Should men and women be equal in society 👨‍👩‍👧‍👦?

[Anonymous]

We’ve all seen the push to make men and women the same in society.

My personal stance is that it’s a recipe for failure. All of these western societies are dying, they’re ageing populations, relying on net migration. Low birth rates and will continue to decline sharp.

If you love your society and people you would respect evolutionary truths about men and women (men hunt and forage and women nurture and preserve) - so men go to work and the woman is submissive looking after the kids and the home.

I understand with the modern economy women need to work more but they compete with men which is g*y. Traditional marriages and beliefs preserve society. When women become good at being men they have no kids. Just a detriment to a culture and people.

Men and women should be the same

No men and women should be different

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1 y

The sharp decline is also due to the fact that if a woman become successful no men not even the successful ones (as women date up) want her. Women don’t respect their equals, they prove it time and time again!

Why do we encourage masculine qualities in women it’s repulsive.

People like Indians will takeover your countries as they are too smart, too hardworking and their women get the fact they need a top career but don’t deny their duty to be a partial stay at home wife having a few kids.

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If you analyse history, women got tricked into the workforce they didn’t even want to start working in the first place, they voted against it 🤡

The power of brainwashing

[Syntosi]

I dont see why not and that is not speaking from some sort of moral standpoint of equality. I do not see any meaningful functional difference between men and women. The whole thing about men going out to hunt and provide for the family while women nurtures was never true, but more importantly does not apply to modern society anyways so its a moot point.

In modern society what matters is mostly just decision making and decision making boils down to analyzing variables and extrapolating the correct response. As such the person themselves is virtually irrelevant. World leaders for example does not really make decisions as much as they simply react to the current situation and needs of their countries. Likewise with businesses or service staff or whatever.

As for the decline in birthrates? That is pretty much entirely down to capitalism and economic pressures. Capitalism is all about pressuring employees to become as productive as they can be and squeezing customers of as much money as they can. The result becomes that people are constantly exhausted and financially struggling which is not helping them become ready to raise children.

[Anonymous]

I don't think women are beneath me and I don't think other/foreign people groups are beneath me. I don't see a problem with immigrants helping with potential population and work needs from low birth rates. I don't think it's gay for a woman to be ambitious or for a man to love her. I also, you guessed it, don't think gay people are beneath me.

Basically, I do not agree with you on ANY point you try to make here.

[Ez-Bri-Z_v2]

Of course we should be equals. One doesn't work without the other, right? This idea that it has to be a man working and a woman staying home is asinine backwards thinking. Our role is not being reduced to a womb and a nanny. We can work. We can play sports. We can do many things that men can do.

So what if the birth rate goes down? We need less people on this earth anyway.

[Asker]

It’s not that it’s going down it’s that it will continue to plum it stressing resources and basically you will have people like Indians takeover your countries because their women work but realise they’re supposed to be actual women and have children and focus on raising.
If you’re fine with that then go ahead

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

The idea that women being equal to men somehow collapses society is a fallacy and paranoid propaganda spread by mediocre men who now realize that being financially stable isn’t enough to get them a wife like it was for their grandparents since grandma was not legally allowed to have her own bank account. There is an equal playing field now, and men hate it because they’re losing.

[Asker]

We’re not really losing are we? The ratio of male hyper successful men still increases and women graduate mostly out of useless degrees. Men are better at investing and building wealth so I don’t know what you’re talking about.

Men build everything without men in the workforce women can’t do anything so……. what delusion are you living in

[Sevenpointfive]

@CupcakeTheDestroyer you would not pass the test

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I don’t want to pass your test, I will happily die a single cat lady virgin lol

[Sevenpointfive]

when you see this as a valid reply that scares me. we genders aren't at war. i, and most of my gender want what's best for you. but it seems like they make it a war. like if you do good we can't do good. and vice/versa. do you feel me? i don't like that thinking. we are a collective mind and we should be rising together!

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

The society I live in is a patriarchy where decisions are actively made to harm and/or control women. If you want us to rise together, you and all your friends need to vote more women into politics so we have an even 50/50 split in the congressional, judiciary, and executive branches of government

[Sevenpointfive]

i don't think it's the gender that is the problem with politics because women and men are equally represented. it's politicians in general that are the problem

[CupcakeTheDestroyer]

I don’t think the abortion law would have passed in a government that was 80% female and 20% male, the opposite of my nation currently. And I’m not spending another week talking about this with you. Think what you like idc

[gowildcats007]

If you look at all the innovations that made societies good, they happened in societies that were open to change. Change was hard but needed. You're also wrong about why the "traditional" socieities are now doing better than they were. They are more open than they were.

Genders are equal. You're just promoting prejudice against women.

[Asker]

Men build everything, innovate basically everything women act like they provide so much value get real. You provide value to the world by having kids and looking after your hardworking man

[gowildcats007]

Nah a lot of the innovation that happened was partnered with women but the men took all the credit. Some men provide no value and you're an example. I hope any woman realizes to stay away.

[Asker]

Complete bullshit. How is that possible when most women were at home. Even today all the great innovators are all men. I can’t name a single female off the top of my head.

Even you don’t believe your fairytale

[Asker]

Get in the kitchen

[gowildcats007]

You have quite a mouth on you. Not worth respecting a "man" like you.

[Astarlessnightsky]

Men and women are naturally and evolutionary the same, the strict seperation in hunter/gatherer, caretake at home/breadwinner, warrior/staying at home... are fairly modern inventions of the 19th century.

[RiseofArtemis]

Equal in rights and expectations and equaly cared for. But they need clear sides on the part of being Parents when they have children so the children grow up as functioning adults and know what to do.

[AviatorTom]

Men and Women ARE different. We are doomed to fail if we try to make them equal.

EQUAL OPPORTUNITY, when qualified... now that is something that we can, and should, do for Men and Women.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Just a little 🤏

[Miristheiss]

They are treated equal under the law. Case closed.

Except in divorce court and family law where they are treated special.

[chrissykerdock]

it's a tough concept since we're not the same like should men be in women's sports

[Anonymous]

yeah they should be equally responsible for the world's problems too

[John_Cobretti]

Egalitarianism is cancer.

[John_Cobretti]

"Woman is submissive looking after the kids and the home."
See what they have done? People subconsciously believe that a female homemaker is inferior and a trad system is not "equal". Taking care of home and kids is oppressed but making presentations for your male boss for 60k a year is empowering.

[Asker]

That’s big facts.

All the stats say the countries are failing and they still support it

[John_Cobretti]

Cook brother, cook.
Good luck dealing with the losers who are gonna thrash this question though.

[Anonymous]

Until someone can define in detail what "equality" between the sexes actually means, they should not even be advocating for it.

[Dongie]

Women get so many breaks. It's not fair!