I think they're both endless debates because it never reaches any compromise, esp if the person is adamant on their strong views.
As an atheist that's against spanking kids, I'm always finding that both the pro-spankers and religious folks are the ones more likely to try forcing their views on us, esp if they're using the bible as a guide. Meanwhile, we don't try converting them but they try to do that with us. The only reason I become outspoken about my views is when the other person is going too far with their views, trying to force me to agree with them. Just like I'll never change into their views, I don't expect them to change either.
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