Americans: At what point do you pull the plug on money spent on the Ukrainian war?

[kavakava]

1 trillion? 2 trillion? 10 trillion? We have a horrific homeless problem in America that needs to be dealt with. We have crumbling infrastructure that needs to be dealt with. We need some basic health care for all legal American citizens. I don't see how any of that can be achieved as long as America is the ATM of the world. 11 million for producing the Middle Eastern version of sesame street?
31 million for supporting the transition to clean energy with energy supplies in Europe and Eurasia
35 million for funding positive youth experience in Gaza.
$12 million for promoting worker empowerment in South America.

The list goes on and on. So we've spent around $200 billion dollars in Ukraine. How much more should we spend?

[mike5150]

Whenever most people see suffering there is usually some asshole seeing it as a money-making opportunity. End the flood gate of money and watch Raytheon and Lockheed Martin throw a shit fit. They're bankrupting our future and costing lives.

[Dongie]

They need to be asking for it back!

[kavakava]

Absolutely

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

• "We have a horrific homeless problem"
• "We need some basic health care for all legal American citizens"
• "We have crumbling infrastructure that needs to be dealt with"

I'm pleased to see that there is still some socialist philosophy in USA, that's unexpectedly cool. I thought you guys went all-in on free market. However, you're probably too much of a socialist, compared to many of your fellow citizens. I heard that socialist policies aren't much welcome in the lands of glorified individualism. Maybe I'm wrong?

[kavakava]

We have free healthcare in America it's called the emergency room

That's very expensive so we need something better.. I'm glad you understand and you're now going to take care of ukraine.

[Avicenna]

And given how corrupt Ukraine is, as well as the fact that we have been paying Ukraine's entire government budget for at least the past two years, it is more than reasonable to ask where the exit ramp is.

Problem is, the EU most likely negotiated continuing help for Ukraine as part of the trade agreement they recently assented to.

[kavakava]

Let the EU have it.

[Avicenna]

Well, yeah, there’s no US national interest there, but the EU has do denuded its military and intelligence capabilities that it can’t prop up corrupt Ukraine by itself.

[exitseven]

After this last effort in 10 days if nothing gets resolved President Trump needs to walk away.

[kavakava]

It's like giving CPR to someone lying on the ground. At some point you have to accept that it's time to move on. You gave it your best shot and it didn't work. I agree with you.

[slatyb]

We wasted $20 trillion in the middle east, this is nothing.

[kavakava]

7 trillion. But you were close.

[slatyb]

I'll try to find a link to the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. They cost a lot more than the materiel we are sending to Ukraine.

[kavakava]

Thanks. Maybe it was 20 trillion dollars?

[Snakeyes7]

Pull out now and let the two of them fight. They clearly do not want peace so I don't think there is any point in get ourselves involved anymore.

[kavakava]

The same with Israel. If the Palestinians were winning they wouldn't want a ceacefire. When the Palestinians are losing, they want a ceasefire. Zelensky publicly admitted that a lot of the money we sent over there disappeared with the oligarchs. And I don't know if it's true or not, but I've heard these oligarchs are using your tax dollars to put swimming pools in their backyards and going on lavish vacations. So much for the soldiers..

[Snakeyes7]

I agree. The Iran part was understandable because they were directly threatening the US, but other than that, we shouldn't be involved.

[kavakava]

I am getting a bit nervous the Trump is having to move to nuclear subs closer to Russia. From what I understand, Trump is threatening major sanctions on Russia if they don't end the war. And I guess Putin's response was talking about a nuclear war. I think if it gets that close, the Russians will kill Putin. Nobody wins with nuclear annihilation.

[Snakeyes7]

I agree. I think Trump should call this one a loss. This will only make it worse.

[Twalli]

Since even before the war in Gaza and Ukraine, the $ wasn't going to fix those problems, I failed to see why you think it'll be different this time.

[kavakava]

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Twalli]

"We have a horrific homeless problem in America that needs to be dealt with. We have crumbling infrastructure that needs to be dealt with. We need some basic health care for all legal American citizens."
We had these before we were sending money to the wars in Gaza and Ukraine. So, conceivably we had that $ here at that time. Thst $ was not allocated to redress the problems, so keeping thst money here is not likely going to be used to fix the problems.

[kavakava]

Did we have the money or did we just print it?

[Twalli]

Printing more money devalues the currency, so we had the value of it, even if the physical $ was less.

[kavakava]

Ya think?

[Twalli]

You asked if we had it or printed more. Printing more would not work. So we obviously didn't do that.

[kavakava]

Sure

[jahaims]

It's not up to the people lol. The government does what it wants

[kavakava]

And what do you want?

[FunkyMonkee]

It should've NEVER STARTED!!!

[kavakava]

Agreed

[DonaldDarko]

0, I'd give it to Putin.

[seeyounexttuesday]

immediately.

[kavakava]

😂😂😂

I think the Ukrainian war is the second biggest scam of our lifetime. The first biggest scam was when Dr fauci said the virus had to have come from a cave and not from the lab he was secretly funding. The left ate that shit up with a spoon.

[seeyounexttuesday]

bingo. There's still idiots thinking a chinese dude fucking a pangolin gave us covid.

[kavakava]

I never bought into the pangolin theory, cuz they're just ain't enough lipstick in the world to make an artichoke look hot

[seeyounexttuesday]

Covid was an obedience test, and the left passed with flying colors. And they've continued their idiocy.

[kavakava]

If I remember correctly, I believe a windsurfer was arrested for not having a mask on. And a lone fisherman on the beach. And what was amazing is that this obedience test was worldwide. So I don't know why people think there is no globalists.

[slatyb]

In my lifetime it was WMDs in Iraq and the hopeless effort in Afghanistan.