So is the election really Immigrants vs the Economy?

[OddBeMe]

[gatixek710]

Unsurprising you’d have a problem with that statement. Trump’s economy was great. So it’s really the Economy/war/illegals/tyrrany vs. women and simps voting for the ability to kill children in the womb.

[OddBeMe]

Wrong on all accounts

[gatixek710]

Lol, ok.. without mentioning Trump let me know what kaMALA will do to fix the economy that she shouldn't have done the past 4 years.

[OddBeMe]

She wants to give small businesses 50k see etartup loans and students 25k for college.

[gatixek710]

Students already get loans for college.

[OddBeMe]

No... they apply like any other loan. You'd have to have gone college to know the intricacies of higher ed finances.

[gatixek710]

Which is exactly what I said. Students get loans for college.

[OddBeMe]

(Slaps face) they don’t “get” them like you do your unemployment checks.

[gatixek710]

What are you even talking about? like what semantic nonsense are you trying to do?

[DryGermanGuy]

Even in today's US-America it's a bit more complex than that...

https://www.youtube.com/embed/mtg5XHH9VHs

[OddBeMe]

They are desperate

[DryGermanGuy]

"Desperate" is putting it mildly. Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kTXKQ463W0

[purplepoppy]

And so it begins, next it'll be the death penalty for migrants shoplifters, then for just not having the right papers.

[TurtlePoop]

You're comparing murder to shoplifting? LOL

[goaded]

@TurtlePoop Trump didn't say "murder", he said "kills". “I’m hereby calling for the death penalty for any migrant who kills an American citizen or a law enforcement officer,”

How about traffic accidents?

A president who is willing to throw out parts of the constitution is capable of anything.

"No State shall... deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

[TurtlePoop]

@goaded

I heard he's going to bring back slavery!

[OddBeMe]

@goaded true. Death penalty is a conviction. Applied for just being an illegal not able to go through the process deliberately fucked by pols.

We're not saying dont lock up murderers or penalize with death (not a fan but its law) based on the fucking murder

[TurtlePoop]

Define "immigrants." We seem to have two versions.

[OddBeMe]

I dont see a diff when immigration access is deliberately fucked by politicians

[TurtlePoop]

Trump will win because of people not knowing the difference between murderers and people looking for a better life. It's not all that difficult for most of us.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

The elections I've seen are about meeting the expectations of a designated audience. Something changed?

[OddBeMe]

Yeah but the desperate repubs are unabashedly bashing immigrants bc theyre so afraid of another Dem landslide

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Yes, nurturing xenophobic instincts works on a designated audience. Working since thousands of years.

[OddBeMe]

But the size of idiot populism is here the US troubles me. Sucker punched me in 2016.

[jshm2]

No.

But immigration is a "hot topic" for some Americans. Despite all Americans being the product of immigrants.

[OddBeMe]

True. And we can be for law and order... like against trump for being a convict himself. Lol

[Anonymous]

no. this election is about how much Trump Derangement Syndrome voters have

some have none and others are infected with TDS from head to toe

[exitseven]

No, it is really about common sense VS the crazy train.

[OddBeMe]

Yeah agreed. Death penalty for the murder (tho im not for it) but bc he's an illegal

[Anonymous]

Trump is not going to get rid of immigrants him and his rich friends save money when they get cheap labor illegal immigrants.

[OddBeMe]

Sure thats never gonna happen. But the denigration of migrants who rarely commit crime is the issue

[Sevenpointfive]

do you get paid for shit talking trump? how can i get paid for shit talking harris?

[Anonymous]

Yes immigrants are hurting the economy

[OddBeMe]

How?

[Opinion Owner]

Driving down wages so people get paid less which means less money to spend in thd economy

[OddBeMe]

That’s just what corporate tv tells you. No immigrant drives down your wage. Corporations on the other hand…. do it ALL the time.

[Opinion Owner]

That's what corporations pay to tell you about mass immigration. They tell you it helps the economy but it helps them.

[OddBeMe]

What's the minimum wage now versus 20 years ago? Not the immigrants fault

[Opinion Owner]

What was the average wage and average price of a house 20 years ago? More immigrants mean lower wages as the job market is flooded with cheap labor.

[OddBeMe]

Immigrants have zero to do with that. Cost of living will increase like clockwork. Average workers aren't making enough because A) theyre unskilled and B) wage increases have only gone to ceos.

[Opinion Owner]

Supply & demand. More workers competing for the same jobs mean lower wages. It's that simple. Maybe you are an accountant or something but I'm sure if the number of accountants doubled or tripled tomorrow you would notice it in your paypacket.

[OddBeMe]

If you're competing with an illegal thats your problem

[Opinion Owner]

It's not about competing. There's a surplus of labor so wages get lowered.

[OddBeMe]

Labor is never gonna pay beyond poverty. Americans should be punished for not reaching higher than poverty. Enough of my tax dollars pay f0r them

[Opinion Owner]

You are licensed to earn by the taxpayers and let's be honest, software an AI can do your job better and more cost effective than you. Soon you will be in poverty.

[msc545]

Not really.