Upon a cease fire what should USA / NATO / EU follow up be?

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MisterWack · Accepted Answer

Ukraine deserves a seat at the table via NATO and EU.

The fact is, Putin has invaded and taken land before which started with Crimea.

Then, we had Putin trying to take over all Ukraine Territory with an unprovoked attack.

If we don’t stop this Russian aggression test of power, we will see Ukraine fall then Russia move onto Poland , Germany , France , and every other country in a similar spineless political event known as “appeasement”.

America needs to remember who they are. We are the people of “The Marshall Plan” , Atomic Bomb (s) , and Fascist & Communist Haters who don’t stand idly by while our allies get decimated. We kicked Imperialist Japan’s forces in The Pacific and kicked Nazi Ass in Europe so it is time to show our might against Russia before it is too late.

China, North Korea, and Russia are currently in a pact together and this ally thing going on will bite us in the ass for a possible world wide conflict. Once that happens, by not standing and reinforcing our European allies today we lose the larger conflict tomorrow.

Lliam · Accepted Answer

There won't be a cease fire. Russia learned its lesson when it agreed to the Minsk II accord. It turned out to be a scam. Even Angla Merkel admitted that its only purpose was to buy time for Ukraine to rearm.

The only solution is a peace agreement. Russia has certain terms that are non-negotiable and there's nothing anyone can do about it.

If you are interested in actual facts and analysis instead of western media blather, here is a wonderful hour long interview with former CIA analyst Larry Johnson. I just finished watching it. Yeah, knowledge requires an investment which few people are willing to sacrifice.

I already knew this stuff, but I just ran across Larry Johnson and am really impressed.
When he echoed my current understanding, I knew I was on the right track.

https://sonar21.com/trumps-gambit-to-weaken-brics-backfires-is-he-still-trying-to-woo-russia-in-a-bid-to-defeat-china/?jetpack_skip_subscription_popup

FreyaRed · Accepted Answer

Security guarantees are like love promises of someone who cheated on you dozens of time. Ukraine is a failed state and will be swallowed by Russia if Ukrainian elites don' t learn that stealing money from budget is like stealing their legitimization to sovereignty.
People need to believe in future of a country and this country needs a deter potential for external treats. Both cost money and effort to rule a country in a prosperous way. Ukrainian elites proved they aren't capable to provide both security and prosperity.
In my opinion defending actively Ukraine is asking for troubles. Even countries like US, UK and France who have economic interest in Ukraine won't sacrifice their soldiers and equitation for those interest aren't worth cost of a full scale conflict. Countries who see Ukraine as buffer state won't participate in active defense anyway.
Who also will defend Ukraine when Russian Bear mends in 5-10 years its wounds and attack a weak prey again?

dustybiker2 · Accepted Answer

Weak Putin thumped Trump has made it abundantly clear where he stands. He doesn't think a cease fire is necessary... •snort•

As long as Russia has America backing them, every time Trump opens his mouth Ukraine will get bombed double time.

Pohjolan · Answer

Rebuilding and rearming of Ukraine. Humanitarian EOD mission by NATO. Ukraine gradually introduced into EU. Sanctions kept in place on Russia and weapons smuggled to partisans resisting the tyranny.

Anonymous · Answer

Sit on the sidelines and mind their own damn business instead of getting involved and funding and pushing Ukraine to continue fighting a failed proxy war we provoked and they cannot win. How many Ukrainians have to die before people stop and think maybe this proxy war to benefit defense contractors wasn't such a good idea.

Miristheiss · Answer

3.5 years. Over 1 million casualties. They haven't gotten any of their territory back. I mean, if they want to go for 5-6 years, more deaths to see if they'll suddenly expel Russia, they are free.

exitseven · Answer

I like the idea that once there is peace, the US develops the rare earth deposits and natural gas in Ukraine. They will continue to have a presence there and make some money at the same time.

seeyounexttuesday · Answer

Ukraine does not have a way to win this war unless they agree to some concessions. I don't know why this is so hard for you folks to understand.

Dongie · Answer

Locking and auditing Zelenskys crooked ass then war crimes tribunal take over.

qwerty2469 · Answer

Upon Ceasfire USA walks away with 1 trillion worth of Ukrains resources

robocop666 · Answer

there will never be a ceasefire. Ukraine is history.

frysauce · Answer

Gifted? Either that or keep fighting alone.

Anonymous · Answer

EU  Nazis United

ilistengood · Answer

Disbelief

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