How come liberals only pick on women and the elderly?

[exitseven]

Whenever a liberal protester confronts a conservative it is always either a woman or an elderly person. They never will pick on somebody who would fight back. Here is another coward.

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It has been brought to my attention that we do not know the political leanings of the Tesla Owner. This is true. However, Tesla owners are now on the liberal hit list and will be treated as badly as they treat conservatives.

[WhiteSteve]

Elon Musk is an enemy of the American people (he’s apparently wearing sheep’s clothing to a lot of people, but they’ll see eventually) and deserves every bit of the scrutiny and negative publicity he’s receiving. What the current administration is up to, anyone who truly loves America should not be supporting. We are becoming an exponentially worse place to live with every passing day. Anybody fighting against this regime is an American hero, in my eyes, and a TRUE patriot.

That’d said… Vandalism is not the answer, though, nor confronting random citizens. Liberals need to understand this is a major part of the playbook for the right wing: do absolutely insane shit, and then when somebody finally snaps and does something drastic, they flip the whole thing on its head and start crying about “tHe ViOLeNt LeFt”, which is an absolute fucking crock. You guys call left-wingers pussies 23 hours out of the day, and switch up for the 24th hour if it suits your narrative.

I think left wingers need to focus their energy on other things. Most Tesla owners hadn’t bought their Teslas yet when Elon went off the rails. Most Tesla owners I know of personally CAN’T WAIT for their lease to be up, and want to switch to something else. (Reviews of the car with all the other hubbub out of it, Tesla seems to make a mediocre car, which I’ve also been hearing since before Elon took his mask off.)

Anyway…. no problems, just solutions….

[TraderJoe]

Are you planning on torching anyone's cars? Would that make you feel like a real man?

[WhiteSteve]

@TraderJoe clearly you either didn’t make it past the first paragraph or you lack reading comprehension. I EXPLICITLY said I don’t endorse vandalism.
But one can only dream to achieve the manliness levels of storming the Capitol building because a con man tricked you into thinking an election was stolen though, right?

[TraderJoe]

What should happen to these terrorists?

[WhiteSteve]

@TraderJoe whatever the penalties on the books are for torching a car🤷‍♂️ I mean, it’s arson, I’d imagine that’s a felony

[TraderJoe]

Would you be ok with vigilante Justice?

[WhiteSteve]

@TraderJoe I’m very anti-vigilante justice as a general rule. One thing that’s become apparent to me about human beings as I’ve gotten older: most people are fucking retards who can’t be trusted to be left to their own devices and just allowed to do whatever they feel is right for themselves. We don’t have the required quality of people to trust that. Most people are selfish and operate only based on “what’s best for ME”, and that is the antithesis of “society.”

I don’t generally trust our police to dispense justice properly, rando civilians are even worse of an idea. America has a “people problem” more than anything. Americans are of low-quality and low-character, by and large.

[TraderJoe]

Too chicken shit to answer the question?

[WhiteSteve]

@TraderJoe I mean…. I thought I did. I just gave you two full paragraphs on why I oppose vigilante justice. You should be able to infer that that’s universal.

That’s twice now…. are you ok, bro?

[TraderJoe]

Writing a wall of words does not make you an intellect. Sorry to burst your bubble.

A handicapped woman had her Tesla keyed to the tune of $7,000 in damages.

If it were up to you, what would a He-Man like you choose for his punishment?

[WhiteSteve]

@TraderJoe no, but getting an education does. Like I learned that it makes me an “intellectUAL”, not an “intellect.” Free lesson👍

I had my Blazer keyed with “Fuck you” AND had the back window smashed out back in my 20s. Probably thousands in damages, but that’s what I pay insurance for. It cost me $500. I paid many more thousands over the years to that insurance company, never got any money back when years passed WITHOUT a claim, so my conscience is clean there too.

Why are you calling me He-Man? I’m just Prince Adam, bro, a regular guy. I don’t think I said any “tough guy” shit, so I’m not sure why this is your energy. Anyway…. I’m not involved in law enforcement or the justice system. Not my pig, not my farm. I’m not here to referee crime and punishment. We have a system that has many flaws, but overall does a good enough job that I I trust it enough to know that I’m totally unqualified to opine on it, that wasn’t my field of study.

[TraderJoe]

The judicial system refers to the branch of government that interprets the law and applies it to specific legal cases. It is responsible for resolving disputes and ensuring that the law is followed fairly. The judicial system typically consists of courts at various levels, from local courts to the highest court in the land, which in the United States is the Supreme Court.

