Israel is worse. But it is better at playing the victim no matter what it does. It is a master at hiding reality and looking innocent through mainstream media propaganda. Plus is plays the "antisemitism" card whenever it is criticized.
I look forward to the day when it meets the same end as Nazi Germany and its leaders face Nuremberg trials.
The significant difference is that the Jews are doing it more efficiently with military explosives as opposed to the Germans who had to use gas.
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u Well, I don't recall ever reading about the Jews attacking Germany and killing innocent civilians.
There is no Palestine except the one that the Arabs in the Gaza Strip are trying to perpetrate against the Jews.
Israel has the lowest casualty rate compared to the combatants they kill for urban combat in all of history. The USA certainly can't do better than them in that regard. Also..
"We use leaflets, we use millions of text messages, phone calls. We actually call the people, give up the benefit of surprise, tell them: ‘Get out of the way. Get out of the war zone so that we can accomplish our military objectives while you’re in a safe place,'” said Netanyahu.
“We’re facing 35,000 Hamas terrorists. We’ve killed already about 14,000, wounded many others, and we’re progressing towards that goal” of destroying the terror group, he added.
Israeli government spokesman Avi Hyman on Monday reinforced Netanyahu’s message, saying that the Israel Defense Forces had killed more than 14,000 terrorists and approximately 16,000 civilians since the outbreak of the war on Oct. 7.
“Israel is setting the new gold standard for urban warfare with what appears to be the lowest civilian-to-combatant casualty ratio in history,” stated Hyman.
Last week, the United Nations admitted it overcounted the number of Gazan children who have been confirmed killed in the war by a staggering 42%."
https://www.jns.org/israel-releases-new-gaza-death-toll-claims-historically-low-civilian-deaths/
"The death toll among civilians in Gaza — even including children and women — is among the lowest in the history of comparable warfare. The media’s double standard against Israel buries this."
"Nations engaged in genocide do not go to such great lengths trying to reduce civilian casualties, including placing its own soldiers at heightened risk by employing focused ground forces instead of relying exclusively on air and sea bombardments."
"The time has come, indeed it is long overdue, for the world to stop imposing a double standard on the nation-state of the Jewish people. Double standards are a form of bigotry, and when bigotry is addressed to the only nation-state of the Jewish people, it becomes a form of international antisemitism against the Jew among nations. It must stop."
absolutely. for one, israel isn't conducting inhumane long term medical experiments using palestinians as lab rats and then also i don't know that there are any concentration camps or killing camps specifically for the palestinians.
you know in nazi germany, they would just straight up kill some of the jews. but it wasn't like with guns in hands, intruding into their living areas. it was more like you got sent on a train trip to some sort of "medical" reason and then you'd be told to take a shower but instead of water, it was cyclon b rushing in to kill everyone.
in the concentration camps, it was as deadly but instead of killing the jews right away, they were quite litterally forced to do slave labour till they died of either starvation or exhaustion.
so the hamas actually has an easy way out. just stop trying to be asovereign nation and submit to the israeli government. that way you stay alive and nothing bad happens to you. the jews in germany didn't have that option. cause hitler was hellbent on killing them in whatever way possible.
like israel actually made an effort to warn the civilians so they could get out of harms way. that shows that israel isn't actually comitting a "genocide". it's purely a territorial war and in parts a war against terrorism. not technically a genocide.
Exactly. If you warn someone not to cross a street at a dangerous intersection and they do and get killed, whose fault is that?
@Daniela1982 I mean they are creating the danger in the first place tho.
@genericname85 So, if it were your family members who got kidnapped by Hamas and they were killing some of them after blowing up your neighborhood with rockets, what would you do? Would you hunt them down and get vengeance, or just say "Oh well!"
