"My body, my choice?" Agree or Disagree?

[HawkPerception]

Agree

Disagree

[ClaircognizantEmpath]

ok guys, im from the uk and upon recent reversal of laws in quite a number of states in the u. s whereby the hard fought rights for women and their children appeared to reflect the handmaids tale!! we have free contraception here, at 16yrs old a girl can walk into a pharmacy and request morning after pill for free from having unprotected sex, contraception is easily cheaply available but guys prefer intercourse without a condom, girls actually do too, it feels better lets be honest, guys promise to pull out and can't, its a mans sperm just 1 from millions that create this conception, one egg one sperm, connected combined with life potential, this floats around for maybe a week, just duplicating, so if emergency pill not taken, it will likely embed in the womb lining, within 4 weeks confirmed... now this cluster of cells exists because of 1 sperm that a guy let fertilise her egg, within a month embedded, but let me strongly enforce upon any guy reading this, her body and mind is about to experience Alien, for real... a female is a portal that allows life to exist inside of her, from the moment of implantation it is actually a parasite, it is going to strip everything from its host, until the day she dies, hopefully at an old age... this female soul upon finding out she is carrying the potential for a new life, feels, thinks, imagines a lifetime ahead... the figures for children and babies in social care in some of these states, blew my mind, also if a girl comes through foster care she is more likely to be pregnant by 21, most likely leading to a repeat pattern, what if guys from 15/16 were routinely temporarily infertile until serious ltr or marriage? your body your choice? for me, nobody has a right higher than my own over my body and lifelong commitments... because at the end of the day, its the mother left holding the baby!!!

[Dongie]

Get the fuck out!

[Dongie]

Say that again. 😅

[Dongie]

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[Crimsyjo]

I'm UK too. And I agree with you. This post will attract the nuts but haha ignore them. Let's see what the guy feels like if we don't abort but can pass 100% responsibility to the male to financially and emotionally support any baby he creates without any involvement from us at all.

[emeraldsaphire]

Wow, I wish we could get free contraceptive in the US. Anyway, I'm not sure about the whole baby is an alien parasite and women are portals thing.

[Crimsyjo]

@emeraldsaphire it isn't free? For anyone?

[emeraldsaphire]

@Crimsyjo There may be some charities and insurance that cover it 100%, but I've always paid. Maybe my insurance is just crappy I don't know lol

[Gospeedracer]

Have your tubes tied. If you bring a life into this world take responsibility for it

[HawkPerception]

@Gospeedracer Did you know that humans are one of the only mammals that cannot reabsorb their fetus at will?

In most animals cases, if they're stressed, they can do that. Is it considered immoral if they do it?

Look images of fetuses in the first trimester. On top of being miniscule, they don't know what the world is like. They don't even know that they won't get to see it. They're not thinking anything deep or profound. It's an ethical time to abort them at that stage. There are very few pregnancies that end up in abortions in the third trimester.

I'm not saying go out, have sex irresponsibly, get knocked up, and have abortions 24/7.

But I am saying that people should not be able to force others to do things they want them to do with their body.

[Crimsyjo]

Haha @HawkPerception don't waste your breath. I've had this argument on here. The brain doesn't form until like at least two weeks after the legal cut off stage for abortion. Can something with no thoughts/mind be considered "a baby" yet?

Anyways.. contraception should be considered a good thing for pro lifers surely as it stops that issue of decision? But not as drastic as "tubes tied".

[HawkPerception]

@Crimsyjo I know, I know. You're right. I always feel the need to argue logic, but they ignore it 😅

[Crimsyjo]

Some people just make their mind up and will never budge. Your logic is useful for others tho reading the thread so don't stop!

[chrissykerdock]

when your pregnant 7 to 9 months it's not your body anymore it's a babies body

[Pete671]

I would say 7-9 seconds after ejaculation, but I appreciate your honesty,,,

[Miristheiss]

About what?

It depends on what we are talking about.

The ultimate decision is up to the person but healthy people take others council to heart.

A true wife, someone who loves their husband will take her husband's view into consideration if she is thinking about piercing her tongue and he finds it revolting.

Anyone who is just "I'm going to do whatever I want and F them if they don't like it" really isn't worthy of being married anyway. Such a person should just stay single.

Abortion? A living human is not her body, so just flippantly declaring since the living person it TEMPORILY housed inside of her body for a few months doesn't automatically mean she gets full reign to just kill the person.

Rabid feminists and promiscuous sluts who want abortion at any point in any circumstance support this and really spout this narrative.

You have to hold doctors responsible too. Just because a woman's asks for it, there need to be responsibilities about them going into and taking the life of an infant person just because mom wants to end its' possible 70-80 year life and legacy because she doesn't want it in her for 4 months.

Abortion is tricky with just blanket statements like this.

[DrPepper12]

100% hers and hers alone. NOT HIS & CERTAINLY NOT GOVT!