Judges and justices make decisions on legal cases by applying existing laws and precedents. The decisions made by the judicial system can have a significant impact on society, as they can set new legal precedents and shape the interpretation of the law.

[TraderJoe]

Vigilantism is the act of taking the law into one's own hands, outside of the established legal system. This can involve actions such as citizens' arrests, neighborhood watch patrols, or even violent retribution against perceived criminals or wrongdoers.

Vigilantism is generally frowned upon by the authorities, as it bypasses the established legal process and can lead to chaos and violence. It is often fueled by a sense of frustration with the perceived inadequacies of the justice system, but it is important to remember that taking matters into one's own hands can have serious consequences and lead to further harm and injustice.

[TraderJoe]

The three branches of government are the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches. They are the cornerstone of the United States' system of checks and balances, which aims to ensure that no single branch of government becomes too powerful.

Here's a quick overview of each branch:

Executive Branch: The President, Vice President, and Cabinet are the leaders of the Executive branch. They are responsible for enforcing laws and carrying out the day-to-day running of the government.

Legislative Branch: The Congress, which includes the Senate and the House of Representatives, makes laws and allocates federal funding.

[exitseven]

@WhiteSteve Insane shit like what? Securing the border? Lowering gas prices? Cutting taxes?, Stopping the war in Ukraine? Deport illegal aliens? We had 4 long years of wondering what was going to get screwed up next? Now we have a president that is trying to solve the problems that Americans voted for him to fix. He has been doing so many things it is hard to keep track of it all.

[WhiteSteve]

@TraderJoe I didn’t say I didn’t take 6th grade Social Studies, lmfao. I’m saying I don’t have higher education in legal stuff. So anything I say on that would be words in the wind. If I didn’t study it in college, I try to know my place

[TraderJoe]

Why did you post a pink picture of Elon? What was your message?

[WhiteSteve]

This is shaping up as the most disastrous First 100 Days the nation has ever seen. I know you live on Earth 2, but back here at home on Earth 1: he’s started idiotic, nonsensical trade wars and clearly has no idea how to correctly employ tariffs, resulting in damaged formerly-friendly international relationships, and a tanking stock market and recession fears, after inheriting a fairly-strong and positively-trending economy that Trump himself was taking credit for pre-election, and now that it’s gone south after he’s taken office, it’s suddenly because of Joe Biden again; he’s destroyed our diplomatic alliances to the point where I’m not sure who would have our backs in a conflict and if we’re even on the side of “good” anymore; he’s historically bungling the Ukraine situation and is making us like like huge pussies, capitulating to the obvious bad guy in the situation…. a lot of 80-something year old skeletons in Arlington Cemetery are spinning in their graves right now.

[WhiteSteve]

I heard we had 20 million people here or something, and if they were making substantial progress, we’d be hearing about the huge numbers at every turn. Instead, it’s like double or triple digit numbers. The whole thing was never a Top 5 issue for me anyway, most of those people are absolutely harmless. But if you’re gonna do it, DO IT. And just silently do it, don’t do stupid photo-ops in front of brown dudes with a lot of tattoos to scare old white people, lmfao. Make me believe it’s not for the show of it and the applause from xenophobes.

Christ…. what else? He’s been fucking up so much it’s hard to keep track of it all. Oh yeah, of course the current fiasco that we’re being told is no big deal, but no one from “the most transparent administration ever” will answer questions about it directly, and luckily the journalist was smart, let them play themselves and lie, THEN told us the rest of what was shared with him, going directly against said lies. And there’s no accountability, no apologies, no heads rolling…. just counter-accusations and sloughing off of responsibility for it. It’s never them, it’s always someone else.

Gas is like 20 cents cheaper, big whoop. I’m not willing to live in a dumpster fire for cheap gas. I haven’t heard of any tax cuts, but the common denominator of the problem here is that we have people behaving like toddlers when asked to pay their taxes. I need everyone to grow up, be an adult, stop complaining, and pay your goddamn taxes. We can’t keep going in circles over this🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[WhiteSteve]

@TraderJoe the premise of the joke is two-headed.

It’s mainly about the unprecedented and highly questionable situation where the world’s richest man gave a quarter of a billion dollars to help the campaign of an elected President, and he immediately is given a role (official or unofficial, it seems to change with the breeze) in the government, heading a task force to analyze government agency/bureau spending, but with the intent of mostly dismantling our government as we’ve known it in the modern era, which, for all its flaws, was working fine and helping to make America the great country it already was before Trump came on the scene. Factor in that Elon is dealing with agencies that either were regulatory in nature and had been pressing him with investigations, or ones that provide some service that one of his businesses could step in and replace under a government contract. Simply put: this guy is dripping with conflict of interest, and people who carry an aggressively “anti-woke” mindset are pretty objectively shitty people who would be the last ones I want deciding what qualifies as “inefficiency.”