@Daniela1982 I mean that's not the entire story. If they were like "be part of Israel or this happens" I'd just be part of Israel. XD cause it's whatever. Doesn't change anything
isreel isn't doing experiments and gassing people.
it's more like USA carpet bombing germany and japan in WWII. It's part of war.
doesn't mean it's right or there aren't better options. how hard is it to send a ship in there and take people out to sea?
yes. the Jews were initially imprisoned as conspirators. similar to how America imprisoned Japanese Americans. widespread bombing of Germany and Britain's refusal to surrender and become a German ally are what led to the deaths of the Jews in the camps. it's well documented, the Jews were supposed to be expelled. as had happened in 100s of countries before. interestingly, there's evidence prominent Orthodox Jews WANTED a Holocaust (literally: holy sacrifice) and had prophesied 6 million Jews would need to die, for the remaining 1 million (the number 7 is important in judaism) to get support to immigrate to Israel / Palestine. this is real history!
For one thing, there were over 6 million Jews killed. How many Palestinians? Did Israel kidnap any Palestinians and kill them like Hamas did to their hostages? Who was the ones who took the first shot? But Israel should do more to let aid get to Gaza for those in need.
Yes there is! The Jews didn't attack the Germans in fact didn't even fight them yet they were slaughtered in many hideous ways. Israel and the Palestinians have been shooting at each other for years and it was only after a group supported by Palestinians came to a peaceful concert and slaughtered 1300 plus Jews and some non Jew visitors plus kidnapping 200 plus and taking them away.
Considerable. The Nazis had the objective of killing them whereas the israeli objective is fighting Hamas, Hezbollah etc. The later is forced but the former wasn't.
The situation might be highly likely to result in non-combatant deaths but that doesn't make it the same.
I was going to reply with an answer to this, but... nope.
I'll just say that, "Yes, there is a difference", and leave it at that. Anyone interested in making comparisons between what the Nazis did and what's happening right now, can work it out for themselves I think.
Yes, there is. The Nazis had the explicit goal of exterminating Jews. Israel has no such goal. The Gazans or a portion of them committed an act of terrorism against Israel. You can argue that the response was grossly disproportional but it's not genocidal.
@msc545 dude you don't know how genocides work. Israel could literally turn the entire Gaza Strip into a parking lot with their uncontested air superiority and also with sea bombardments. They don't have to have a single soldier on the ground, they are literally only sending in soldiers to have more precise operations and reduce civilian casualties.
The USA itself has never had such a low amount of civilians killed compared to the enemy when it engaged in urban warfare itself. The Gaza Strip is very small and the Hamas leadership is intentionally instructing its fighters to hide under hospitals and use civilians as shields so gullible westerners can put international pressure on Israel to make them less effective.
This won't end until Hamas is exterminated.
@Juxtapose Have you ever been to Gaza?
Have you spoken to Gazans or Hamas so you somehow know what Hamas is saying?
@msc545 I can do way better than that, I can give you a dude who was raised by a founder of Hamas and he himself has grown up in Gaza.
youtube.com/shorts/2tXZnmRL9Mo?si=LQ8ONVjzknjPYuVq
youtube.com/shorts/LLyJeurMAyc?si=gIsT8bZSc-9PZ6mS
@Juxtapose So what? You keep thinking this kind of shit represents truth and it doesn't.
@Juxtapose You have not been there, and you have not spoken to that man who may or may not have ever been there,
All you have is yet another youtube video. Meaningless.
"not spoken to that man who may or may not have ever been there,"
You may as well be saying Joe Biden has never been in America with how stupid that comment is.
www.cnn.com/.../the-lead-israel-hamas-war-netanyahu-palestine-gaza-oct-7-jake-tapper
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosab_Hassan_Yousef
"Mosab Hassan Yousef (Arabic: مصعب حسن يوسف; born 5 May 1978) is an ex–Palestinian militant who defected to Israel in 1997, thereafter working as an Israeli spy for the Shin Bet until he moved to the United States in 2007. His father is Sheikh Hassan Yousef, a co-founder of Hamas. A New York Times bestselling author, he is known for his outspoken criticisms of Hamas and Islam."
