Yearly car registration is a scam? ?

[Anonymous]

Then they attempt to gaslight us that it’s a “tax” that’s “needed” to fix the “roads” when they tax the shit out of everything else they have way more than enough to fix the roads plus multiple other things.

it really just is a scam. What do you guys think?

It is a scam that we will never get rid

It’s is a scam and eventually someone will abolish this nonsense

It’s not a scam, I want to be gaslighted that it is “necessary” baaa 🐑

[Danny_dan92]

Just another way for the state to get money from the people

[jahaims]

Most ways the government extracts money is a scam

[abc3643]

It's not a scam. In fact, it's warranted.
Look, think about like this...
Government needs to pay for a lot of things associated with operating the roads including both road creation and maintenance (paving, repair, snow plowing, etc.). Now, that could be paid for by general taxation such as income taxes or sales taxes, but then those taxes would go up so much more... and EVERYBODY pays those taxes. (*) But, with motor vehicle registration fees, the people who are paying for the roads are the people who are using the roads. The reality is something of a mix, but those who drive are those who are paying more for the roads that they drive on.

(*) Here's a different sort of example... With my taxes, part of my taxation goes toward paying for public schools. Yet, I have no children. That's not fair, is it? I get nothing from paying for schools (in principle). If, instead, we had a student registation fee that parents had to pay, then it's the parents who are paying for schools. Then childless people like me save money by not being taxed for it. So, why isn't it that way? Because an educated populace benefits all of us, so I DO get benefit from our public schools despite being childless.

But, back to roads, roads benefit us all - even those who don't drive so we all pay for them to some extent, but those who use roads pay a little more through the registration fees for their vehicles, tolls for bridges and toll roads, and sales taxes on fuel (gasoline/petrol and diesel fuel). And, note, the bigger your vehicle, the more of a registration fee you pay. Why? The larger vehicles weigh more and thus are harder on roads.

[Anonymous]

Imagine doing that and having to pay a yearly tax... just for owning the car!! That's right... an ownership tax! That's my state!

You should register it once and you are done! But govt wants $ from us on a recurring basis.

Be glad they don't send armed guards to your house to collect it, they just threaten to take your stuff if you don't. Good luck undoing this BS. Maybe it's possible if get creative. What the govt does is create jobs to keep money flowing, and this is one way to do so.

maybe some day robots will replace it all so we don't have to work so much or pay so much... just pay $ to keep the batteries of robots charged and maintain the robots. Then we can all vacation 50% of the time!

[exitseven]

Where I live there is an annual excise tax. It goes to the cities and towns so at least most of it is used for real projects. The real scam in the annual inspections. Just check the tires and the lights, beep the horn and you are done. The emissions test and all the other BS they do is a rip off.

[Syntosi]

Victim complex much? If you register a car then that presumably means you use that care and road maintenance costs around 30 billion dollar each year in USA and that is with such low maintenance that 8% of all bridges is "structurally deficient" and like 50% of bridges is over 50 years old.

If anything there needs to be a drastic increase in road maintenance and I think the people who use the roads, aka people who owns cars, should pay for it. But I guess you dont like to hear this because you are entitled or think the world is a giant conspiracy against you in particular.

[Asker]

Do you know how much money is put into useless projects that we don’t even need and how much money is sent to other countries for supposed “help” and “aid”? Along with a bunch of other crap like making fishes gay and such,

The way we are taxed by everything and how much we are tax, we’d have more than enough with a lot to spare if they actually used the full about to what it’s supposed to be for, but instead we always result to have all this extra money for other retarded shit and to give for others to bomb themselves but yet we don’t have enough to fix all our roads considering everyone is forced to pay this ridiculous mandatory yearly registration and that’s just cars alone.

You’re part of the problem if you are too stupid to see how this all works.

Yeah “for the roads” go throw that bone to another dog. If it was actually used entirely for what they gaslight us it’s supposedly for, as I said, we’d have the best roads. Instead, they only fix those in richer areas and duck the poor and middle class, cause they will not choose to give you as good looking roads as the other ri er people because you’re not worth it. If you’re on this website you’re likely middle class or below it. Way below it.

[Syntosi]

First of all, I dont care. Secondly, I dont trust you to know what is a "useless project" and what is not useless. And thirdly, USA is a super power and money is a tool for controlling the world. I would be more worried if USA did NOT send money to other countries for supposed "help" and "aid". That is literally how you stay on top.

I also laugh at the idea that "USA has the best roads".. Like what are you smoking? American infrastructure is in a terrible condition and is in desperate need for a complete replacement. Even if you want to argue for cutting other areas (ignoring the fact that most areas of government funding is chronically underfunded if its not the military) you would still need to double if not triple the infrastructure. As in ALL OF IT. That road over there? It needs to be rebuilt and we need two more roads like it that did not exist before.

Its becoming clear to me that you have no idea what you are talking about and yet you have formed strong irrational feelings about it. You are the problem.

[midnightmoon05]

Asker… you live in the US? Not happy… you can leave. Maybe you will be happier say in Europe? They pay 50% tax plus more!!
Most in the US do not appreciate the US

[Asker]

@midnightmoon05 these two retards must be leftists conformists swallowing the propaganda and craving and begging for more. Disgusting pathetic mentality. People like You are the reason they are able to get away with scamming the people.

[midnightmoon05]

You haven’t live else where?
We are lucky to not have to pay more.
Americans are super spoiled.
Here, we have choices. Lots of choices.
Cars are cheaper than other places, gas cheaper, tax cheaper.
Public transportation plentiful. Cheap goods, cheap eats.
I live America. I am happy paying my share.

[midnightmoon05]

I love America.

[OneViewpoint]

Damn conservative brains are stooooopid!

No car registrations are not a scam. It costs X dollars for road bridge construction and maintenance. That could be levied as a higher income tax. And everyone would pay for it. The peanut butter approach for simple brains.

But most (all) states in the US choose to do that as a separate "registration fee" on a vehicle by vehicle basis. Why is that a better option for Joe Average? Because Joe average may pay $200 to register his 4,000 lb family sedan. A contractor may pay $500 to register his 20,000 lb commercial dump truck. And a big rig operator may pay $750 to register his 40,000 lb big rig. Basically it's putting the economic burden on the vehicles that create the most wear and tear on the infrastructure. It's more "fair".

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

[Asker]

And those numbers are as absurd as your comment. Commercial vehicles pay more than 2k.

But considering the retarded yea you spelled stupid proves how stupid you are indeed.

[DrPepper12]

Depends on your state tbh. California is INSANE but here in NY it's $140 for two years and I'm good with that.

I'd prefer income tax revenue over user fees as a revenue generator but I get it.

Now let's do guns...

[Shiprex]

It's a confirmation that the vehicle you're driving is in good working order not a scam but a way to ensure at least the vehicle is not dangerous for most people using the roads.

[midnightmoon05]

No.
Here we also pay additional tax for cars yearly.

[Asker]

It doesn’t make it any less of a scam.

[AviatorTom]

It's not a scam. It's a money-maker for the government. And it does have some secondary aspects that affect vehicle safety.

[seeyounexttuesday]

All taxes are theft.

[Asker]

This one ☝️ should have been best answer. I just saw it. You are correct.
And there are too many brainwashed people here happily defending the theft and gladly paying for it when most of them are likely below medium class. Absurdly ridiculous.

[Dargil]

It's a road tax method.