[WhiteSteve]

@TraderJoe So…. Elon has bought his way into a very prominent role in the White House. And it’s kind of funny because I can tell Trump doesn’t totally Iike it, but he knows this is a debt he owes to him for getting him elected and keeping him out of all the legal trouble he created for himself (which is the entire reason he ran in ‘24, to get the legal heat off him). He hates anyone thinking that he’s not in complete control and that not everyone kisses his ass. He’s an egomaniac, so that’s super important to him. Anyway, Elon is being called the First Lady because he’s so close with Trump in this administration.

And the second prong of the joke relates to that, as the REAL First Lady seems to be trapped in a marriage of convenience, and is probably being very well taken care of so she sticks around and stays somewhat on the team. She could probably sink him with a tell-all book. And she just seems anywhere from half-hearted to miserable when she’s with him, so the suggestion is that Trump is closer to Musk than his wife.

If I designed them, Musk would be President, and Donny Smallhands is the First Lady, lmao

[TraderJoe]

Are you gay?

[WhiteSteve]

@TraderJoe I am not, sir. Why do you inquire?

[beefcakebradybatson]

The late, great George Carlin observed this of his compatriots,"Think of how dumb the average American is, and realize HALF are dumber !!!"

[beefcakebradybatson]

Not to mention fugly ala their Peerless Leader !!!

[beefcakebradybatson]

Trader Joe's IQ and my chest size are FORTY-FIVE !!!

[beefcakebradybatson]

Trump can't fix his lunch, let alone REAL problems !!!11

[TraderJoe]

I wish the news would stop warning these dick heads that tesla's have eight external cameras videoing their surroundings.
This morning on fox and friends, they showed a video of a guy keying a disabled woman's Tesla. The whole thing was caught on video. The cops already know who the shit head is. The woman is wheelchair bound, and apparently tesla's are easier for her to get into than other cars. The estimation for the damage is 7,000 dollars. She did nothing wrong! Kind citizens have stepped up and offered to pay for the damage. She's refusing the generous offers, because she says only one person needs to pay for it. I hope someone doxes him, so people can serves up some vigilante Justice.

[Apulu_backagain]

Because they know that if they argue with someone who will reply back, they'll be destroyed as they themselves don't know well about their beliefs. They chose liberism to purely be a 'rebel' and pick a fight with everyone. They always look for elderly person or submissive women or men. I have seen adult liberals picking up on literal teenagers, like 12 year olds who don't know what they are doing or even the word liberal in political terms.

Personally I believe I'm a liberal but I never go on and have personal beef with everyone, not with elderly people especially. Because those elderly people, they believed a certain thing for their whole life, a young person who looks dumb in their eyes comes and tells them that everything they believed their whole life is wrong, they'll be depressed or angry about that till they die. I mean they're in their last stage as it is and they aren't significantly contributing to society anymore, picking an argument with them is useless unless they're open to new ideas.

I don't have problems with other people's belief unless they're using it as an excuse to hurt someone. Few liberals are like that.

And tesla thing is stupid, because what if someone bought their car before this controversy?

[beefcakebradybatson]

Learn to spell (you misspelled "liberal") before posting your righty BS, boyo !!!

[TrueConfection]

Meh, whatever. Let the crazies eat their own. Those Tesla drivers worshiped Musk until he became a Trump supporter. I’ll bet that woman and her kids participated in the pussy hat protests, the forced masks and lockdowns, and of course we know she is a global warming alarmist who probably wants all the cows destroyed for fear of their flatulence. I’ll just sit back and watch the sh** show.

[exitseven]

Yes, I sort of misspoke when I said she was a conservative. The truth is I have no idea. She should have run that nit wit down. she could say that they guy was wearing camo and was wearing a mask. Maybe I saw a gun. I panicked and hit the gas instead of the brake, then I accidently backed over him by accident.

[TrueConfection]

That’s what I would have done, but leftists want these kinds of road blocks by violent “protestors” to be legal. Remember all the states that tried to pass legislation that would have kept her out of prison if she had kept driving in order to protect herself and her children? I wonder how many EV enthusiasts supported the stopping of those bills.

