Is being against legal abortion misogynistic?

[Anonymous]

Yes it is

No it isn't

[Kaneki05]

Your aganist a woman's right so yes... Which is what some don't get.

It's okay for you to think abortion is a bad thing, but to say a woman can't have a medical operation done on herself if she so wishes is fundamentally aganist her rights.

There is some people who think a fetus should have rights but that makes little sense even more so over the actual living person, who's fully aware and in state of mind. It's an argument shrugs don't change the fact that you would still be opposing a women's right.

[WhiteThought]

I'm believe women shouldn't have the right to vote. I am against abortion. I am not a misogynist.

[SmokinAces2000]

@WhiteThought You are…..

[WhiteThought]

@SmokinAces2000 why?

[SmokinAces2000]

@WhiteThought you tell me

[WhiteThought]

@SmokinAces2000 You want to explain for you why you think I'm a misogynist?

[SmokinAces2000]

What’s your definition of misogyny?

[WhiteThought]

@SmokinAces2000 Hatred of, aversion to, or prejudice against women.

[SmokinAces2000]

And you have prejudice against women if you believe they shouldn’t be able to vote.

[WhiteThought]

@SmokinAces2000 Then you don't know what prejudice means

[Kaneki05]

@WhiteThought You are bias in the fact that woman shouldn't vote while guys can.
So yes prejudice against women...

Go away troll lol

[WhiteThought]

Where is the prejudice. I just said women should not vote. That is a statement, with no context to indicate bias or prejudice. I'm not a troll, so don't tuck your tail between your legs now. If you're going to accuse someone of something, explain yourself.

[Kaneki05]

@WhiteThought That is a statement is bias. It is specified to women.
So well done. You are ethier too dumb to get this or a troll take your pick.

[WhiteThought]

The definition of bias is not specifying a person, object, or idea. I pick you being prejudice, with prejudice being irrational judgement towards an individual, an opinion formed without sufficient knowledge, or a preconceived judgement. Take your pick. I'd say you're a troll, because you make several accusations, deflecting, using circular reasoning, and then ducking like the coward you are. Well done. Either way, you're a dumbass.

[Kaneki05]

@WhiteThought funnily enough the troll is not one who makes an sound opinion, it's the one who replies with something completely illogical and keeps on that point.

It's by definition bias saying that towards women go figure it out.
To say it's not is insane. Guess it's not bias if I say we should kill all dogs but not cats...
Or we should not let men drink alcohol but women can.

It's a literal bias to one over the other based on prejudice but good to know you can't see that lol

[WhiteThought]

Just because you aren't smart enough, or informed enough, to figure it out, doesn't make it illogical. After all, I have my reasons as to why I believe women shouldn't vote, and you have performed no internal critique to deem it illogical. That's because you don't care. You jumped to accusations immediately, gave some fallacious argument, and began applying words incorrectly. The definition of bias you are trying to use is prejudice, in which case, that only applies to you. The definition you should be using is a person and/or unreasoned judgment, which of course this isn't. You just don't care what the reason is. Good to know you still can't apply words correctly.

[Kaneki05]

@WhiteThought Imagine thinking if you have a reason that don't make you bias...
Do you know what bias means?

My grandma is racist and she has reasons behind why don't make her no longer racist? Lmao

You can have a reason to think something and be wrong, and even shockingly be bias lol

Otherwise by your logic nothing is bias longs if you have a reason to think what you think. Many racists, sexists all have reasons... So just nobody is bias cool.

In your mind it's not bias for a white dude to say black people shouldn't vote... For a dude to say women shouldn't vote...
Or just anything that is clearly bias.

[SmokinAces2000]

@WhiteThouht you’re a misogynist just accept it. The fact that you’re denying it shows that you know it’s wrong.

[WhiteThought]

@SmokinAces2000 I'm not a misogynist. I defined misogyny for you, and you have to to explain how anything I said is misogynistic. You just said I'm being prejudice, but in order for something to be prejudice, there has to be some preconceived opinion, or one formed without sufficient knowledge, or just grounds. You have NO idea why I believe what I believe. You don't care. That actually makes YOU prejudice. Because you are forming an irrational opinion without sufficient knowledge or just grounds. I'm just a misogynist because I just am.

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[WhiteThought]

You're not too good at ready either, I see.

If you are applying bias to racism, that would fall under unreasoned judgement, which could also just mean prejudice, which is exactly what racism is, so false equivalence.

Indeed, you can have a reason for what you think and still be biased, but something isn't biased automatically because there is a possibility that it may be biased. That makes zero sense.

That's a strawman argument. I

Let me use your logic. You are prejudice. I'm not going to ask why you believe what you believe. You're just prejudice because I think that even if I knew what those reasons are, you could still be prejudice, and therefore you are.

Race has nothing to do with voting. Men and women both belong to a variety of races.

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[Kaneki05]

@WhiteThought sexism and racism are both as bad as each other so no... Not a false argument they both equal in being bias, and it's a perfect analogy for each other not at all a false equivalence.

Both women and people of color were not allowed to vote for the both prejudice reasons. But ya know you would know this if you ever learnt history though you don't know words nvm history.

[WhiteThought]

No, it is not misogynistic. That would mean you have some hatred, or prejudice, towards women. I'm against abortion, and I'm not a misogynist.

The two things aren't mutually exclusive though. You can by a misogynist and be against abortion, but it isn't automatically true just because you don't support it.

[4ngelic]

depends why you're against abortion. some reasons are misogynistic, some aren't.

[MzAsh]

It means you lack the proper respect for women’s choices.

[David318578]

What if the child aborted was female? Wouldn't that be taking away a lifetime of choices from the future woman?

I'm not really anti abortion but some of the arguments are completely illogical, on both sides of the debate.

[DrPepper12]

Yes. It's a woman's decision entirely. Don't have HER vagina? STFU!!

[OneViewpoint]

You can be against abortion. On moral grounds. Or just because. It becomes misogynistic when your beliefs supercede a woman's right to choose what happens with her body and her life. Think whatever you want. Believe whatever you want. You don't get to make life decisions for everyone else based on some magic invisible sky fairy and a book of lies you chose to believe in.

[SmokinAces2000]

It makes you a dickhead that doesn’t think people should have a say in something affects their mind, body, and life.

[NaultD]

It's never been about what something is by always about why.

[NaultD]

Should a child raped by an elderly man have The child?

[Anonymous]

Just curious... does this mean you are for illegal abortion then?

[Anonymous]

I don’t consider it misogynistic to be against murder no

[seeyounexttuesday]

No. It's rational.

[Anonymous]

It's uneducated.