Is there a difference?

[OddBeMe]

Yes

No

[RavVid]

In what way are they similar? I know little about either but one seems a politically motivated assassination and other seems more like self defense. None of these deaths should have occurred but to try to put moral equivalence in place is a bad call.

[OddBeMe]

I'm not supportive of either but both seem to me politically motivated situations of murder e

[RavVid]

OK. I've obviously have no investment so I'm not going to dispute. It is more interesting the values that a person brings to making judgments. That is not me criticizing your values/judgement.

More that to have logic, as well as reasoning, you require premises/values. The later is the most interesting.

[OddBeMe]

I get you and I agree. Totally. The right holds Rittenhouse and the guy who killed the subway dude in such high regard they invite them to CPAC. Then they turn around and blame us for talking about the supposed reason behind Luigi’s murderous act.

[RavVid]

I don't think it helps to laud such actions.

[Anonymous]

You know, it's funny how someone will villify a human defending their own life, simply because they don't like him. Then go on and glorify someone who shoots an unarmed man in the back like a coward, without due process, just because they don't like the guy that was killed. It says a lot about the people that feel that way.

[Juxtapose]

^^ this.

[Dongie]

All day.

[OddBeMe]

Self defense shouldn't be placing yourself in danger and opening fire.

So maybe adjust the term more toward corporations

[Opinion Owner]

By your logic, rape victims deserve what they get if they put themselves in a risky situation.

It's the complete hypocrisy and lackbof consistency for me.

[Dongie]

He was helping to protect a friend's family's business from radical far left-wing outlaws and pedophiles. They messed with a 17 year old and got beat.

[OddBeMe]

Rape victims aren't completely to blame. But getting drunk at a frat house isn't 0% blameless

[Dongie]

He thinks guys have a right to rape if a girl doesn't conduct herself properly. DAMN!!

[OddBeMe]

@Dongie quite mentally deficient of you to analyze my comment that way. Are you mentally handicapped or just stupidly partisan?

[OddBeMe]

@Juxtapose funny how your tune changes on luigi in comparison

[Juxtapose]

The CEO wasn't directly responsible for the man's suffering so yeah, I changed my mind. I thought he would at least be smart enough to target someone who made a decision to fuck him over but noooooope lol.

The CEO was also going to testify against Nancy Pelosi so yeeeaaaah. This stinks.

[Juxtapose]

Even @msc545 will agree with me that if that CEO was not directly responsible, this was a tragedy.

[msc545]

I'm not sure I exactly agree, but I also am not sure that I agree that this was a tragedy for anyone but the person who was killed.

[msc545]

I like how Dongie makes up stuff that actually isn't true like the whole protecting a family friends business which is complete bullshit. Rittenhouse went to a place he had never been before and wound up killing people he didn't know and had never met before who weren't threatening him or anyone else. Rittenhouse just wanted to be a hero and he picked some random people to kill so he could be a hero. Oddly enough, it turns out that the asshole got his wish at least among the idiots on the right.

[Gwendoline]

@msc545 people are free to go where they want and violent mobs have no right to attack rittenhouse or anyone else. Rittenhouse did everything he could to avoid having to shoot. That violent mob had no right to attack and pursue rittenhouse

[Juxtapose]

@Gwendoline exactly 💯

[Dongie]

I do believe I heard on the need that it is the reason he was there asshat MSnbC545. I'm trying real hard to be nice now. You aren't helping by calling me a liar fuckhead!

[Dongie]

*news

[msc545]

Well, the fact of the matter is that in this particular instance you are a liar. You know he he had never been to that area or even that City before. Can you changed it so that you would somehow become more sympathetic. That is an outright lie and you are a liar.

[Dongie]

NO! Why would I have sympathy for a group of pedophiles and criminals who tried to kill a kid over politics? @MarjorieJ just had a very smart question in regards to the liberal mind concerning being for the killers and not the victims. You should go read it.

[msc545]

Oh I see. Now they are pedophiles. How the hell would you know that?

[msc545]

You just slander everybody you can when you are busily defending murderers don't you?

[Dongie]

Why don't you check out the dudes record, smart ass.

[Juxtapose]

@msc545 "Rittenhouse’s attorney, Mark Richards, filed a motion last Thursday seeking permission to use Joseph Rosenbaum‘s conviction for having sex with a minor in 2002 in his 18-year-old client’s upcoming murder trial."

nypost.com/.../

[Juxtapose]

Let me guess, just like Mosab being the son of one of the founders of Hamas, this is mysteriously bullshit too? 🤣

[Anonymous]

Rittenhouse defended himself after being attacked and pursued by a violent liberal mob some of whom were armed. It showed the importance of the right to bear arms.