Anyhow, I think a lot of people are mistaking Elon as a conservative and the drivers of his cars as conservative voters.

[TrueConfection]

Thanks for the MHO 🩷

[Tamera952]

How come some people ask rhetorical, skewed, or insanely asinine ‘questions’ that are actually more like a stupid statement; with an assumption or their bias built into it—or offer silly ANECDOTAL example of something, trying to say something is a ‘thing’ when it so clearly isn’t a ‘thing’?

[exitseven]

The only time that a liberal ever picked on somebody besides a woman or an elderly person was when they picked on Kyle Rittenhouse and we all know how that ended for them.

[OddBeMe]

At least we’re not trying to take away her welfare.

[ProbablyClueless]

Hell yeah you are. What do you call letting biological men into women's prisons, bathrooms, and other safe spaces? What is THAT if not taking away her welfare?

[OddBeMe]

@ProbablyClueless you're assuming trans are as violent as you.

[ProbablyClueless]

A number of mass shooters have been trans, so let's not pretend that these people are less violent. But in any case, that totally ignores the fact that prison populations select for violent tendencies (that's why they're in prison).

[goaded]

@ProbablyClueless I guess one is a number.

[OddBeMe]

@ProbablyClueless cough (bullshit). There have been 4400 mass shootings in the last decade and 10 have been trans. Care to revise?

www.reuters.com/.../

[ProbablyClueless]

Nope. Because trans people also make up 0.6% the total population. 10 mass shootings out of 4400 is 0.27%. Seeing how the NIH estimates that only 1% of the total population is responsible for around 63% of violent crime convictions (https://pmc. ncbi. nlm. nih. gov/articles/PMC3969807/ ); I'd say that 0.6% of the population causing 0.27% of the mass shootings makes trans people a disproportionately large contributor to the incidence of violent crimes.

[goaded]

@ProbablyClueless Did you skip maths at school a lot?

[OddBeMe]

Besides that…. you found one site that polled adults. Other sites suggest 5% of teens and adults.

www.pewresearch.org/.../

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded That's not skipping maths at all? If trans people aren't anymore violent than other people, their rates of violent behavior would be consistent with other groups'. These numbers don't reflect that.

@OddBeMe What's your point?

[goaded]

@ProbablyClueless No, the numbers don't reflect that. YOUR numbers say they're less than half as likely as other people to commit mass shootings, and your numbers are off by a factor of about 3 (it's 1.6%, not 0.6%), so they're six times less likely.

Your red herring with the 1% of people committing most crime doesn't apply to mass shootings because there has never been and never will be a serial mass shooter. (And it was Sweden.)

[OddBeMe]

@ProbablyClueless 10 out of 1.6 million trans people is.000625%

That’s the violence level of trans people.

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded @OddBeMe Everything you're saying speaks more and more strongly to my point. Set aside your dogma and egos for a minute. A relatively small group of the population is going to have a proportionately small contribution to something like mass shootings or violent crime in general. No matter how you misapply the statistical data available to you, that comparably small impact isn't being reflected. The exact opposite is being reflected.

[goaded]

@ProbablyClueless Let's go through this again with simplified numbers.

Say 5 in every 100 people in general do something, but only 1 in every 100 in a subgroup do that something, too.

That means the subgroup is 5 times LESS LIKELY to do the thing than the general population.

If it's mass shootings, they're LESS VIOLENT.

Trans people are six times LESS LIKELY than everyone else to do what you're claiming they do more of. You are wrong.

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded That's not how numbers work 🤣

[goaded]

@ProbablyClueless That's exactly how numbers work. Trans people are less likely to commit mass shootings than people in general. Will you now say that women are more likely to commit a mass shooting because some shooters were women? 97.7% of mass shooters were men.

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded No, I would not say that. The mistake you're making is that you're cross referencing the wrong datasets. It's true that mass shooters and violent offenders are predominately men, but that's not relevant because we already keep men out of women's spaces. We aren't even worried about transpeople in men's spaces. We're questioning whether transgender people should be allowed in women's spaces. So the relevant question is whether transpeople are more prone to violence than women. This data indicates that they are.

Let's say that out of the remaining percentage of non-male shooters (2.3%), 2.2-ish% are women (just to keep the math simple). Men and women make up roughly the same proportions of the total population, which is about 49% each. Trans people make up 0.6% of the population, but you claim it's actually 1.6, so I'll go with that, for the sake of talking.

According to Odd's data, 10 of 4400 shootings have been committed by trans people. Divide 10 by 4400, and then multiply 100 for the percentage of 0.227%.

