What are your thoughts on Amish people? Do you support their consciencous objector status? Should they be made to assimilate like other groups?

[DrPepper12]

Why do they get a free pass?

They don't assimilate for religious reasons so that's ok

They should assimilate like everyone else!

They get a pass cuz their white Protestants

They get a pass cuz their a lucrative tourist attraction

I don't know why they get a pass but they should assimilate

Updates

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I am REALLY confused!!!

Amish can have protected religious freedom as a reason to not assimilate but Muslims can't?

Amish can be worlds away culturally but Hispanics must assimilate?

I think you guys are giving the ultimate WASPs a free pass because they ARE WASPs

[Lliam]

I admire the Amish. They live healthy, hard working, self-sustaining, but rather idyllic lifestyles. There is no reason why they should be forced to assimilate into this dystopian consumer culture of fast food, McMansions and electronic devices. And for people who believe in "traditional" marriage, the Amish are a model.
They're not bothering anybody. Leave them alone.

[Lliam]

Re your update. You're really reaching.
Ever heard of Little Italy, Little Saigon, Koreatown, Chinatown, German, Scandinavian, Latin American communities, etc, etc. There are all kinds of ethnic communities in America. Jews are some of the most insular of all.
But the all assimilate. At least the second generation can speak English.

Who said Latin Americans have to be forced to assimilate? It would be stupid to be a citizen of a country and NOT. Wouldn't you if you moved to another country?

And are you asserting that Muslims are not allowed to practice Islam in the U. S? Instead of blaming WASPS for anti-Islamism, why not blame Zionists?

Why is popular for white liberals to pick on white people and stir divisiveness these days?

[DrPepper12]

Because white people have never been demanded to share power before so to them sharing feels like dimunation to the pale, stale, male crowd. It's not stirring up. It's recognition of the obvious.

Muslims, blacks, Hispanics are victims of violence or discrimination simply by their identity.

Many people think wrongly, that

[Lliam]

How very woke of you to stereotype, "white" people, white man.

[DrPepper12]

Stereotyping white people as holding the power in America? Are you impervious to facts, history and reality?

[Lliam]

You're right. I now feel so ashamed of being white. I must also be racist. I assume you are also ashamed of your "white privilege" and of acting too white.
ROFL
I'm laughing at the absurdity of wokeness.

[Anonymous]

Well if Obama could dodge the draft why can't they?

But seriously look all the wars the us has fought, imagine getting drafted for them. Muhammad Ali was completely right, do you want to fight a war in a 3rd world country against uneducated peasants protecting their homeland all so when you come back you can't get a job, you suffer PTSD, unknown physical illnesses due to chemicals, radiation and prescribed medication related to your sevice and you end up homeless possibly missing a limb. That's what happened to a lot of vets. That song Born in the USA, isn't a patriotic song like most people think if you actually listen to the lyrics.

[Opinion Owner]

Just Because you are fighting for your country doesn't mean your country is fighting for you.
https://youtu.be/CpSy0wfLcdw?si=0IN73OqgsURdsROb

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

There is a fun anecdote about the initial confusion with this song indeed !

"Springsteen attracted political attention during the initial U. S. leg when the conservative political commentator George Will attended the show. Will published a column about Springsteen the following month, wherein he praised the performer's work ethic and discussed his "presumed patriotism" with the usage of the phrase "born in the U. S. A.". President Ronald Reagan, in the middle of his reelection campaign, praised Springsteen's "patriotism".

Springsteen himself dismissively responded to Reagan's comments two days later during a show in Pittsburgh."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_in_the_U.S.A.#Tour

[Dongie]

I'd love to see an alternate universe where springsteen was born in China. How would the privileged liberal sing it then?

[Opinion Owner]

@Dongie https://youtu.be/MfdbcG0BTSk?si=SJM2AYjuZmL_w7Ua
https://youtu.be/Ehzq20bsxFk?si=5x1AwGHPJ1en34Su
No one more conservative or working class than Bruce Springsteen.
If you listen to the song it's about how badly Vietnam vetreans were treated when they came back.

