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Trade War: America vs China. Who do you think will win?

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  • Jersey2
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    The US is the largest open market in the world. And the world took advantage of that. The US is a huge market for China. They are going to lose access to this huge market. The US is china’s biggest customer. They won’t do well when cut off. Conversely, China limits the US in sales so it won’t hurt as much for the US. China loses.

    Vietnam will have 0% tariffs for the US and factories from China will move there. China loses.

    Global firms will realize that they must diversify their supply base from heavy reliance on China no matter what happens now China loses.

    China produced little 25 years ago and those factories can move again China will have economic unrest in their populace. China loses.

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    • DrPepper12
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      Every word wrong

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    • Avicenna
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      @DrPepper12: Marxist Pepper loves the CCP- shocker!

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    • WhiteBoyChill
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      Exactly man. And I’ve literally already seen interviews of factory owners in China saying they’re pretty much absolutely fcked and there’s nowhere they can send their orders.

      People seem to have this weird idea that they can just replace the US market

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    • Jersey2
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      @drpepper12so let’s begin then. First, you are saying that the US is not China’s biggest customer? Is that correct?

      It is easy to verify.

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    • Jersey2
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      @DrPepper12 typo

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    • Dargil
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      @DrPepper12 Because you say so?

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  • Lynx122
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    China is winning of course. The U. S. is already overdue for a recession even before the tariffs. And the U. S. has antagonized not just China but every country on the planet except Russia and Belarus.

    It's too soon for China to actually take over but trust me they're loving every second of this. The damage from the tariffs is nothing compared to the shift in sentiment and trust towards the U. S. And China has a huge amount of U. S. Bonds.

    They just need to wait until they feel like they're prepared. Until they feel like they can handle a drop in U. S. demand for their goods and they're ready to take on more responsibility.

    Then they can sell the bonds at the right time when there's already a crisis going on and push the dollar off a cliff. Right now it's too early so they'll just wait and watch but one day it won't be too early. Trump is bringing that day a lot closer with every step he's taking.

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    • DrPepper12
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      Correct. China plans in centuries, not quarterly earnings or midterm elections.

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    • Dargil
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      @DrPepper12 General Patton Planned on winning each battle and didn't I think much about the outcome of the war. Tiger Woods is the same way He wins by the stroke not the hole or the game.

      You do not tell your opponent what cards you have in your hand. you conceal them until you show. That is what President Trump is doing he has a plan And he's not going to tell you what it is.

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    • exitseven
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      China's economy has been in a tailspin for a while and President Trump knows this. Meanwhile a hundred countries have contacted the White House wanting to negotiate better trade deals.
      China has already lost the trade war. I am not sure that they realize it or not.

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  • wynning
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    The cream of the crop from both countries who can ride the wave. On an organized level, China has the unitarian control over its commodities that the US cannot build up as easily as a collective. I think it'd depend on which country can outdo self-sufficiency

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  • purplepoppy
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    In a trade war you seek out other markets to make up for one's you've lost. The problem is the USA is attacking everyone while China is seeking out new markets, most likely the ones Trump has pissed off.

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  • lightbulb27
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    USA short term China long term.

    China will do what they always do... agree, and cheat..."slowly squeeze the prey"... it is the year of the snake.

    https://stacker.com/stories/world/timeline-us-trade-relations-china

    Trump is temporary and there isn't much of anyone to replace that denacity when he's gone. They just have to weather the storm. So they will cut a deal... they are not stupid, or rash and will avoid a fight. They might instigate and test. There could be threats around Taiwan as they continue to constrict it.

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  • Zack-Bann
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    China has no moral issues with using child labor to lower production cost and make prices way more competitive


    Pound for pound I would say it has an edge


    Historically the US stayed in the fight by using media influence
    American movies, shows, video games flooded the rest of the world and every kid wanted to wear a leather biker jacked and cowboy boots among other American products


    These days the US propaganda machine is focusing on a niche audience and losing the general population which isn’t doing them any favors


    But they can still turn this around


    Once the pockets hurt enough they will give in

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  • SolitarySolace
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    America wins in the long run—not just because we import more from China, but because under Trump’s leadership, we’re finally pushing back on decades of unfair trade practices.

    Tariffs aren’t about chaos—they’re about leverage. China has relied on the U. S. market for years while manipulating currency, exploiting labor, and flooding our supply chains. Trump’s trade stance forces them to the table and brings manufacturing back home, where it belongs.

    It’s not about winning a war—it’s about restoring balance and protecting our future.

