Should the US Census use VALID VERIFIED MATH BASED stastical imputation methods to address / alter over counts or under counts in problem regions?

[DrPepper12]

FYI: Since 1790 the Census has counted RESIDENTS NOT CITIZENS! SCOTUS has upheld this dozens of times cuz 1) It is up to states to verify citizenship for voting purposes. 2) Pragmatism dictates that Congress needs to forecast public needs of ALL people.

The 2020 Census autopsy map (above) of over / undercounts. MAGA states that non citizens are over counted in Democrat areas and rural citizens in MAGA areas are under counted. The Census Bureau data unequivocably proves this is not accurate.

2020 Census did however find significant undercounts among certain demographic groups—including young children and people identifying as Black, Asian, American Indian and Alaska Native, and Latino.

From US Census Bureau:

"If the census were to leave the count for an address blank after all attempts to obtain a response failed, it would be like assigning a count of 0. This would be less accurate overall than IMPUTING a number statistically, since we often have information that people are living there.

It is important to note that count imputation for households has been used to complete the census count going back to the 1960 Census. Using this statistical method was challenged in the courts following the censuses of 1980 and 2000. Each time the courts upheld the use of count imputation.

In each of the last five censuses, count imputation made up less than half of 1 percent of the TOTAL population count.

In 2010, 0.4 percent of the population count was imputed.

We recognize that using information from these three techniques — imputation, using administrative records, and proxies — may not always match the reality of an address’s occupancy status or the characteristics of the people who live there. However, these techniques are widely used in statistics because they have been proven to be more accurate than leaving the information blank."

These stastical methods SHOULD be used for valid statistical accuracy.

These methods should NOT be used. Live, verified warm bodies ONLY.

[Anonymous]

Illegals shouldn't be counted, it should be taboo they even exist, deport, deport, deport.

You keep sucking off the billionaires, that's who wants these illegals by the way, keep undercutting low wages, and you keep fucking over the poor us citizens (mostly minorities are the poor us citizens effected).

Yet you're a "progressive". Hypocritical clowns you all are.

[DrPepper12]

So we ignore the fact that they ARE HERE for policy planning? Is that what your saying? De jure is NOT de facto.

[Opinion Owner]

The only acknowledgement should be their removal and deportation. It's simple.

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

These methods should be used

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Thanks for MHO :)

[Likes2drive]

Whatever is more accurate so we have real results and only citizens should be allowed to vote

[DrPepper12]

Federally and state yes. RESIDENTS - not just citizens -should be allowed to vote in local elections. That's just common sense.

[Anonymous]

Maybe. The UK Reform party ended up with 6 seats in parliament despite getting 15% of the vote. The Liberal Democrats got 72 seats with just 12% of the vote.

Labour got 33% of the vote and got 411 seats, the Conservatives got 23% of the vote and got 121 seats.

In short there is something very wrong with the UK voting system or else their is massive fraud going on.

[gatixek710]

Weird, you guys were just the other day saying it was a conspiracy theory that the democrats are allowing millions of illegals in and shipping them strategically to states to increase the odds they are elected.

[OddBeMe]

It’s a long time argument. Mathematicians would say it’s more accurate. But the constitution says whole persons. Not citizens. And slaves should be 3/5.

[exitseven]

We want concrete proof that people are living here. The count should not include illegal aliens.

[DrPepper12]

Read what you wrote slowly. Do you see the error?

[exitseven]

@DrPepper12 *there*

[DrPepper12]

No. They ARE living here. De facto local govts MUST plan for that so they must be counted as residents!!

[exitseven]

Yes, the problem lies that a lot of these local governments are run by democrats. They allow mail in ballots with no way to check k their authenticity and count everyone with a pulse Asa citizen.

[DrPepper12]

The ballots are unique and bar coded. Voting by mail is safe and secure. Voting itself is very safe and secure. You can't rig 3,143 separate elections. It CANNOT be done!!

[exitseven]

All states are different. There are some states like Massachusetts that let people register to vote by mail. Then you get a mail in ballot in the mail. You fill it out and mail it back. No barcode. There is a signature but they never check it. Once that ballot goes in the ballot box there is no way to distinguish it from a real ballot.
All you need to register to vote in Massachusetts is a valid Massachusetts drivers license. Two years ago they voted to give illegal aliens drivers licenses. Can you do the math?

[DrPepper12]

I'm just gonna point out YOUR use of the word "valid" before I reply...

They all using the CONGRESSIONALLY APPROVED FORM!!

The form requires a VALID driver's license number or SS# - How do you fake that?

The registration doesn't need a barcode it's driver's license specific as completed by sender!!

Once established, the ballot is for one person who registered!

Yes I can do the math. Paranoia + hyper-partisan = ignorant

[exitseven]

@DrPepper12 No, they need to be sent back and they can apply legally to become legal residents.