THIS IS FUCKING NUTS! Who supports this? OK State Ed buying Bibles & directives for prayer? "In particular" prayer for Trump! This IS theocracy?

[DrPepper12]

Welcome to the MAGA Party Christo-fascist regime! I'm sure the worthless corporate media didn't let you know about this fun little nugget!

Portions of the "prayer":

“For too long in the country, we’ve seen the radical left attack individual religious liberty in our schools. We will not tolerate that in Oklahoma. We’ve also seen patriotism mocked and a hatred for this country pushed by woke teacher’s unions. We will not tolerate that.

Dear God, thank you for all the blessings you’ve given our country. I pray for our leaders to make the right decisions. I pray in particular for Donald Trump and his team as they continue to bring about change to the country.”

https://youtu.be/FMaMCS-U2Bs?si=8tLbbqHF6sOaHYnn

Let's not forget the (currently being amended to pass constitutional muster) plan to buy 55,000 Trump Bibles!

"Walters said the move represented “the first in the nation Bible purchase explicitly for use in schools as an academic and literary resource,” and described the purchase as “the first step toward providing Bibles for every classroom in the state."

The purchase was separate from a prior request for proposal issued by the Oklahoma State Department of Education for 55,000 Bibles. The request was originally tailored with specific requirements that few versions of Bible appeared to meet. One exception was the "God Bless the U. S. A." Bible endorsed by Trump, also known colloquially as the “Trump Bible.”

https://youtu.be/Z4YbhnaQqAw?si=Iyskix8wdkBCReJG

PLEASE DON'T CHOOSE OPTION 5!! IT'S MY SELF DEPRECATING HUMOR AND I'M MORE INTERESTED IN THE OTHER OPINIONS.

I KNOW YOU WANT IT PICK IT! BE STRONG!

This is just the beginning of MAGA Christo-fascism.

The Bible should be taught as well as institution led prayer.

RELAX! This stunt doesn't have a prayer of passing - pun untended

The Bible as a literary source & historical influence is OK but that's it!

It's the Lords commanded day of rest. How about you give it a rest?

Updates

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You guys... 😑 U couldn't resist could you? Day of rest is over now...

[Juxtapose]

As long as the kids are not forced to pray I don't see what's wrong with it. Classrooms are adorned with gay pride and all this other stuff that is basically a religion now.

I would prefer if religion and this cult-like behavior in general was restricted to study rather than brought into other things but it is what it is. A lot of the southern states probably still teach that the civil war was the war of northern aggression and there are some people that will deny evolution.

I am with you on being cautious about religion but at the same time I know these southern fuckers are going to shove it in somehow and sticking it to the work while doing it makes me happy.

[Juxtapose]

*to the woke

[DrPepper12]

Prayer led by an authority figure is de facto coercion not voluntary.

I taught history and yes, Southern curriculums are full of nonsense and lies

[Avicenna]

lol, where did you teach history? NYC Public Schools? Or somewhere else?

[FoxnEagle]

I always love the "oh no! we have someone who's morally corrupt! He/She must be the anti-christ!"

Meanwhile, the true anti-christ will persecute and kill Christians
Will have supernatural powers
and, most importantly, "All who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."

Trump has given more liberties to the Church and campaigned on allowing prayer back in schools
Is very much mortal, old, and quite the laughingstock sometimes (watching him try to open the garbage truck door... made me worried)
And he is so hated he's been shot at, twice. Half the nation hates him, a quarter tolerates him enough, and the last quarter loves him. That's just the USA; if modern media is to be believed, his approval isn't much better in most other countries...

[Anonymous]

Matthew 24:36

But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.

[DrPepper12]

Oooooookkkkkkkaaaaaayyyyyyy irrelevant dellusions

[Opinion Owner]

Are Muslim teachers & students banned from praying during school? The school I was at barred Christians from praying, having meetings or clubs and from wearing any crucifixes or religious symbols due to a "separation of church & state". Yet Muslims were allowed to pray, meet, carry the Koran, wear religious dress etc. The principal and staff were too afraid to say no to Muslims.

[Anonymous]

"I was told to hate this so I'm spreading misinformation in attempt to fear-monger."

[Opinion Owner]

gag posted this in the wrong Q
kinda funny being polar opposite to this Q it landed in

[DJB72]

If you don't understand Christianity it's impossible to understand the history of the USA since the revolution in 1776 was driven by men looking for freedom from persecution and wanting freedom to WORSHIP GOD the way they wanted to instead of fealty to the king.

Your constitution was written based on biblical violations - including the First Amendment which allows freedom of religion and freedom of speech. The rights you have in the USA are a direct result of the influence of Christianity.

What's "fucking nuts" is being lectured on the evils of Christian teaching by people that have clearly never read it and understood it.

[Snakeyes7]

No... if this is a theocracy then he would have made it illegal to not participate in the religion, kinda like how a certain LGHDTV group has been trying to make it illegal to not play pretend with them. It thankfully hasn't flown in the US and I hope it never does and the fact that they tried it in Canada is why Jordan Peterson got into the spotlight because he recognizes that it is no different than what you fear Trump will do.