    - Eva ❤️

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  • Fireguy17
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    The US, we have the grain, the raw materials that China needs, scrap iron, taconite, coal, and other things they do not have enough of.
    Every year ships come into Duluth to load grain, corn and wheat to go to China and other countries. Plus, the fact that you take 2 to 300 billion dollars out of their economy they will be hurting in no time.
    We have more than enough of everything to suit our needs, otherwise why would be sending so much of it overseas?

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    • DrPepper12
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      False.

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    • Fireguy17
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      @DrPepper12 true

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  • Anonymous
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    The US. China exports to the US but doesn't import that much and has levied tariffs on us goods for decades favouring their own domestic goods, the EU does the same. Free trade only works if everyone is doing the same.

    Trade War: America vs China. Who do you think will win?
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  • QuestionObsession
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    Of course China. It is the manufacturing hub of the world. USA cannot compete. USA has been a dumb greedy twat for the last 30 years letting China manufacturer everything for cheap, outsoursing has come back to bite the fat bitch in the ass. USA is going down for the first time.

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  • BonzoInBitburg
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    No one is going to win. The US is only 15% of Chinese all exports and other countries will step in and buy Chinese products. Their government can manipulate their economy to make up that 15% drop in exports and they'll be able to hold out longer.

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  • sawno
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    I expect the US to win because they import a lot. Usually the importer is the strongest. That said china is a special case since they have manufacturing monopolies on stuff so that may have more severe damage on the US than a normal tarif would. So I do give the US the edge but with less certainty.

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  • OneViewpoint
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    Everyone loses. Why go through a trade war? The Chinese have goals. The US has goals. Why not work together and make compromises? All economies benefit. Show leadership rather than stupidity.

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    • DrPepper12
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      He does not understand comparative advantage. He is a criminal fool.

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    • Avicenna
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      @DrPepper12: You definitely don’t understand comparative advantage. Where does the US currently enjoy comparative advantage with China?

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    • DrPepper12
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      Services. Tech. Education. Fashion. Entertainment. Military. Agri-biz. Tourism. Culinary. Financial.

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  • exitseven
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    The USA. The US imports a lot more from China than China imports from the US. Th biggest share of US exports is soybeans. The biggest share of Chinese exports is cell phones.

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    • DrPepper12
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      One question: What happens when they sit out our treasury auctions?

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    • Avicenna
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      @DrPepper12 what percentage of US Treasurys does China currently hold?

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    • exitseven
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      @Avicenna I am thinking that Trump will make China take a haircut on the trade deficit as a down payment on the money they owe the US and the rest of the world for starting a pandemic that costs the US trillions.

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    • Avicenna
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      They should indeed be forced to pay reparations for all the damage COVID caused.

      In the past, the CCP would buy a few things when trade matters were under discussion (pre-WTO), but any promises to buy more things are useless and unenforceable, so it needs to be something different.

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  • douride2
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    Well with the tariffs on Chinese imports either the us. will pay more or go without. The dementia laden guy has pissed off almost everyone. The us. is pretty much screwed. Oh yea one more thing I here the Chinese hold a whole lot of us. loans.

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    • douride2
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      One more thing I wish everyone would stop saying America. America is a continent. It's the US that is pissing people off.

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  • Shiprex
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    China more population, serves individual citizens better without a ridiculous disparity and isn't run for individuals to benefit over the collective

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  • Mac-One
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    America will win. America needs China's products until they can bring production back or resource them. However needs America to support it's economy. Trump will negotiate a new trade deal.

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  • Itsa85mf
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    Everyone will lose, all counties will scramble to get products for other countries and it will take years to re establish former trade partners

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    • Paige90
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      @Itsa85mf counties?

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    • Itsa85mf
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      @Paige90 very one the US trades with

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  • AviatorTom
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    No one wins in a trade war. Trade wars end when both sides surrender.

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  • NathanDavis m
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    the richest of the people... as usual...

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  • Still-alive
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    Trump is a scared whiny shithead. he'll fold eventually. its important EVERY person stands up to him. he's just a bully and when you stand up to bullies they back down.

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  • MrChinaski
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    They will both lose. Arguably they both already have lost. I'm an economist. That is my professional opinion.

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    • MrChinaski
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      One of the issues that Trump and his advisers seem oblivious to is what Charles de Gaulle coined as 'The exorbitant privilege': The fact that since 1945 the USA has been able to issue unlimited amounts of Federal debt and countries have bought it as the global reserve currency. Erratic economic policies risk the willingness of other countries to buy US Treasury bills. If that were to happen, it would do more damage to the US economy than China ever has,

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  • Kelley1
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    We both lose, but since they are smarter, China will lose less.

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  • billyboy197747
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    China will win. How tariffs work is that the importer paus the tariff and he increases his proce to make up for the money he lost on paying for the tariffs and then we pay more.

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  • genericname85
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    China. Not even close. Cause who depends on who? China doensn't need america but america desparately needs china.