[seeyounexttuesday]

Brought to you by the guy who loved vaccine mandates a couple of years ago.

[Danzigdawson]

@DrPepper12 Damn straight.

[DrPepper12]

I was totally cool with refusal numbnuts. Just die with the consequences of your actions

[OlderAndWiser]

Every unborn child should have the right to decide whether they will be murdered before they are born.

[Navynailpolish]

When you'll know what it feels like to shove a baby out then you will have a right to decide what you yourself can do with your own body. An unborn child isn't even conscious

[OlderAndWiser]

Your convenience and comfort justifies murder? Guess what, you COULD just use birth control, but. . . That would require taking some responsibility.

[Navynailpolish]

Its a basic human right to have the freedom of choice. Which means freedom and ownership over your own body. A woman doesn't have to go through the process of pregnancy if she doesn't want to, especially not the birth, considering how traumatic and dangerous it can be.

[HawkPerception]

I'm with you

[NaultD]

As a quick quippie rally chat it's fine. As whole message it falls apart fairly quickly. You see how the anti vaccine people use it ironically.

Really deep stuff can't fit on a picket sign.

Vast majority of the population is accept abortion from an undefined time period. Pretty normal miscarriage time frames. It happens you still got to go to work the next day level of it happens.

Now there is late term abortion that account of 1% of all abortions. These are not compatible with life fetuses. Never falling asleep because it's so paying and it calls for a mother mercy. Some mothers use the dark web to express the horrors of these births.

[itsannalee]

100% agree.
But that’s also works for everyone, like your body your rules. My mind my rules, so you have right to wear everything you want, so everything you want. But people also have the same right to have something on their mind, maybe glare at you or stare in the public. Because that the same like your right, they eyes, their mind their rules.

[emeraldsaphire]

I agree with bodily anatomy. I think women and men should be able to do what ever they want. Not get vaccines, take drugs with out a prescription, right to die, sex work, what ever.

It gets a little funny with abortion though, because the baby has a right to have a choice too. It's a question about when life begins. I don't know the answer. Nobody knows for sure. So I say leave it up for individuals to decide.

[monorprise]

A person has no protected right to life if anyone is alloyed to kill them. @emeraldsaphire
This is exactly what you propose to do in "leaving it up to the indiviual to decide" on the grounds that your not sure about when you think life begins.

The indiviual who wants to kill anther for their personal convinces will simply declare that it begins after whenever they decided to kill them.
For there to be any enforceable right to life at all a 3rd party (state) that draws and enforces the line.

If you want individuals to have a say on the issue then they logically have to choose among those parties ahead of time. For fairness sake before the baby was conceived.

This is what letting states dictate abortion law allows post-row, provided we have some retrospective. If your going to choose to live in a pro-life state you can't simply skip out with the baby to kill them after the fact.

[Stevepro68]

It's a slogan and like all slogans lack intelligence and nuance to answer the real questions. It's impact on society and all the repercussions. It's not a policy it's a simple slogan for the simple minded.

[PeachyPie93]

Only the 10,000 time this stupid question been asked.. even if you ban abortions people will just do it illegally because no one actually cares about a little alien fetus up some sluts duff..

[talentedclock]

UGH WHAT KIND OF HORRIBLE WORLD DO WE LIVE IN WHERE A WOMAN CAN'T DO SOMETHING AS SIMPLE AS KILL HER BABY? THIS IS LITERALLY SLAVERY

[Djaay]

Are u a born again followers in GODS spirit?

[blueonblack22]

Well did “my body my choice” apply to COVID vaccines when Biden used OSCHA to force mandate vaccinating to keep your job? But we are all supposed to forget that, right?

[Kelley1]

I disagree because it is not your body, It is the government. Slaves don't own their bodies. In a fair world, you should own your body but the world is not fair.

[oldpigg]

I am a medical student but in this case I am against abortion.

[monorprise]

Abortion only makes sense if you dehumanize the 100% human infant. A lie that is usually only believable until the mother hears or sees the first evidence their babies little body is Not their own!

[Danzigdawson]

@monorprise Abortion as "murder" only makes sense when your imagination, or faith (same difference), allows you to skip months and several stages of fetal development to hallucinate that an embryo is a fully formed "human" with dreams and aspirations.

[monorprise]

@Danzigdawson Abortion is only not Murder, when you imagine such both does not exist and is not required for a Human to be entitled to the protection of the right to life. Certantly isn't required for any human after birth, nor any other animal.

There is also very clear reason to beleive babies can have dreams and aspirations before birth just as there is reason to believe many 18 year olds don't.

[Danzigdawson]

@monorprise 😄 Such as?

[Danzigdawson]

The pro-life movement does not stem from genuine concern and care for children. If it did, it would support welfare programs designed to improve the shitty living conditions that they're forcing both single mother and unplanned/unwanted child into.