[Dongie]

Sly killed it. I always said he should have pulled another Oscar for that.
Anybody who uses their platform to trash Trump is out as far as I'm concerned. Trump pulled together peace all over the planet. But how could the leftist voter see as they were too busy soaking up the lies from the MSM propaganda. Biden has wars all over now.

[Crimsyjo]

I don't really have any thoughts on how other people choose to live. Well. I might inside think hmm. That could suck. But its their choice so aa long as they leave me to my choices (and they can disapprove. Just quietly lol) then what's the issue?

We shouldn't force anyone to assimilate. Except criminals lol. But then you can't force just punish.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

They represent an odd institution to me, like a country in a country. I suppose it is a byproduct of US's philosophy of freedom?

If they are what I think they are, that is, a self contained community, abiding by the laws regarding abuse and criminality in US, and not trying to impose their ways on the world then I don't see the problem with them?

[docster]

There hasn't been a draft in the U. S. for almost 50 years so the conscientious objector thing doesn't really apply. It's a free country (unless Kamala gets in the WH) so I'd just let them be. The First Amendment guarantees the right to freedom of religion.

[Agape93]

What are your thoughts on Amish people?
Generally harmless, hard working and make some good furniture. They do have a major issue with incest violence though.

Do you support their consciencous objector status?
Sure. Nobody can force me to fight either.

Should they be made to assimilate like other groups?
Nope.

[Juxtapose]

The draft is unconstitutional because it is involuntary servitude. I am for everybody being able to refuse that bullshit.

There is absolutely nothing in the entire world the government can do for me that would be worth me dying for it. I'm not stupid.

[Dongie]

Well Doc, I could only pick the first one. They obviously are not faking it.

But another would be as this is America, let freedom ring.

I'm not real up on them. But what assimilation are you referring to?
Slow moving buggies, dress atire, way of speaking?
Do they abuse or have many wives?

[RowdyYates]

The Los Angeles police have to deal with people speaking in over 200 languages. I hope the assimilation kicks in pretty quick.

[Dongie]

Don't hold your breath. The Amush are with Trump, so here is the reason to screw with them. Let them know the Democrats use bully boy tactics to persuade. I wish they'd come around here. I've got over fifty boys who would love to meet them.

[Kelley1]

Not only Amish but no one should be forced into slavery which being drafted is.

[NathanDavis]

free pass? are they actually doing something illegal?

[blueonblack22]

You are worried about Amish voters in Pennsylvania aren’t you?

[DrPepper12]

Tbh my wife was watching some stupid vapid TLC show with Amish and I just wrote the question!!

[blueonblack22]

Lol fair enough. I believe you.

But a lot more Amish are registered to vote in Pennsylvania in this upcoming election.

[DrPepper12]

True. Big guaranteed block

[Anonymous]

At least they are not using damn "smart phones", so it's ok they don't assimilate :P

[DrPepper12]

Actually the menonites do. Kinda "Amish light"

[Opinion Owner]

They are heretics, what a blasphemy :O

[RedInnocent69]

Made to assimilate? Doesn’t sound like much freedumb!

[Hispanic-Cool-Guy]

I think they are weirdos but they can live how they want and be left alone.

[Anonymous]

what do you have against the Amish?

[DrPepper12]

What do you have against transparency?

[Opinion Owner]

in what way are the Amish not assimilating? not using technology? do you plan on enforcing that?

[DrPepper12]

Enforce? No I'm not a MAGA zealot.

In what way? They've lived apart for 250 years!!

Why do Amish get a pass on assimilation but Hispanics don't?

[Opinion Owner]

Amish aren't out here harming everyone else. illegal immigrants who commit crime are

[Dargil]

Read the First Amendment and get back to me.