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  • Aiko_E_Lara
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    China can easily manipulate their labor force for cheap labor though so of course China is more efficient when it comes to that.

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  • Anonymous
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    China, most stuff will pass via lower tariff nations to stick on on Donny, I support him but I can call out clear delusion regardless of political sides

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  • tfan1
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    Similar to Wargames only its money not nuclear weapons

    WINNER: NONE

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  • Anonymous
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    I don't know, probably China, they are ancient civilization with lots of political experience.

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  • Iron_Man u
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    they won’t budge nothing will happen Just like Mexico didn’t pay for the wall

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  • LiamJHayden
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    Don't know. I'm just trying to time the dip so I can make some serious money.

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  • Jerre
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    No doubt in my mind that USA/President Trump will win

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    • Jerre
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      @thegreenyogi Thank you for the Like

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    • Paige90
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      I agree!

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    • DrPepper12
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      If you have no doubt you have no mind.

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  • McLlovin
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    China economy has already collapsed. And the Chinese business people are crying murder. Yet USA stocks are up

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    • Miristheiss
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      Well, we won't know how this truly turns out until a lot of time has passed and we can measure how the results panned out.
      We don't yet know if this ends up being wise or foolish are just a wash 50/50 in the middle. China has cheated a lot and it is overdue for someone to stand up against them and demand fairness and for the WTO rules to be followed.
      Too early for any winner/loser to be named.

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  • Yohenis
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    The usa will crush china we are the global economy we run everything.

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  • ABC1x1x
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    China has absolutely no leverage. They are holding a pair of 2's.

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  • Twalli
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    1 on 1, the US has the advantage, yet China won't be alone against us. We'll lose.

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  • blackeagle007
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    We will have a problem if this does escalate

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    • DrPepper12
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      *when. Trump just doubles down & insults louder

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    • blackeagle007
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      @DrPepper12 He’s someone full of riddles and a Joker. If that makes you and I Batman, shit I’d welcome that. 🤣

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  • KulTigin
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    Noboby wins. Both China and the US force the entire world to a huge bankruptcy. So, only poor countries will be big losers.

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  • WhiteBoyChill
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    US. We take in like 4x as much stuff from China than we send them

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  • Mia03
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    China cause they’ll trade with other countries around the world.

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    • Avicenna
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      They already do that

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    • Mia03
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      @Avicenna yes but now they’ll become richer.

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    • Avicenna
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      How so?

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    • Mia03
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      @Avicenna cause it won’t be as expressive for the rest of the world. Our cell phones our made in China same as Tablet.

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    • Avicenna
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      So you’re saying China will sell more to the rest of the world even if they take some hits on trade with the US due to tariffs because they’ll cut prices due to lower demand for their products?

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    • Mia03
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      @Avicenna Yes, and there be a “better depression.”

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    • Avicenna
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      That’s assuming there are no macroeconomic changes in other countries, which I wouldn’t assume.

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  • Vegasrunner
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    China, they don't need to worry about moral issues and their citizens are unarmed

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  • DryGermanGuy m
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    As it stands to develop now, nobody.

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  • 4ngelic
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    hurts to say it but i think china

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  • contentious
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    You can't be serious...

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  • Grond21
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    America is holding almost all the cards

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    • DrPepper12
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      Do tell!

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    • Grond21
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      They depend on our trade and military protection far more than we do them

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    everyone will lose - because it's dumb

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  • DrPepper12
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    Neither. No one wins trade wars. No one.

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  • msg321
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    I hope America.

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  • bralesswonder
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    There are no winners in war

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  • grega239
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    America most likely.

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    • DrPepper12
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      Nope

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  • pacificopete
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    Ultimately America will win.

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    • DrPepper12
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      No. Just no

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    • pacificopete
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      I would debate you but it wouldn't seem fair. You're probably the most childish person on this site.

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  • Sono83
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    China- we get too much stuff from them.

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  • Surely
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    Whomever blinks first will loose!

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    Whoever submits first.

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    The 1%

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    Wait for it...

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  • RedInnocent69
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    China. Hands down.

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  • seeyounexttuesday
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    The US.

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    • DrPepper12
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      No way

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    • seeyounexttuesday
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      @DrPepper12 lol, you underestimate your own country and worship china. Not surprising.

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    • Avicenna
      Avicenna
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      He‘s a Marxist, so it’s no surprise. He’s also a Jew who supports Hamas, so he’s used to being a traitor.

      Reply
    • DrPepper12
      DrPepper12
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      Chag pesach sameach!!

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    Nobody.

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  • EmmiL
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    Xper 5 Age: 28
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    China

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  • Anonymous
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    China 💛❤️✌️

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