[OddBeMe]

Could say that for luigi

[Opinion Owner]

No. you couldn't. Nobody came after lugi until he shot someone. Kyle was just minding his own buisness and even ran a literal mile to avoid assault

[OddBeMe]

Minding his own business out of town come to stand in a riot zone with an AR

[Opinion Owner]

Freedom of movement is a human right. He wasn't rioting. The fact is he needed an AR15 to defend himself

[OddBeMe]

Or what? He'd get punched?

[Opinion Owner]

Yes that's assault. He was also hit with a skateboard on the head, had a gun pulled on him and chased a mile.

[Juxtapose]

All he did was walk around with a weapon. That is not illegal.

[Anonymous]

yes there's a difference

Luigi looks like a handsome Chad and Kyle looks like a low testosterone beta male

yes that's right. looks do matter

if Luigi looked like Thomas Matthew Crooks and Brian Thompson was a woman, he'd be labeled the next Elliot Rodger

[msc545]

The difference is the Rittenhouse murdered two people that he didn't know as that did nothing wrong, and he went looking for trouble into a place full of trouble fully armed with the intent of shooting people.

Luigi killed one guy who was a mass murderer himself.

[seeyounexttuesday]

you seem sad your pedo buddy got unalived.

[exitseven]

Yes, there is a difference. Kyle Rittenhouse killed somebody in self defense. He shot somebody who was going to beat him to death with a skateboard. He never should have been arrested in the first place.
Luigi shot somebody in the back as he walked down the street. A cold blooded , pre meditated murder.

[msc545]

Bullshit. Rittenhouse was not assaulted or injured by anyone. He went looking for a fight, and he found one, and murdered two people.

[exitseven]

@msc545 Several videos would show just how wrong you are. He was on the ground and there was one of his attackers that was about to club him with a skateboard. His attacker was the one looking for a fight. He should have known that you don't bring a skateboard to a gun fight.

[msc545]

He tripped and fell. You cannot read the mind of a person near him by saying "He was about to attack him". You have no idea.

[exitseven]

@msc545 He was knocked down once and got back up He was not foing to be knocked down again.

[dustybiker2]

They are both disgusting but in ways understandable.

[Sevenpointfive]

why would they cheer or applaud luigi? that must have been an applause sign error on live. is biden going to do something about it too?

[beefcakebradybatson]

Rittenhouse and Mangione are both murderers (if Mangione is convicted, he'll be a slayer, NOT a member of that band !!!), but Rittenhouse killed someone protesting injustice, while Mangione took out one of America's top corporate criminals.

[goaded]

Yes, the CEO caused deaths for money. The others were shouty.

[OddBeMe]

Shittenhouse woulda got his ass beat. Doubt he'd a died.

[seeyounexttuesday]

I dont think the ceo of the insurance company was trying to kill Luigi

[OddBeMe]

Could argue shittenhouse woulda just had his ass beat.

[seeyounexttuesday]

So it’s great he exercised his right to self defense.

[OddBeMe]

It’s actually illegal to shoot someone who’d just beat you up. But hey, juries right?

[seeyounexttuesday]

You’re allowed to defend yourself when your life is in danger.

[OddBeMe]

Not when you freely stand in the middle of danger with a gun.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Interesting. We can just blame the victim from here on out? Do you do that with rape victims too? Well you shouldn’t have worn that skirt…

[OddBeMe]

Placing himself with a rifle in the middle of riot makes you not a victim

[seeyounexttuesday]

It does when someone tries to kill you with a skateboard. I know facts are a problem for you.

[OddBeMe]

Tries to kill you with a skateboard. Think about that.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Yes. I’ll gladly help you experiment and beat you with a skateboard.

[OddBeMe]

I can't defend those ahole rioters. But I won't defend rit or penny for killing in a non lethal situation

[OddBeMe]

I forgot to add lol. You did make me chuckle. :)

[seeyounexttuesday]

Again, let me take a couple of shots with a skateboard.

[OddBeMe]

Wouldn't kill me.

[seeyounexttuesday]

We’ll see.

[OddBeMe]

Funny a gun shoots a projectile almost the speed of light. Youd start coughing before you even broke skin.

[seeyounexttuesday]

I really think you’re retarded.

[OddBeMe]

My brother is retarded. Shouldn't use that negatively

[seeyounexttuesday]

Somehow he’s smarter than you.

[OddBeMe]

you're such a retard

[seeyounexttuesday]

And I’ll easily fuck you up with a skateboard. It’ll be the most satisfying beating I’ve ever given someone.

[OddBeMe]

You know why people enjoy violence?

[seeyounexttuesday]

Around you? Its your punchable face

[Dongie]

You can't tell the difference in self defense and premeditated murder?

[Dongie]

@MargerieJ, check this chuckle out.

[OddBeMe]

Premeditated... like traveling across a state line with a gun to stand in a riot?

[Yabbut]

You don't know?

[OddBeMe]

Apparently not

[DrPepper12]

Yes. Which bubble you're in

[noohair]

You are comparing a riot to an assassination?