true then you wouldn’t of heard Biden repeating the bs sound byte “trans rights are human rights”. Maybe you are in the minority when it comes to disagreeing with that. But still though Democrats calling republicans “weird” is an Olympic gold medal performance in mental gymnastics insanity.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Harris passed up Josh Shapiro because he's JEWISH? What do you think Second Gentleman and potential First Gentleman Douglas Emhoff (Harris' husband) is?

[blueonblack22]

@beefcakebradybatson Josh Shapiro is the governor of Pennsylvania which is a critical swing state. He’s also much more moderate then Tim Walz (who is a far left radical). But Harris is worried about pleasing Hamas supporters in Michigan.

[beefcakebradybatson]

BS. Stop using meth, crack and coke, boyo.

[blueonblack22]

@beefcakebradybatson really convincing comeback (cough). Not surprised at all you are a liberal.

[beefcakebradybatson]

I'm a leftist because in addition to my outstanding good looks at age 71, I have a 160+ IQ, which puts me in the 99.997 percent range of intelligence, meaning about three in a hundred thousand folk have as high or higher IQ. Thus, I don't believe conspiracies based on no facts or "facts" coined by Alex Jones' or some other wackadoodle's fervid imagination, nor am I a crack- or cokehead or meth tweaker.

[WhiteBoyChill]

@beefcakebradybatson Just based on the way you converse with other people, I can tell you’re lying out of your ass with your 160+ IQ claim.

[blueonblack22]

@WhiteBoyChill I agree that his response to this was less then stellar. But ironically we agreed on another cultural issue just today.

@beefcakebradybatson I’ll got an offer for you when it comes to political postings. I won’t antagonize your political posts/comments if you promise to do the same with my political opinions. Do you think we make that deal?

[beefcakebradybatson]

Most "insults" with which progressives label righties are ONE HUNDRED PERCENT TRUE !!!

[blueonblack22]

@beefcakebradybatson well that’s disappointing. I would at 71 you would understand the Biden administration’s Down syndrome policy with crushing domestic oil/energy production and doing asinine spending like forgiving 400B in student loan debt has directly drove up hyperinflation.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Hyperinflation has been decreasing over the last year, and Biden's student loan forgiveness plan, according to "The Economist Magazine," accounted for 0.6% of US GDP. A drop in the proverbial bucket, in other words.

[DJB72]

Waiting wasn't really an option as he had no guarantee Kennedy would agree. It'd be interesting to see what he did if Vance pulled out. I think Kennedy should have been the Democrat candidate, but since the Dems are somewhere to the left of a Mao/Stalin card these days it wasn't going to happen.

I listened to Mark Driscoll's reaction to the conventions last night. He's not everyone's flavour, I get that, but one thing he said makes sense and it's what's happening in the UK at the moment: A new party, Reform UK, has taken a few seats in the British election. I think it could happen in America as well. The Democrats are sliding Left and the Republicans have adopted a lot of the ground in the political centre that the Dems have moved away from. It's left people with a more traditional, conservative persuasion with nobody they can fully support, so a new party on the Right politically in the US could potentially turn it into a three-horse race in 2028 just by taking a more traditional, conservative stand.

Kennedy could potentially get that going if he spent the next 4 years building it.

[Juxtapose]

Yeah the Democrats have gone completely bonkers. They are unsalvageable.

[DrPepper12]

Any reputable political scientists put the Dems at center right and GOP at far right.

If I was UK I'd be lib dem. Good policy

[Juxtapose]

Fuuuuuck no! The Democrats are as far left as they have ever been, they are pretty much at diet Soviet Union level now. Extremely Marxist.

[Juxtapose]

In contrast, the GOP has been as moderate as I have ever seen it and it is absorbing moderate liberals.

[beefcakebradybatson]

The Democrats are (barely) centre-rightist, or would be in any other First-World democracy. As a democratic socialist who's likely left of Bernie Sanders, my Number One Presidential choice would be Harvard professor Cornel West.

[DJB72]

The fact that obviously leftist supporters are blind to exactly how idiotically towards Full Marxist Jacket the Democrats in the USA and both Labour and the Tories are in the UK is hardly surprising these days.

Kameltoe is either spouting her Jamaican daddy's failed policies that fucked up the island or rephrasing stuff the Republican party has touted mixed with what anyone who hasn't studied Marxist philosophy would assume to be word salad. It's a joke.

There's no representation of supporters for traditional conservative values: heterosexual marriage, pro-life, and secure borders in the mainstream parties. That's why Reform UK got seats in the UK election. It's also why the number of seats was disproportionate to the number of votes they got.

[beefcakebradybatson]

@Juxtapose The REPIGLIKSCAMS are the milieu of Christo-Fascists, white supremacists, election deniers, grifters, homophobes, xenophobes and all other manner of despicables.( MUCH worse than "deplorables" Hillary Clinton's description of the REPIGLIKSCAMS overall and particularly Trumpsters.)

[beefcakebradybatson]

@Juxtapose As my boy Jamie Logsdon would say, "In your world, boyo !!!"

[Juxtapose]

@beefcakebradybatson hahaha what a bunch of nonsense.

[beefcakebradybatson]

@Juxtapose May I have whatever you're drinking or smoking, Juxtapose?

[Juxtapose]

@beefcakebradybatson you don't remember the neo-cons and how much worse they were under George Walker Bush? MAGA is a sensible movement that is moderate and can even accommodate classical liberalism more than the radical Democrats. The social liberals are so extreme it's insane.

[Avicenna]

RFK has some good stances on a few issues, but fundamentally he's still very much a leftist. The fact that the Democrats moved too far left even for him speaks volumes.

I don't think Vance was the best choice for VP and he wouldn't have been mine, but RFK Jr would not have been a fit.

[exitseven]

RFK would not be a good choice for VP. He has some good ideas and you cannot dispute his dedication to his causes. However he is still a liberal and if something should happen to Trump he might not be a good fit as president.

JD Vance is a good choice as VP.

[ManInChains]

Vance is a fine choice. He will most likely win Ohio with Vance. RFK Jr probably wouldn’t want to be VP. I would have liked to see Vivek be VP but as long as Vivek is a part of the administration that’s fine with me.

[legalboxers]

This is a disaster waiting to happen...

[Anonymous]

RFK is too old for the VP role in a trump presidency, and would regardless be more effective as the head of the FDA.

[DrPepper12]

Cogent, logical reasonable reply!!! You da man!!

[beefcakebradybatson]

Baby Bobby and J**k-Off Jimmy (Vance's first name is James): Tweedledee and TweedleDUMBER !!!

[WhiteBoyChill]

He did reach out to RFK first and RFK rejected the offer. He did everything right

[msc545]

It doesn't matter who Trump picks to be his vice president.

He is not going to be elected President.

[TheWombRaider]

Trump should have picked Harris as his VP so she couldn't run for president then fired her ass

[gorydetails]

RFK is better suited to gut the CIA or FDA.