US NIC has UNANIMOUSLY concluded that "Venezuela is NOT directing a war against USA via the gang Tren de Aqua"? What should Congress/SCOTUS do now?

[DrPepper12]

The (NIC) National Intelligence Council, drawing on the assessment of the 18 US intelligence agencies, determined in a secret assessment early this month that the Venezuelan government is not directing an invasion of the United States by the prison gang Tren de Aragua, a judgment that contradicts President Donald Trump’s public statements, according to people familiar with the matter.

The determination is the most comprehensive assessment to date undercutting Trump’s rationale for deporting suspected gang members without due process under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act.

Trump invoked the act in mid-March, proclaiming without evidence that Tren de Aragua is perpetrating an “invasion” of the United States “at the direction” of the regime of Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro. Under the Act, the government sent planeloads of alleged gang members to El Salvador’s notorious megaprison despite a judge’s order to turn the planes around & afford the detainees an opportunity to challenge their removal.

The U. S. Intelligence Community (IC) is comprised of the following 18 agencies:

Office of Director of National Intelligence (ODNI)

Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)

National Security Agency (NSA)

Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)

National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA)

National Reconnaissance Office (NRO)

Department of State

Department of Energy

Department of Justice (FBI)

Department of Homeland Security

Department of Treasury

Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA)

U. S. Army Intelligence and Security Command

Air Force Intelligence

Naval Intelligence

Marine Corps Intelligence Activity (MCIA)

Coast Guard Intelligence

United States Space Force

The Alien Enemies Act empowers the executive branch to summarily remove foreigners whose home country is at war with the US or waging a “predatory incursion” into U. S. territory. Almost all legal experts believe it requires that the invasion / incursion be linked to the actions of a foreign government.

[Dargil]

Houthi's are not directed by a single nation but has their own identity. Tren de Aqua is centered in Venezuela and has the capacity to restrain them. President Trump may not have the details correct but he has the essence of the issue correct. Just like Mexico who has always been able to stop the flood of illegal aliens coming across the border in the United States but did not.

[DrPepper12]

"may not have the details correct" with people's life & liberty. Disgusting 🤢

[Dargil]

Don't say that about yourself it's sad.

[Still-alive]

Stop this fascist regime from continuing any further of course

[Still-alive]

Lol that seeyounexttuesday is totally gung ho for another Holocaust it seems smh

[Avicenna]

I notice that you didn’t cite a source that backed up your claims about this „secret assessments“.

Are you claiming that the Venezuelan government and the gang don’t want its members to illegally enter the US? And why do you support keeping members of this violent gang, who have entered the US illegally with the assistance of the Buden Administration, in the US?

[DrPepper12]

Process. Due process.

The allegations are IRRELEVANT. Everyone gets their day in court.

[Avicenna]

This idea that illegals have the same rights as criminal defendants is utter BS and has no basis in law. Unsurprisingly, you don’t back up your claims with any sources.

You also don’t get to scream due process for illegals. It’s an obvious attempt to keep anyone who enters illegally.

[DrPepper12]

Yes. Black letter law, constitutional law, SCOTUS precedent is obvious. Anyone in USA jurisdiction gets due process.

Due process of law, as guaranteed by the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments of the U. S. Constitution, applies to all persons, including both natural persons (individuals) and legal persons (like corporations) within the United States, regardless of their citizenship status or whether their presence is lawful, unlawful, temporary, or permanent. This protection ensures that the government cannot deprive anyone of life, liberty, or property without following fair procedures and providing a fair process.
Elaboration:
Natural Persons:
This includes all individuals, regardless of their citizenship or immigration status.
Legal Persons:
The Due Process Clause also extends to corporations and other legal entities, meaning they cannot be deprived of their property without due process, according to the Constitution Annotated.
"Person" in the Constitution:
The term "person" in the Due Process Clause is interpreted broadly to include individuals and entities, ensuring protection for all who are within the jurisdiction of the United States.
Immigration Status:
The Due Process Clause applies to both U. S. citizens and non-citizens within the country, even if their presence is unlawful, according to the Constitution Annotated.
Limits at Entry:
While non-citizens at the point of entry (e. g., at a port or airport) are not protected by the Due Process Clause while technically still on U. S. soil, they do receive protection once they are considered to have entered the country.

[exitseven]

So all those people taking over that apartment building in Colorado was just an optical illusion. President Trump does not need anybody;s permission to declare a group to be terrorists.
What people should really be asking is why are democrats trying so hard to get more criminals in this country? 20 million isn't enough?

[DrPepper12]

No. They're just not at war under Venezuela direction.
Yes he does if using that law
They're not
It was 13 million yesterday. What happened overnight?

[exitseven]

13 million that we know of, There is sure to be a lot of gotaways. It might be as much as 25 milion. Thr truth is, nobody knows for sure.

[DrPepper12]

13 million what? Gang members or Venezuelan? Either way you're wrong!

[exitseven]

13 million people who have entered the country illegally.

[oldpigg]

Water train 😂😂😂😂 the guy who posted that doesn't even know the correct name of that criminal organization, he doesn't know about geopolitics.

[DrPepper12]

Agreed. Trump's DNI doesn't know 💩

[OldBlu]

I bet sheriff Joe arpaio could figure this dilemma out

[DrPepper12]

A disgraced criminal. Great choice!!

[OldBlu]

Thanks

[AviatorTom]

And your point is?

[DrPepper12]

His fig leaf cover for using the law is denied by 18 of his own executive branch intelligence agencies? It's a ruse for rubes

[AviatorTom]

@DrPepper12 He had to come up with a legal theory to support thedeportations, which is one if his promises during the campaign. We have to give creative credit to his legal team to come up with a 200 year old law that at least sounds reasonable. We'll have to see if it hold up over time.

I have a feeling that the administration really wouldn't mind being stopped, so long as it's after they've gotten the majority of the illegal serious criminals out of the country.

[DrPepper12]

Life & liberty but just "come up with", "sounds reasonable" "we'll see". DO YOU HEAR YOURSELF?

[chrissykerdock]

they should drop atomic bombs and on iran

[DrPepper12]

A fool with a death wish. Not a good look for you

[seeyounexttuesday]

Time to ramp up the deportations.

[DrPepper12]

MAGA first...

[seeyounexttuesday]

We are not illegal immigrants. But you tried.

[DrPepper12]

Criminals. MAGA criminals who had due process

[seeyounexttuesday]

No matter how much stupid shit you try, the majority of the country wants all illegals deported. So you’re on the wrong side of history. Go outside and touch grass.

[DrPepper12]

No. They want all illegal criminals deported. It gets complicated after that

[seeyounexttuesday]

No. All illegals.

[DrPepper12]

4 in 5 don't want citizen kids parents deported.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Sucks being them.