So you have 49% of the human population committing 2.2% of mass shootings and 1.6% of the human population committing 0.23%. If you were to balloon those numbers out to reflect what trans people would be doing if they made up 49% of the population the way women do; they'd be committing 7% of the mass shootings.

[goaded]

@ProbablyClueless Word salad, followed by claiming trans people are more dangerous than women. Give it up.

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded That wasn't word salad at all. That shit was crisp and concise. And it was backed up by statistics. I'm a regular Henry Thoreau.

Kiss the ring, my German friend.

[goaded]

@ProbablyClueless This isn't word salad? "The mistake you're making is that you're cross referencing the wrong datasets. It's true that mass shooters and violent offenders are predominately men, but that's not relevant because we already keep men out of women's spaces. We aren't even worried about transpeople in men's spaces. We're questioning whether transgender people should be allowed in women's spaces. So the relevant question is whether transpeople are more prone to violence than women. This data indicates that they are."

Why are you talking about "women's spaces", with regards to mass shootings?

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded Because that was the original claim that started this conversation. Odd's original answer said "at least we aren't taking away [women's] welfare." I replied "What do you call letting biological men into women's prisons, bathrooms, and other safe spaces? What is THAT if not taking away her welfare?"

I don't think much of anyone has a problem with trans people existing. But their existence doesn't need to come at the expense of jeopardizing women's wellbeing.

[goaded]

@ProbablyClueless Get out of here! You said "0.6% of the population causing 0.27% of the mass shootings makes trans people a disproportionately large contributor to the incidence of violent crimes." HELLO! 0.27% < 0.6%

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded When compared to 49% that causes 2.2%? Yeah, that's huge. That's important context.

[goaded]

@ProbablyClueless Like I said, you lied that trans people were more violent than the normal population, now you've moved to claiming they commit more mass shootings than women. You're a liar.

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded What you said was objectively wrong and I've proven it. Does the German healthcare system cover talk therapy? I suggest you book a visit. I hate to see you in this kind pain...

[goaded]

@ProbablyClueless OMG, you can't do maths, and you're claiming I'm wrong.

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded Seek help. One (that's the word form of the NUMERAL "1," which comes after zero, or "0") day, you'll be able to come to terms with what's happened here. I hope you can grow from this.

[goaded]

@ProbablyClueless OK, unless you can come up with a reason why I shouldn't in the next couple of hours, you're going to be the fourth person on here I've blocked, because you can't admit reality, even when it's simple maths.

[ProbablyClueless]

@goaded The reason you shouldn't block me is because our the problem had nothing to number functions; it was about the methodological approach. I demonstrated why I think the numbers you based your maths on was following the wrong approach. I think you were cross referencing and comparing incorrect datasets.

You can still reach an incorrect solution doing proper math if you're using the wrong inputs.

[OddBeMe]

@goaded hard to argue with retards who disregard science.

[goaded]

And maths. Quite.

[Dongie]

I want to know what the liberals on here think about this behavior. Do they think this is OK? Sane? I say the ones that survive get 20 years to contemplate their twisted actions.

[Dongie]

Oh, I may go out and buy one so I can get some.

[Surely]

Someday that little Old Lady or the Soccer Mom will be packing a 38 or 9mm. Then the brave Musk haters might consider to behave themselves. After all. I am told that there are 9 cameras in places around the Tesla!

[beefcakebradybatson]

Nice try. White supremacist Tea Party supporters beat up elderly Civil Rights icon Rep. John Lewis, the Boy from Troy, Ga.

[Manuelwe]

Because they do for free what capitalism charge for

[Hellraiser1984]

Why do conservative protesters break into places and get themselves killed by police and security? Why are most of them angry racist anti semitic whites with low IQ?

[slatyb]

there are assholes on both sides, but the red hats have been far more violent

[AviatorTom]

To quote the great philosopher Forrest Gump: "Stupid is as Stupid Does."

[oldpigg]

I don't care, I'm not simp, nor do I defend women.

[Anonymous]

Where is the proof that woman is conservative?

[exitseven]

there is no proof. in fact we do not know. All we know s that she owns a Tesla, Tesla owners are on the liberal hit list too.

[Opinion Owner]

Then perhaps don't be purposely misleading. "Whenever a liberal protester confronts a conservative"

[Staximus]

Because they are like coyotes, they only go after easy targets that can't kill them

[SmokinAces2000]

Are you asking a serious question or just trying to elicit a certain response?

[sage2021]

Because isn't that what bully's do?