@Juxtapose So he says. Give it up.
Yeah. Jews didn't do terror attacks on Germany, didn't gang rape and kidnapped women and children, didn't set babies on fire, and the nazis killed every jew they found in any country they went into.
Israelis aren't killing every Palestinian they find. All they wanted, was to kill terrorists and rescue their civilians who are still being gang raped and tortured.
One was genocide, the other is a sloppy war to rescue their people and defend themselves.
Couldn't say, as I stay away from politics, news, and I don't believe I personally know any Palestinian people or Jewish people. I mean, I am pretty confident I know someone who probably is Jewish but I just don't bring up religion and if they happen to be Jewish, they know me well enough to not bring politics and religion up around me since nobody I've ever seen discuss those topics ever seem to mirror one another's beliefs to a tee.
It seems according to our western media some countries play with different rules than others. When you call behavior of 'a nation that is at home where they want to be' a genocide as politician or mainstream media member, you're done.
Are you that stupid? Israel has been callous in some of it's bombings but it was all triggered by a murderous assault that killed over 1,000 Israelis. The Jews of Europe didn't kill a bunch of Germans and then the perps hid among civilians. The Nazi's explicitly sought to murder every Jew in areas under their control. If Israel sought to do that there wouldn't be any Palestinians left.
There is a world of difference. Nazi Germany used the idea of eugenics and racial hatred to justify the Holocaust. Palestine is using their civilians as human shields to try and destroy Israel; while tricking the rest of the world that they are the victims.
Is there any difference between oil and water?
I mean they both are found on planet earth.
You know that question is formed to be very insulting to those of us that are in the right of realty. It's sad some people can not see the truth in things.
Of course.
Palestinians aren't being rounded up, gassed to death, and cremated in ovens.
Ohhhhh yes. There are HUGE differences. Namely, the Palestinians have their own territory. The Nazis never would have given jews any kind territory.
Kill my family. and then ask for a cease fire. Good luck with that
Regarding genocide, is there any significant difference between Hamas' and Hesb'Allah's treatment of Jews and Nazi treatment of Israeli's? None.
Yes there is. Israel is not sending people to concentration camps and gassing and burning them in large ovens.
hamas are pretty much the 21st century nazis, why do you think they want a 2 state solution so badly?, hmm
The Jews were trying to take advantage of both with no concern for the well being of others. The Jews and Muslims hate everyone outside of their own groups anyway.
No. The Nazi's at least didn't victim blame the Jews they were killing, unlike Israel.
Yes, the Jews did not attack Germany. Take hostages or Evan allow others to use their country to do so.
We can see it happening. The Holocaust didn't become public until the end of the war.
Everything that's currently transpiring in Gaza is the direct fault of the Hamassholes.
Yeah. The palestinians started the war with Israel. Israel is just finishing it.
Its different, yes. They are not a 1 to 1.
Its more comparable to some of the situations of the crusades than WW2.
Germany built factories to kill people. Israel is looking for the hostages. If they were surrendered, world opinion would force Israel to stop.
Major difference. There is no Palestinian genocide
How about the USAs attempted genocide of the native Americans?
Yes. Main difference is there is no genocide on "palestinians".
No! Israel has become the Nazis. Israel has become the Nazis!
Yeah. In Gaza they’re just having bombs dropped on them instead of being gassed
Yes they tried to get all Jews
Pallistaine has so many people some will survive
Hitler outlined the oppression of Jews years before he became Chancellor. Anti-semetism was central to Nazi ideology. Israel wasn't founded to kill Palestiians.
Gee you’re right. We should always trust every politician at their word
Are you really that ignorant?
Ps... I am sorry, did I miss the announcement where all of the HOSTAGES were set free?
Oh did HAMAS surrender? I must have missed that.
Such a programmed NPC.
Similar but Nazis were more brutal
Not really imho,,,
Degree and number, not kind.
Yeah, google Josef Mengele
Not even close to the same thing
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