It's a "moral" movement that's way more concerned about promiscuity and finding ways to control female sexuality. Once a woman gives birth, it's: "Fuck you, you're on your own. We couldn't care less about you and your child. You should've thought of that before having sleazy sex out of wedlock, you jezebel! That's your punishment for being a slut."

Forcing people to give birth and take care of an unwanted child is immoral. Caring more about a clump of cell, or a foetus than the welfare of growing children is as hypocritical as it's stupid.

[monorprise]

@Danzigdawson

Dreaming, unique personal behavior patterns etc.. theses are all evidence of a distinct indiviual. Not that his required to be a living human.

www.fatherly.com/.../when-do-babies-start-dreaming

[monorprise]

@Danzigdawson
We do take mesures to improve living conditions, and try to compel fathers to furfuill their responsabilities.

That said Living conditions are relative, even the poorest of Americans has vastly improved living conditions compared to nearly all of their ancestors.

The reality is your extreme spoiled.

[Gwendoline]

Once I got married it became our body because I am his and he is mine.

[Dargil]

But not the body of an unborn infant with unique DNA. That's a separate human rights issue.

[Pete671]

What about the child who has no choice about being murdered for the mother's convenience?

[HawkPerception]

Did you know that humans are one of the only mammals that cannot reabsorb their fetus at will?

In most animals cases, if they're stressed, they can do that. Is it considered immoral if they do it?

Look images of fetuses in the first trimester. On top of being miniscule, they don't know what the world is like. They don't even know that they won't get to see it. They're not thinking anything deep or profound. It's an ethical time to abort them at that stage. There are very few pregnancies that end up in abortions in the third trimester.

I'm not saying go out, have sex irresponsibly, get knocked up, and have abortions 24/7.

But I am saying that people should not be able to force others to do things they want them to do with their body.

[Anonymous]

Only as long as it is in fact your body and not an innocent person's no matter how small.

[pinconon]

I agree for the most part unless a life is involved

[mrkdvsn]

If we're talking about abortion, I disagree. If we're talking about so-called "vaccines' or other medical procedures, I would agree

[Dongie]

What about the body they want to murder?

[MarjorieJ]

Ask them if it's OK to smoke crack while pregnant.

[Dongie]

Yep!

[Dongie]

I'm watching 'Blazing Saddles'.

[MarjorieJ]

Sara talked about a teen crack baby that wishes she was dead. You can't hear that with dry eyes.

[Dongie]

I bet! I've not heard about that since that episode on 'Family Guy' about 15 years ago.

[MarjorieJ]

The toll booth scene was brilliant. Does anyone have a dime?

[Dongie]

I think it was actually prom night garbage babies. The one singing in the ally swinging his umbilical cord.

[Dongie]

Crack babies was South Park.

[MarjorieJ]

This was a sad story.

[Dongie]

I've not heard it. I'm sure it is. How many abortions have been celebrated by the left? 70 million?

[Dongie]

I remember asking my mom what the word meant in 72. When she told me I couldn't understand a mother killing her baby.

[MarjorieJ]

It's not something you would have heard about.

[MarjorieJ]

Sad stuff.

[Dongie]

How'd you hear it?

[MarjorieJ]

She told me.

[Dongie]

Oh, k.

[Dongie]

Where's the asker? Hawk!

[HawkPerception]

What'd I miss?

[Dongie]

Quite a bit. 😅

[Dongie]

Here's one for all you ghouls! https://youtube. com/shorts/sun8qm32XG8? si=1MIHLHeBCeki8pcR

[Dongie]

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[Dongie]

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[Dongie]

With all the ways to prevent pregnancy and one way to get pregnant, people should be able to keep from slaughtering a defenseless baby.

[HawkPerception]

@Dongie back in the distant past women would leave their babies to die in the wilderness after birthing them if they didn't want to raise the kids. Modern abortion is much more ethical than that. Back then they didn't have people to hover their every move. They had privacy and were able to do what they wanted without government and camera's on them 24/7.

There are many animals that do the same or even kill their babies. It's the same thing for humans. A baby doesn't know anything about life. It hasn't experienced the world. It doesn't know about anything that's going on. It is ethical to have an abortion at the time where the fetus is barely formed.

I don't understand why people feel like if a woman chooses to have an abortion for whatever her reasons are, they need to fly out the choppers and force her to have the baby.

[Dongie]

@HawkPerception I've not heard about that. I don't think they had birth control, and they were pretty uncivilized to do such things. Wouldn't you say? We're not gonna get along on this issue, Hawk. There's no reason to get pregnant in this day and age but for rape. None!

[HawkPerception]

@Dongie No worries. I respect your opinion brother.

[Dongie]

thanks. And I you.

[dustybiker2]

Wow
49% woman haters here.

[exitseven]

Agree, there should be no vaccine mandates.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Do I believe in Body Autonomy? of course.

[Wiredone]

Yes I agree with it to an extent