These bibles don't prove anything because he has been selling more merchandise than bibles in case you haven't noticed.

[DrPepper12]

So huckster of the divine is ok in our POTUS s? I just can't

[Snakeyes7]

Who?

[Ladsin2]

I find the idea of Trump as a Christo-fascist humorous. This is the man who's had multiple wives, couldn't find his Bible when looking for it, and is quite self-aggrandizing. I think your radicalism is shining through. That said, I don't feel like watching a video, do you have an article I could read instead? If the Bible is being taught for some comparative religions class, history, or literature class I have no problem with it. The Bible is a foundational text to understanding the western canon. If religion is being taught in school I'm not a fan and think it will encounter troubles on 1st amendment grounds.

[lightbulb27]

That is a lot of Bibles... when they exist on your phone. And why Trump Bibles? I smell not truth...

I'm ok with religious books in general in school, and freedom of expression of that since it's education.

But required reading too far... unless is a specific class that explores belief systems, why they exist, etc..

this though... will get into other messes because that is high level reading.

[DrPepper12]

I use excerpts of all holy texts in my classroom along with historically accurate info about the religions.

[lightbulb27]

I think good job, nothing wrong with that.

[blueonblack22]

I don’t want any of this crap. But this what I see my taxpayer dollars funding at my local library:

[DrPepper12]

My library sets up a display of banned books at entrance and positively encourages reading every book that moms for liberty challenges. I 💕 it!

[blueonblack22]

None of these books are “banned”. This is promoted for an agenda. There were several other “children’s educational material” including so called children’s books written by “prominent” authors like Chelsea Clinton. Also other “educational” books pushing trans ideology.

But you know what let tax payer funded public libraries push this crap and let them be noticed by anybody who has half a brain. Then let democrats keep digging dig themselves deeper and deeper into a hole.

You wonder why charter schools are on the rise? It’s because parents are noticing this crap and lots of them are pulling their kids out of schools for good reason.

[Dongie]

Her name was Madeline O'Hara and she, as an atheist, successfully had prayer removed from the American schools. It wasn't to long after that things changed drastically in schools. Aside from drugs we have witnessed shootings that has devastated families across the country.

[Dongie]

*O'Hare

[DrPepper12]

It wasn't removal of prayer that was the problem

[Dongie]

Pray tell what was it?

[Anonymous]

it's absurd how badly Trump lives free rent in your head

[DrPepper12]

If the answers trigger you perhaps you shouldn't read the questions...

[Opinion Owner]

that's rich coming from someone still obsessed with Trump living rent free in your head

[Flower7]

There’s nothing wrong with having religion in schools.

[Syntosi]

It is literally unAmerican.

[DrPepper12]

Agreed! Pastafarianism! The satanic temple and meism should all be in schools! Right on!

[seeyounexttuesday]

State Superintendent: This isn't to push one religion, it's my guarantee that you can practice your religion freely, I'm going to pray, you don't have to join in if you don't want.

Dr Pepper: OMG THIS IS CHRISTIAN FASCISM!!!111!!!

[DrPepper12]

Prayer led by authority figures is defacto coercive per SCOTUS

The Supreme Court case Lee v. Weisman (1992) addresses the issue of prayer led by school personnel being coercive. In this case, the Court found that a public high school graduation ceremony featuring a monotheistic prayer indirectly coerced students to pray, violating the Establishment Clause1. This principle of indirect coercion was later applied in Santa Fe Independent School District v. Doe (2000), where student-led prayers at football games were also deemed coercive.

However the supermajority of Trump cabal said this:
The recent Supreme Court case Kennedy v. Bremerton School District (2022) challenges the precedent set by Lee v. Weisman. In Kennedy, the Court ruled in favor of a high school football coach who prayed on the field, determining that his actions were not unconstitutionally coercive25. This decision indicates a shift in how the Court views indirect coercion, moving away from the strict interpretation of the Establishment Clause seen in Lee v. Weisman.

[seeyounexttuesday]

The court is wrong. How stupid.

[DrPepper12]

Don't worry. SCOTUS is now in the hands of radicals who wanna go back to the 1680s...

[seeyounexttuesday]

I’m glad. I hope Trump takes Bidens plan to add more justices while he’s at it.

[exitseven]

I spent a lot of time in Oklahoma way back when, . They really are a little bit out there when it comes to religion.

[DrPepper12]

My aunt was from OKLAHOMA and she was indeed out there with Jesus crap.

[Avicenna]

Theocracy is, for example, your friends in the Iranian mullacracy.

[DrPepper12]

Theocratic then...

[Dargil]

He won. Just give it up.

[DtMe89]

49th in education, and they're only proving why they are

[Anonymous]

I think its a good thing

[KrakenAttackin]

You are losing your mind, Sir.

[Anonymous]

Waaaaaaaaaaaahhaaaa
😢

[DrPepper12]

Coward, juvenile & vacuous. It's a trifecta!!